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Friday, August 16, 2013

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BTW, for those of you who thought that Ruf's 2012 power surge was a mirage, I believe the jury is still out on that one.


In 128 PA this season, Ruf has 7 HR. That's a pace that would put him at 24 HR if he had the same number of PA as Dom.

I'm not saying he's the 'next coming', but so far in his MLB career he's displayed 30 HR power, with 10 HR in 165 PA.

It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up, because this power starved lineup sure could use it in 2014.

Brown/Ruf/Howard (assuming health) could be a pretty decent combo.

"tendinosis"?


Mr. Finger, is "tendinosis" different from tendinitis? If so, how?

It's apparent that Ruf has the strength and the hands to be a good power hitter in the bigs. As with all young hitters, time will tell if he has the ability to constantly adjust to the pitchers who attack his weaknesses.

I thought they might call Cloyd up to take Lannan's spot until Halladay gets back. He's been doing well lately as his whip is under 1 the past month or so. I guess they're going with a BP arm until that spot comes up in the rotation.

Phillies holding press conference @ 2:30PM. No other info available.

Interesting...wonder if its about Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez

Or to announce UC's retirement at the end of the season with Sandberg taking over.


Those are my two guesses.

Those are the only two scenarios I can think of as well, NEPP. still interesting, nonetheless.

It should be about Charlie stepping down now so that Sandberg can learn on the job for the rest of the year in preparation for 2014.

But what it will be about is they will announce the signing of Doc to a 5 year deal.

Per Twitter, apparently Michael Martinez is now in protective custody with the US Attorney's office and charges of aggravated Animal Cruelty and Beastiality have come back from a Grand Jury against Monty and Rube.

Wonder if it has anything to do with the presser?

Tendinitis is an inflammation of the tendon. Tendinosis is a more chronic condition and involved long term tendinitis, which then causes the original tendon material to be replaced by other connective tissue. It is a much worse condition to have. And the evidence is in both of my shoulders.

From pitching and rock climbing both of my rotator cuff tendons developed tendinosis and actually had become so thick that part of the treatment, other than removing my A-C joints, was to shave them down to normal thickness. And no, they still don't work right. They hurt every day and severely limit any arms over head activity I can perform.

So, that's it from both the doctor and patient perspective.

It should be about Charlie stepping down now so that Sandberg can learn on the job for the rest of the year in preparation for 2014.

Posted by: Joe D | Friday, August 16, 2013 at 01:14 PM


It'd be classier if they gave UC the rest of the year but still made it official. I mean, he is the most successful manager in franchise history.

My guess: Michael Young has either been traded for a bag of balls to be named later, or he has been signed to a team-friendly three year contract with four options based on ability to ambulate without a cane or walker.

How do we know Charlie doesn't want out? It's possible that he achieved what he wanted with win #1,000 and is ready to call it quits.

Doesn't class also go out the window when you let him be a lame duck all season anyway?

None of the beat writers have any clue...Murph listed MAG, UC's status and a possible TV deal as possibilities.

I know they've been supposedly renegotiating the TV deal early so that'd be huge for us if that was it.

Maybe they will announce a TV deal and the firing of T-Mac in one full swoop.

I'm told Charlie is out and that he may have been fired.

***Doesn't class also go out the window when you let him be a lame duck all season anyway?***

Not when he's 70 and his successor is already on the staff. Give him a chance to take a bow from the team and fans and around the league. Better than just firing him on a random Friday in August.

Any source on that, BobbyD?

NEPP, what if the parting is just mutual? And not a stone cold firing with them throwing his s**t into the parking lot and slamming the door.

Delmon Young being brought back?

Good point, JoeD.


It's possible that Charlie just wanted to hit 1,000 Ws and cut loose back to Florida with his little bitty and a cold drink.

This was good for a laugh:

@ByDavidMurphy: Phillies announce the contract Brad Lidge signed two weeks ago wasn't ceremonial, will be joined by Scott Eyre, So Taguchi in 2014.


Murph's got a good sense of humor.

Smitty, thanks for the explanation. I had never heard of "tendinosis".

the Phillies are telling the media that, in fact, walks are part of Production™

***It's possible that Charlie just wanted to hit 1,000 Ws and cut loose back to Florida with his little bitty and a cold drink***

Another good point, JoeD.

Friday in mid August, couldn't be a better time to announce bad news...

"Because of the struggles of the team in 2013, it was an especially poignant moment when Martinez bought out the ownership of the Phillies. As the announcement was made from the podium, few of those attending from the Front Office and, as team representatives, could resist the urge to openly cry for joy. More than anything else, the purchase guaranteed Michael's participation in the roster and line-up until he felt it was time to retire."

