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Monday, March 31, 2014

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You guys can go fvckyourself

Seriously- with a rusty base peg just jam it up your ass and fvck yourselves.

Could be worse. We've got a full 140 minutes to game time, at least. No new game threads starting mid-game.

You can tell where my bar is set.

Wiznewski: "the Rangers' lineup could beat up on Lee if he doesn't have his best stuff. It's the scary kind of lineup that can instill fear in a pitcher"

Choo, Fielder, Beltre are the only 3 hitter worth a damn in that lineup. They're definitely great hitters, but thats hardly scary.

Choo is actually pretty terrible against lefties.

That .612 OPS (.605 in 2012, .680 career) vs. LHP in 2013 is only being held up on the strength of his .347 OBP. Considering how often Cliff gives out walks, his .215 BA (.199 in 2012, .243 career) is far more relevant.

He'll be more troublesome vs. Burnett and KK.

This article was atrocious. Poor spelling, heinous grammar, etc. The only positive is that there aren't multiple pages of comments to click through before I get to the most recent posts.

There are only two words that need be said on opening day:

GO PHILLIES!

buster: good point, didn't even think of that.

So the Phillies are playing 2 CF's and eschewing the whole of left field? Sandberg wasn't kidding about using shifts I guess.

The Phillies have 3 CF-caliber defenders out there today (Revere probably lacking the arm to be great there, but still able to track stuff down, and looked better running routes in ST than last year).

Of course, I seem to recall it being pretty hard to climb the wall in Arlington, so HRs will probably not get robbed.

Can hardly blame Sandberg for wanting to postpone the Dom experience in LF. Remember he had him in LV too.

Also makes him less likely to dive for a ball he should have been able to jog to and concuss himself on opening day.

Additionally, it's traditionally the 3B coach who sets up defensive alignments (meaning we probably saw last year what the players will be doing this year).
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If the 3B coach is setting up the D aligments, then we shouldn't see more of the same this year because Sandberg is not the 3B coach anymore.

I predict Mr. Ben Revere will make a spectacular catch.

"just Game 1 to be followed by 161 more"

With an opening like this, I was half expecting to see a recital of Casey At The Bat.

Jake: Sure, but that was a response to the initial comment

Here is a short list of things the Phillies will do better under Ryne Sandberg:

....
--align their defense
....

Basically, any small thing that can be done better, they'll do better.

The implication being (I'd assumed) that Sandberg was better than Manuel at those aspects (based on the first line).

I was just pointing out that Sandberg's would-be control of the defensive alignment is something we've already seen... And it's literally the same as last year's.

I like that Gwynn is playing LF with Dom DHing...if you're gonna play Gwynn, you might as well use him where you get the most benefit.

A shame Ruf is hurt though as he'd be a far superior DH today.

Couldn't any team beat up on a pitcher if they don't have their best stuff?

That's like saying: I won't get wet, unless it rains.

My assessment of the improved "little things" comes from the clear emphasis on them during the spring. And Manuel's tactical ineptitude. Manuel never mastered basic baseball strategy, or cared sufficiently about the game's nuances. Sandberg apparently has, and does.

Why is that so hard to admit?

There is a to-do list!

"Well then I guess there's only one thing left to do....win the whole f'in thing."


Or at least win a few more that last year.

A new thread every 4 days! Whohoo!

Absolutely right that the team needs to take advantage of good Cliff Lee outings.

Here's hoping for some timely hitting, good defense (optimistic about that with those OFs), and a capable BP to back Lee up.

Go Phillies!

it's on. BL vs TGP. let's see what kind of game thread each produces for opening day. so far BL leads, since TGP doesn't even have one yet. hehe. so far not a peep over there since lorecore at 11:30 on the "won't get fooled again" thread.

Ten Phillies Predictions:

1. Phillies start off decently but its hit or miss all year as they hover around .500 all season...final record 80-82.

2. Utley plays 130 games and is productive during them. He has 2 DL stints for issues unrelated to his knees.

3. Ryan Howard hits 27 HRs in 118 games but battles minor leg issues all season leading to at least 2 separate DL trips.

4. Rollins bounces back and has a good year for him.

5. Dom Brown shows that May 2013 was just a good month and struggles with a .700-.750 OPS and poor defense all year long.

