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I think Chooch is making a strong case to be resigned.

I always thought he should be resigned from the giddyup. Who else is there really?

Despite numerous statistical posts showing very little difference in success of draft picks 10 and 14, numerous posters in last thread say they're rooting for the team to lose so it can move up. As for losing a pick because of an FA signing, who's the FA signing that will convert this team into a contender next season?

When will rube remove tag from sandberg? With this slop he's gotta manage, and the production he's getting. Lets start the offseason by signing Ryan and chooch.if we can't get chooch then salty is the catcher I want. Still feel like rube is gonna make a trade this offseason. A package around ruf galvis kK or a minor pitcher.

Glad they're giving Cloyd the ball again. If he's got the heart of a champion, he will take advantage of the opportunity. They're definitely finding out about some of these younger players right now and winning about half their games while doing so. It's a good time to be a Phan.

"who's the FA signing that will convert this team into a contender next season"

SHIN-SOO CHOO .896 OPS

SHIN-SOO CHOO .422 OBP

SHIN-SOO CHOO 99 walks

SHIN-SOO CHOO 21 HR

Brian McCann and Chooch would make an excellent catching battery. Neither is good for a 140 games behind the plate, likely no more than a hundred. They both have platoon splits. Together the Phillies could get better production than Mauer gives the Twins.

Win the posting for Masahiro Tanaka, he's a stud. Sign Matt Garza too.

Those four make the Phillies a real contender and their payroll is no higher than the Dodgers.

As for losing a pick because of an FA signing, who's the FA signing that will convert this team into a contender next season?

clout is 100% correct.


Those four make the Phillies a real contender and their payroll is no higher than the Dodgers.

This is the funniest thing I've read all week. I've got nothing on comedy when it comes to this guy.

Pyrite:

Phils are now 16-12 since Sandberg took over as manager.

Aug (16 G): 60 Runs Scored, 75 Runs Allowed
Sept (12 G): 45 Runs Scored, 54 Runs Allowed

Under Sandberg (28 G):
3.75 R/G Runs Scored, 4.61 R/G Runs Allowed

Under Cholly (120 G):

3.80 R/G Runs Scored, 4.60 R/G Runs Allowed

New manager, same sh!tty team with the only difference being that the bullpen has pitched better and they have just been very lucky to win a ton of one-run games.

Clout - I think you're being just a teensy bit obtuse here. Nobody on this board thinks a free agent signing, or TWO free agent signings, or FOUR free agent signings (except for one moron) are going to make this team a contender.

What we're worried about is that Rube may think that a free agent signing will make this team a contender and will happily give up a relatively high draft pick in the bargain. Remember, this is the guy who couldn't wait one stinking week for Papelbon to waste his money.

Bernadina in CF, batting leadoff. Again. As I've said before, most of Sandberg's lineup construction experiments don't bother me. Rog is a major exception. He shouldn't even be on the bench, let alone starting, let alone leading off.

Also, Dom "Eggshells" Brown is back. LF, batting cleanup.

I just hope Bernadina is our sole 3013 Nat reject of the year, in the great tradition of Martinez and Lannan, and that Rube doesn't add another this winter.

"Nobody on this board thinks a free agent signing, or TWO free agent signings, or FOUR free agent signings (except for one moron) are going to make this team a contender."

Choo
McCann
Tanaka
Garza

What would the Phillies be with them?

Cliff Lee and Chase Utley aren't going anywhere. That ship has sailed and if they were Hamels would need to go too. That's a ten year rebuild.

What is your plan to reload the Phillies since a rebuild has been removed from that table of discussion by the Phillies themselves.

Exactly, @aksmith. This is a team that coughed up picks in the teens for Jon Lieber and Tom Gordon.

There is zero chance that a GM would ever put his own short-term employment over a team's long-term success by making desperation FA signings that sacrifice high draft picks. I can't think of any incidents along those lines by other GMs in baseball over the past 10-20 years.

And its not like another terrible year would mean Rube might get fired or something.

Just no way period.

Especially for a team that is trying to renegotiate a big $$ television deal and desperately needs to look relevant during that negotiation.

Nope, there are no other considerations at play that might affect Rube's strategy this winter. I'm 100% sure that he'd have the team's long-term interests at that top of his priority list right now.

Actually, I do think its possible the Phils are contenders next year if they sign Choo, McCann, Tanaka, and Shields/Garza. I think they would be extremely stupid to do this, unless the owners group has essentially handed Roob a blank check, because there will still need to be a few bullpen signings,and there's no way they'll get in under the luxury tax. But if the ownership group has opened up the wallet a la the Dodgers, its possible.

James Shields?

Not a FA until after next season.

I don't think the Phillies need to sign a bullpen. Martin has a very healthy arm, and I expect him to be very good. They also have Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez who I expect to go into the pen. He can reportedly get his fastball to sit in the 94 - 97 range there with movement.

The Phillies need to spend a lot of money on starters, both hitters and pitchers. Their young guys can fill in the reserve rolls.


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