-- from "Life of a Baseball God" by R. A. Marrow, II

For as long as Dallas Green's been hanging around the organization, you have to believe Charlie could have a FO, adviser job if he wants it.

***Smitty, thanks for the explanation. I had never heard of "tendinosis". ***

Any day you learn something new is a good day IMHO.

The American Psychological Association has diagnosed Ruben Amaro, Jr. with Mild Mental Retardation.

Michael Martinez suspension announcement for his part in biogenesis?

I wonder how much Dallas Green makes in salary...and I wonder what his actual job responsibilities are.

I believe his responsibilities are as follows:

Be a giant a-hole.

He does it well too, hence why he is still around.

If it isn't Manuel, I'd be absolutely shocked.

A firing of Manuel would turn Ruben to full heel status. Don't care if Manuel steps down or retires. He doesn't deserve to be fired because of the mess Amaro has presented him to try to win with.

Rube fires Manuel, then Mini Mart smashes Rube with a steel chair from behind.

That's when Hogan comes out the supposedly save Manuel but instead puts on an NWO t-shirt?


>the Phillies are telling the media that, in fact, walks are part of Production™

Right there in the denominator.

Joe-
You actually simplified that responsibility list. The actual list reads:

1. Be an a-hole.
2. Be a bigger a-hole.
3. Be a giant a-hole.
4. Be a loud-mouthed a-hole.
5. Whenever possible, be a giant, over-paid, loudmouthed a-hole.

(There may have been one or two other responsibilites I'm forgetting.)

OK, so far the guesses about the Presser are :

1) Regarding the Cuban™

2) Managerial succession

3) Signing MYoung to a contract

4) MYoung trade

5) New TV deal

6) Charlie fired

7) TBag fired

8) DYoung being brought back

9) Phillies acknowledge that walks do count


I'll add a couple of my own:

10) r00b fired or reassigned

11) Charlie elevated to FO consultant

12) Howard out for the season

13) ... feel free to add to the list

You forgot my guess about federal charges of animal cruelty, awh.

13) As printed in the book: Mini-Mart bought out Middleton et al.

Salisbury is saying its a manager change.

UC is gone per Salisbury...

Maybe Mini-Mart is becoming a player/manager/owner.

They really aren't firing Charley with 40 games left?

Salisbury says manager change.

That'd be versatile.

If they fired Charlie it's misplaced blame.

r00b should go too. He's the one who put the crappy team on the field - not Charlie.

It will be an injustice if that's the case.

One other possibility:


13) Comcast is buying the Phillies (or a controlling interest), given the price they may have to pay for the TV rights, they may have decided an outright purchase is the way to go.

it's charlie, per salisbury.

14) Federal charges against mini mart for animal cruelty.

(sorry NEPP)

I think it would be a real let down if the mystery press conference was just to tell the media that Howard was done for the year.

"

"tendinosis"?


Mr. Finger, is "tendinosis" different from tendinitis? If so, how?

Posted by: awh™ | Friday, August 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM"

awh: The only person alive who lacks google.

Well, at least they let him get win #1000.

How low would this organization have fallen if they are firing Manuel after the crap Amaro has put on the field for two years. Unreal.

Technically, the animal cruelty charges were against Monty/Rube with MM as the key prosecution witness.

It's a real shame to see him go.

I can't imagine it's "firing" per se. This is the Phillies we're talking about.

CS, Gillick managed to get thisorganization over the hump, despite 25 years of futility ('93 being the lightning striking exception).


This organization may be returning to it's old ways of doing business, which is to say, we're in for a lot of years of watching VERY BAD baseball.

Hard to say that we couldn't see this coming, regardless of who is to blame.

Hey Finger, you're the supposed journalist who's supposed to inform readers, no?

@magelb: Charlie Manuel is no longer manager of the Phillies, according to a source.

A real shame

If they're firing Charlie, Joe D and Billingsly just became Amaro's biggest fans. They've been the most vocal anti-Charlie posters here.

I imagine Charlie will get the normal Phillies retirement package (permanent advisory position with the front office) if he wants it.

He won't be fired, he'll be kicked upstairs to a ceremonial role (aka lifetime pension if he wants it) The Phillies dont toss guys to the curb like that.

T-Mac is the best announcer in all of baseball.

Hopefully its just announcing Sandberg as the manager in 2014, and letting Manuel end 2013 himself.

I think it would be awesome for Charlie to come out for a pitching change in the 9th inning on the last home game of the year and get a standing ovation as he walks off the field at CBP for the last time.

A firing of Manuel would turn Ruben to full heel status. Don't care if Manuel steps down or retires. He doesn't deserve to be fired because of the mess Amaro has presented him to try to win with.