6. Hamels deals with minor arm issues all year: 180 IP, 14 wins

7. Papelbon goes on the DL by early June and we never see him again.

8. Attendance and tv ratings both plummet dramatically. Rube is fired the day after the World Series ends.

9. Kyle Kendrick starts off strong and gets a 3 year/$35 million extension by the AS break...which is promptly lambasted by the fanbase. He collapses in the 2nd half again and everyone bemoans his albatross contract.

10. Darin Ruf is traded for a middle reliever in early July and he promptly hits 20 HRs with a .900 OPS down the stretch for his new team.

"If the Phillies are going to content..."

"Content", Mike W, "content"?

I thought that was what's lacking here at BL in terms of thread headers.


"If the Phillies are going to content..."

"Content", Mike W, "content"?

I thought that was what's lacking here at BL in terms of thread headers.

Posted by: awh™ | Monday, March 31, 2014 at 12:39 PM


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Phillies predictions:

69 wins and 4th place.

Amaro fired after the year.

Lee will be dealt at the deadline for a disappointing return, but that's the only big "sale" they make (other than maybe minor deals for Burnett or Byrd). Which is to say, Rollins, Utley, Papelbon, Hamels all stay Phillies.

A lot of guys miss time with "injuries" in the second half of the year that if the team were contending, they would play through.

For this season, there can be only one prediction:

Pain.

BL prediction:

We average a thread header every two games.

cut fastball will be back under an assumed name saying stupid things.

Jack will continue to be a joyless as$hole and even if the Phillies win 100 he will act as Randy Quaid in Major League 2.

Be gentle with the writers, guys,or our next thread header will be for the All Star break.

I say this with all sincerity:

Fvck the writers here

GO PHILLIES

84-78

The real BAP dropping by, just to reiterate that the last real post by me (until this one) was on March 25 at 10:32 a.m. EDT. Please disregard all future posts under my handle, as they are actually being posted by Phlipper/Reality.

If I feel the need to show up and say something, I trust that Beerleaguer veterans will be smart enough to figure out when it's really me & when it's Phlipper.

I agree bay but I would invite the fvcking to come right to me.

Ten Phillies Predictions:

1. Phillies start off decently but its hit or miss all year as they hover around .500 all season...final record 80-82.

2. Utley plays 130 games and is productive during them. He has 2 DL stints for issues unrelated to his knees.

3. Ryan Howard hits 27 HRs in 118 games but battles minor leg issues all season leading to at least 2 separate DL trips.

4. Rollins bounces back and has a good year for him.

5. Dom Brown shows that May 2013 was just a good month and struggles with a .700-.750 OPS and poor defense all year long.

6. Hamels deals with minor arm issues all year: 180 IP, 14 wins

7. Papelbon goes on the DL by early June and we never see him again.

8. Attendance and tv ratings both plummet dramatically. Rube is fired the day after the World Series ends.

9. Kyle Kendrick starts off strong and gets a 3 year/$35 million extension by the AS break...which is promptly lambasted by the fanbase. He collapses in the 2nd half again and everyone bemoans his albatross contract.

10. Darin Ruf is traded for a middle reliever in early July and he promptly hits 20 HRs with a .900 OPS down the stretch for his new team.


NEPP:

1. Disagree, they won't win more than 76.
2. Disagree, I think he'll play in 140. O/U is 139-1/2
3. Agree (sadly)
4. Disagree
5. Agree
6. Agree (that's why they won't win more than 76)
7. Neutral
8. Tough call, but you could be right
10. As Ruf will be one of the few pieces that actually have value to another team, and Albert Ross will be untradeable with his contract, Ruf will be the one to go. Agree.

Nice try fake bay_area_phan. What you said is exactly what someone lurking would say.

I am the real bay_area_phan. I am about to go out and chase my third ambulance of the day.

80-82 wins seems thoroughly out of reach. It'd be generous to describe 15 of their 25 as MLB players.

Poser

I don't know that we'll see an increase in the incidence of holding runners on. If we do, I would expect that to originate more from McClure than Sandberg.

