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Tuesday, June 11, 2013

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Funny, that was my first thought too. Mayberry or Nix? Nix or Mayberry? Where will the fickle finger of Cholly fall?

Free RUF!

Ignore the above troll.

Free Mini Mart.

Oh please. how many times are we going to hear 'now or never'. You'll still be trumpeting that tired line in six weeks.

Schu's Blues: if he's still saying it in 6 weeks, it pretty much means "never."

Any other team might stand a chance in tonight's game. But, as clout would point out, [against the Phillies] Walters is one of the best young arms in baseball.

"Walters is one of the best young arms in baseball."

Certainly someone we'll have to Tip Our Caps To™ After he Settles Down™

Free Tommy Joseph.

I read the article on csnphilly.com about cliff lee...what kind of package would the phils be able to get for him?

Man, this team has no luck: they're ALWAYS going against one of the best young arms in baseball (BYAIB). Curse the schedule gods!

I will fault Cholly for many things but, going forward, I no longer plan to fault him for not starting Nix against LHP. I will fault RAJ, however, for still having Nix on the roster.

bap: exactly. I blamed charlie for the beginning of the season, but even if Nix has been unfairly given limited time, his limited time has been horrendous.

Charlie clearly won't use him, and Nix has proven him right for not doing so. Just cut him already.

Yeah, Nix is absolutely pointless.

Interesting article on how the new Houston front office makes decisions and sources talent.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9357636/houston-astros-hope-strong-farm-system-improve-club-espn-magazine

I hope Amaro is as detail-oriented as Luhnow is.

Wait a minute. Are we still pining away for Nix, or not. Talk about fickle. Who, then, is the Benchwarmer Who Would Save the Day if only Cholly would use him?

Mocon: Its a hard question to answer because of the $$ involved, but to speak more generally, the absolute floor of a Cliff Lee trade should be the RA Dickey deal centerpiece of:

MLB ready top 25 prospect (dArnaud)
High ceiling top 50 prospect (Syndergaard)

Plus 1 or 2 lesser players depending on the value of the centerpiece.

And again, that should be considered the minimum. If that trade never happened, and Toronto wanted Cliff Lee for the exact players in question, I would need at least 1 more top prospect still.

I still remember when Rube kicked off the offseason with the trifecta of Thome, Wiggie, and Nix. You knew right there that the happy days were over.

re: trading Lee

I feel like its one of those moves were you know you should do it...but just hard to admit.

I don't want to trade Cliff Lee, but it might be the only chance to bring in new talent with any shot of improving the team's long term future.

"Free Mini Mart.

Posted by: Mini Mart | Tuesday, June 11, 2013 at 02:06 PM"

Not worth it, even at that price.

Better chance:
Dom leads NL in HR
or
Phillies get in postseason

Interesting article on surplus value of contracts.

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/9357657/alex-rodriguez-paul-george-oklahoma-city-thunder-all-questionable-contracts-espn-magazine

Not surprisingly, the 2012 Phillies came in last:

Phillies: -$80M
Miami: -$75.1M
Boston: -$62.9M
Yankees: -$52.2M
Cubs: -$34.5M

I guess this is what happens when you pay a lot of money to aging players.

speaking of Syndergaard - Maikel Franco and Kelly Dugan took him deep the other night, only the 2nd and 3rd players to do so this year. He actually has only surrendered 5 HR to the 944 batters faced hes ever faced professionally before Franco/Dugan.

"Better chance: Dom leads NL in HR
or Phillies get in postseason."

I don't really expect Dom to lead the NL in homeruns but, considering that we're 40% of the way through the season, and he is leading the league by 2 homeruns, while the Phillies are 6.5 games out of the second WC, with 5 teams ahead of them, this question has a pretty obvious answer.

Between work and a spotty wifi connection, my % of Phils games / innings watched has plummeted this year. I don't think I've seen Nix on the field since early May.

Also, in further proof that hell is freezing over, rumor is that the Pittsburgh Pirates have sold out tonight and, it is not opening day, nor are teh Phillies in town.