Posted by: Iceman | Friday, August 16, 2013 at 01:31 PM

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I agree with this and with NEPP's comment about it being classier to let Charlie finish out the year.

Unless Joe D.'s speculation is right and Charlie's had enough, too. Which we'll never really know. Charlie will be a good egg about it no matter what he really feels.

And if Ruben says "We felt like a change was needed because things obviously haven't been going the way we wanted them to" the question will still be: How does firing Charlie now make a difference? Unless RAJ believes that a team shake-up will lead to better play which will set the tone for a better 2014 somehow?

Not letting him get his due respect...

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Great Pic

I hope Cholly isn't the scapegoat.

Could it be that he actually wanted out? I'm sure they'll make it seem that way, but might it actually be true?

Red, I respect what Charlie did here a ton but he's not the guy moving forward. Some times change is necessary. Sure he made me pull my hair out many nights but he brought this team a ring. Thanks for that.

We will never know the true story behind the departure but I have a feeling it was more than likely mutual.

Scapegoating the manager would be classic Phillies FO after the absolute crap job Rube has done over the past few years to drive the franchise into the ground.

Still getting swept by Dodgers

Manuel may have gotten tired of "players" like Martinez and McDonald. And "solutions" like Nix and D. Young. He may have just said enough already.

If Sandberg steps up in his place then getting rid of Manuel only makes sense. A lot of this new core is in place right now. Sandberg has to feel things out now.

Again - what would 40 games as manager show about Sandberg? Absolutely nothing. If you argue otherwise, you don't know much about the game of baseball.

"How low would this organization have fallen if they are firing Manuel after the crap Amaro has put on the field for two years. Unreal."

RedBurb, exactly!


Wigginton
Durbin
Nix
Baez
Lindblom
Qualls
Brian Sanchez
Schneider
Schwimer
Valdes
Aumont
Blanton
Polanco
mini mart
Luna

Mini Mac
Carrera
Wells
Adams
Ramirez


Is Charlie responsible for those trades or signings?

FIRE r00b!!!

I've gotta think it was at least somewhat mutual. I'm sure this was a joint decision by RAJ, ownership, and Charlie.

Charlie makes some questionable decisions, but he can only play the hand he's dealt. He's used every single reliever in the organization, and they've all been disappointments or gotten injured.

He's mixed up the lineup and they haven't started hitting. He's been putting the young guys in and they still aren't scoring runs enough to win.

The starting pitching is what it is. He has nothing at all to do with that. Injury is to blame - and perhaps the question of whether the medical staff has handled injuries the best way.

Really disappointed for Charlie. I do think part of him will be relieved, however. It can't be fun to go out there every day this season.

I dislike the front office more than most people but I don't know if it's fair to assume they are torching Charlies manilla folders and putting them out with their own piss.

I don't think they will scapegoat him at all. The injuries are the official scapegoat.

Mr. Finger, is "tendinosis" different from tendinitis? If so, how?

Posted by: awh™ | Friday, August 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The Moving Finger, having writ, moved on.

"Scapegoating the manager would be classic Phillies FO after the absolute crap job Rube has done over the past few years to drive the franchise into the ground."

THIS!

Are we seriously surprised that the manager would get canned before the GM? Are you guys that unaware of the natural order of things?

We should all tweet the reporters that quote from RAJ, which I'm not sure how to find right now..."If I can't build a contending team with $140 million, then shame on me"?? Was that it? It was something to that effect.

DPatrone's inside source tells me Charlie has been fired.

What's ironic is that Rube is also going to announce the signing of Manny Ramirez to a two year contract, with a vesting option for a third.

Now here comes the tons of facebook posts & tweets acting like Charlie was the greatest manager ever.

Can the ownership be fired for not firing RAJ? (rhetorical wisecrack)

"Again - what would 40 games as manager show about Sandberg? Absolutely nothing. If you argue otherwise, you don't know much about the game of baseball."


This too.

Is this going to be online?

Ruben has no business firing Charlie. He should've gone first.

Don't know if it's already posted but I heard Manuel has been fired.

Red, 40 games isn't going to show much, obviously, but if they are set on having Sandberg manage in 2014 then you might as well let him try his hand at some games now. Does it hurt for him to start now?

Whether or not he was the greatest manager is irrelevant. He was the most winningest manager in team history. Unless this was a mutual parting, there is no reason to can him now and promote Sandberg. It's a poor way to run an organization.

Hopefully he 2:30 presser is something along the lines of :

"Ruben Amaro Jr. is no longer employed by the Phillies organization. We wish him luck in his future endeavors."

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