Nothing we saw in ST should lead you to believe that the team will do a better job moving runners over. We saw maybe 2 sac bunts all Spring.

Throwing out baserunners will come almost universally from the catcher. Will Chooch be better than last year? Nieves better than Kratz? If the answer to those is "no," then they won't do that appreciably better.

An increase in base-stealing this year will likely be the result of having Revere for a full year, Rollins getting on-base more often (even his 3-year average indicates it's likely), Byrd replacing DYoung/Ruf, Asche replacing MYoung, and Gwynn replacing Mayberry as the first outfield sub.

I didn't watch every ST game, but I definitely don't remember Sandberg making LH/RH matchup substitutions. That said, who (other than Mayberry against a LHP) is currently on this roster that you would sub in to break up a handedness matchup?

We saw his defensive alignment last year - it's the very thing you're claiming he'll improve upon. If he's running it again this year I would not expect a noticeable change.

They may be more patient at the plate this year. That could be Sandberg's influence. So there's one I will grant you without contention (though I hardly think it's a lock to happen).

How many bunts did the Phillies throw down in ST? I remember Revere trying a few times but never succeeding. I remember that happening last year too.

a special hour-long pregame show on csn. woohoo.

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Thanks Phillibuster

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    Thanks guys. I really screwed the pooch here

ben davis would have been far superior to matt stairs. his voice projects well.

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you are a moroon

Sorry...moron

Jason, thanks for the memories and for a great site.

Anyone who wants to is free to join me at TGP.

Its not worth dealing with a loser troll anymore.

With the bench he has, how many LH/RH moves can we expect Sandberg (or any manager) to be making?

My Phillies prediction- they will win about 75-80 games. About half of their losses will be shutouts.

KK will be our #2 pitcher this year, Cole will struggle for the first half of the year and AJ will be a mediocrity.

Not even a game thread on TGP though...


Bubba: I'd say fewer shutouts. I also think they have an outside chance to hit 84-85 if everything breaks right, with higher numbers if more than one other NLE severely under-performs.

Tough to say about Cole, but I think we're pretty snakebit when it comes to pitchers not recovering as well as they're supposed to, so I can understand the sentiment.

I'd love it if KK took a step up, but I don't know if he can keep it going all year. I think Burnett posts an ERA in the vicinity of 3.85.

jimmy breaks conceptions record of 13 straight opening day line-up appearances for the same team.

> This article was atrocious.

You actually bother to read the articles anymore?

I nearly forgot to predict. I've been telling everyone, that this year's team is ten games worse than last year. I predict a 63-98 record.

Even the BL gods agree that there is no excitement this year, so why bother to even have daily thread headers as the season is ready to start. When it goes downhill, everything goes downhill including BL. Rube will be gone and we'll get some know nothing dodo who will put us through six years of fruitless rebuilding, only to get fired in five years, then the whole process repeats. Welcome to the fifties-sixties model redux.

The baby tried to ruin it

> A new thread every 4 days! Whohoo!

Beerleaguer is like trash pickup. It comes around on Mondays and Thursdays.

I'm not sure that's a game thread...

I don't see the incorrect lineup posted.

And now Philliedelphia puts up a Rollins post that trumps their game thread.

Man these blogs need to get it together. They had all of spring training to work on this stuff!

I predict Full Tilt for Mr. Lee today.

4-2 Phillies, Brown homers

Go Phillies! 92 wins baby!

Disclaimer: I am not in the prediction business. 92 wins is my hope, not my prediction. Fvck the Nats, Braves, and Mets. Go Phillies!!

I hope that's the real Jake and not a parody. Missed ya, buddy.

Go Phils.

Thanks for pointing out that atrocious typo, awh. It's been fixed.

Phils predictions:

4th place, 75-87

- Team has better stats overall but not much of an improvement in their overall record because they outpaced their expected win-loss record from last season.

- Clubhouse issues dog the team as the losing record doesn't sit well with veterans and Sandberg/coaching staff have notable issues with JRoll, Howard, and Papelbon at points this season.

- Lee is tired of the losing and forces the Phils' hands by getting moved at the trading deadline without Amaro getting a bluechip prospect in return.

- Papelbon's effectiveness continues to erode as he is now a closer who tops out at 91-92 MPH. Posts an ERA over 3.50 and at one point during the season there is serious consideration/short stint with Bastardo as the closer instead. Amaro futility tries to move Papelbon at the deadline yet again but can't find any takers.

- Bullpen is slightly better than last year but it is more simply due to the fact of how horrible some of the numbers were last year. Overall, it is around league average in most categories.

- Hernandez is a bust and posts an ERA near 5.00.

- KK slightly out pitches Burnett this year (at least based on traditional pitching stats such as ERA/wins)

- Hamels comes back but isn't Hamels has a down year & worst of his career.

- JRoll doesn't rebound much especially offensively, begins to losing some playing time to Galvis, becomes a flashpoint, and things get ugly as is agrees to a trade at the deadline.

- Chooch rebounds a bit offensively although it is more along the lines of '11 than his '10 or impressive '12 numbers

- Asche is a bust at 3B offensively & defensively and by August 1st, Franco is up with the team and is the starting 3B.

- Howard has a DL stints, plays 130-135 G, and hits 23 HRs. He has some moments but his days as a power hitter are behind him.

- Utley has a DL stint too and isn't quite able to match his numbers from last season although he is still a steady option.

- Byrd largely does what Amaro signed him to be although he doesn't hit >20 HRs in RF. Say .260-.270 with 17-18 HRs and steady defense in RF.

- Revere is also a steady presence in CF, starts 150+ G, and hits close to .300 although his defense is still shaky.

- Brown is a disappointment and not able to match his overall or power numbers from last year and has a DL stint due to a leg injury.

- Nearly constant roster churn all season on the bench and bullpen due to injuries and ineffectiveness. Phils don't use as many players as they did last year but get close.

- Ruf and Galvis come back this year but aren't generally meaningful contributors & Ruf isn't able to match his numbers from last year.

- Only Phils AS is Lee.

- Amaro is fired at the end of the offseason.

MG stated all winter Hernandez was a big upgrade over what they did with Lannan last year and now he predicts him to be as bad basically.

Classic MG. Always twisting.

If everything MG predicts comes true, 75 wins is impossible. That sounds like worst case scenario basically.

No need to go into detail with the prediction this year. I don't think anyone is buying that they are all staying healthy this year. If a miracle occurs and that happens, their ceiling is 85-88 wins- and that's assuming Burnett pitches as well as he did last year.

If things go wrong right out of the chute, it's more likely that the ceiling completely caves in (with Lee likely getting dealt) and they come close to losing 100 games.

I don't think there's much in between with the possibilities this year. Either you think God will touch the clubhouse and they'll make one last wheeze kids run, or they're as bad as they look on paper and they're 20 games out by July 1st. My bet is the latter. 63-99, last place.

Iceman - Possibly. Bullpen will be better this year simply due to reversion to mean. Lee will be very good, KK and Burnett will be solid starters, and the Phils will get better results from Hernandez & others compared to the horrendous results they got from Lannan/Halladay/Martin/Cloyd/Miner.

Offensively too they'll improve a bit simply because they were so bad last season.

ben davis predicts tony g jr as star of the game. i'd love to see him have a big year.

"Given Amaro stating the other day they weren't going to increase payroll from last season (and likely will end up with a lower one), they only had $10-$12M left to spend this offseason on other FAs.

They simply got priced out of signing anyone better unless they moved a salary.

Carmona is better than Lannan as long as his HR/FB isn't freakishly large. Appears to be a junkballer now who is sinker/changeup/slider almost exclusively now. Wonder if the Phils can get to him adopt a cutter in spring to bring a bit more diversity to his arsenal.

Certainly like Hernandez more than a guy like J. Williams and even Lanna last year. There was zero upside with Lannan. He got hurt and was crappy to boot.

At least there is some possibility Hernandez is tolerable as a .500 starter who can be competitive in most starts as long as he is pitching in a HR-friendly park.

Posted by: MG | Thursday, December 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM"

Phlipper posting nonsense as normal this time under bap's handle. He as much as anyone played a big role in diminishing the content & discussion here. Simply an a-hole.

Hey there's still a bunch of posters over at Good Phight saying things like "Go Phillies".

I assume the Beerleaguer faithful will take care of that.

Of course, there's always the caveat that they do stay healthy. It isn't impossible, and I'll be rooting for it all year long. But after the last two years, it's pretty obvious the toll that age has taken on this roster. When you're only counting on one or two older guys to channel their youth, that's one thing. When you're counting on half the roster to turn back the clock, the odds are ridiculously long.

I like some of the complementary pieces they have, but they're complementing guys that started declining almost three years ago.

Pink eye has cleared up. Fitted with a new monocle. Am ready for the season.

Go Phillies!

Iceman - Stark pointed out that no team in MLB history had 5 positional starters who were at least 34 or older on their Opening Day roster play at least 130+ G.

Yeah they might contend but I would be stunned. More a question if they can be competitive and hang around .500 or if they sink early on & things get ugly.

Here's how I know I missed Phillies baseball a lot.

I actually got chills from the cheesy P-H-I-L-L-I-E-S opening.

That's true, Iceman.

My hope is that defense s better in the OF and at 3B, that the young guys step it up with their bats and gloves while the older guys hold their own reasonably well, for health and luck and good pitching with just enough offense.

I don't expect better than 4th place, but I can hope for a WC berth.

Even though I'm expecting 95 losses, a win today is certainly doable if not probable, and a fast start would certainly make the long summer a bit shorter. Go Cliffie!

Revere slices a high-bouncer to first. Out by a mile.

Jimmy gets a bit under one, flies out to about 20 feet shy of the warning track.

MLB TV bleg - they seem to have updated the player and now the feed quality isn't manually adjustable. I'd like to reduce it from HD as my cruddy work computer doesn't have the stuff to display it smoothly. Anyone know how to do this? It looks to set the quality automatically instead of giving you a slider as the old version did.

A 1-2-3 inning from the Fightins. Phillies baseball is back!

Every Phillies hitter went 1-1 then put an out into play. Chase hit a tailing liner that the LF had to cover about 30 feet to field.

9 pitches for the new kid.

Did anybody else just have the entire season flash before their eyes?

Fumphis: I haven't run the "bandwidth test" yet, but it might allow you to set a quality threshold if they determine you're not pulling down fast enough.

Really though Chase's had a chance to get in the gap.

May it be their only 123 inning on offense for the rest of the day.

> A 1-2-3 inning from the Fightins. Phillies baseball is back!

When you're facing Tanner Scheppers, you've got your work cut out for you.

Commercial breaks seem shorter than I remember. I wonder if MLB is having a bit of a tough time with sponsors this year, or if they're just going short to start the season (and ST).

Cyclic: True. I had hope, but it hung up too much. Wind looks like it's going pretty hard there.

Me too, Cyclic. Opening day is one of the best days of the year. There is still hope, however cautious, and the best time of the year is starting. Play ball!

Asche almost screwed up a play at first - he wasn't fast enough to get it in time, but was fast enough that he'd have prevented Rollins from getting it cleanly (as it is, they threw out Andrus by a step).

Wow, Prince Fielder looks bigger in red.

Also, Cliff doesn't like to be shown up. Ends the top of the first in 11 pitches.

It boggles my mind how Fielder is a vegetarian and is that obese. He must literally eats pounds and pounds of carbs a week.

I could so see this game going like last night's in SD, with both starters doing well, Lee giving up a solo HR, only to have Papelbon or Bastardo blow it. Having Lee's starts foiled by our anemic offense and inept BP is certainly something we've witnessed before.

The thread headers are still hot, wet garbage, and many of the trollicious comments are extremely offensive and distracting, but the Beerleaguer typepad format is still the best for Game Thread commenting until someplace like Philliedelphia.com can get enough critical mass of commenters in real time. TGP just doesn't have the layout/format for real time game action for me.

BTW, no audio overlay option on mlb.tv. I"m stuck with TBag???

Nothing MG posted negates my complaint about what he said.

Pure and simply he is a babbling moron.

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