Hugh, this does not compute...

When you say "the Pittsburgh Pirates have sold out tonight," are you sure they didn't mean that they'll be wearing huge Heinz Ketchup logos on their uniforms????

Blue Jays have released Henry Blanco. Can there be even the slightest doubt that he's destined to sign with the Phillies?

"I don't want to trade Cliff Lee, but it might be the only chance to bring in new talent with any shot of improving the team's long term future."

It didn't work the first time, why would you think RAJ would get it right this time?

I need a davthom73 post to tell me whose the better play: Henry Blanco, Humberto Quintero, or Steven Lerud.

"Blue Jays have released Henry Blanco. Can there be even the slightest doubt that he's destined to sign with the Phillies?"

Let's see here:
- career 68 OPS+
- OPS+ of 132 two yrs ago (in 112 PA's)
- experience with 10 previous clubs in 16 years
- 41 years old
- "team friendly" $750k salary

Yeah, this is a slam dunk...

bap - Is Blanco old enough for the Phils? And you figure he'll sign for three years, or will he want the fourth year guaranteed?

lorecore, Dickey had a friendly contract. Lee's contract will get in the way of getting a bunch of prospects, unless the Phils eat a bunch of money. (Which I think they should should eat as much as possible if it increases the talent in return).

Steve: Because maybe this time it won't be part of another move that forced his hand. Also, cliff lee was a career 109 ERA+ pitcher with a 1.30 WHIP at the time of the first trade.

He's been a 141 ERA+ pitcher with a 1.04 WHIP since then.

Not saying the first trade wasn't a complete failure, but the dynamics have certainly changed.

Edmundo: Agreed. The Phillies should have plenty of money to go around if they retool/rebuild/etc too, so eating money on Lee to maximize the return should be a slam dunk - says a guy whose money isn't being spent.

"It didn't work the first time, why would you think RAJ would get it right this time?"

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile?

It is pretty surprising that Gerrit Cole is that big a deal to that many of their fans. Pens and Steelers were too disappointing maybe

Remember when we SOLD Tuffy Gosewisch last year? Rube...

"are you sure they didn't mean that they'll be wearing huge Heinz Ketchup logos on their uniforms?"

That's a fair question. I'll look out teh window at game time and see if they're wearing red. It may be, though, that Pirates fans are actually excited to see the kid they called up to pitch tonight. Although it's a Tuesday, the kids are out of school, hte Penguins are out of hte playoffs, the Pirates aren't in last place, and Steeler training camp didn't start so it we're in baseball season, as it's defined in Western Pennsylvania.

"Is Blanco old enough for the Phils? And you figure he'll sign for three years, or will he want the fourth year guaranteed?"

They'll meet in the middle: a 4th year option with a $10M buyout.

Pirates have enough guys named Garrett / Gerrit to file the front row for the Firecracker 400.

Hey, if Rube wants to sign that kid Blanco, I'm sure he still has one of my AARP contracts lying around to use as a template?

Looks like Hank White isn't much for taking walks, either. He'd definitely fit right in.

I just read a corey seidman post on csnphilly that is about 100x more informative than the beerleaguer header, which is basically a watered down version of his real post.

I cannot wait to hear Wheels call Henry Blanco "a gamer, scrappy, workhorse, journeyman, professional baseball player."

myoung
revere
rollins
howard
brown
DYak DH
Mayberry RF
Gavlis
Quintero

Actually, when you look at that, it is a miracle they ever win a game.

I haerd this Gavlis kid can plya!

curt - They've probably won half the games they have because the opposing manager sees the line-up card and can't stop laughing.

Remember, Nix is here instead of Nate Schierholtz.

17 mil earned over the career. And he is taking league minimum deals at age 40. Bad divorce or sh8tty investments?

lorecore, so you're saying that Beerleaguer is actually Remedial CSN Philly? I'm hurt.

Or maybe "CSI Philly"?

Not sure I care anymore. I still am and always will be Phan, but the organization is doing its best to kill my interest at the present time. Who wants to watch balls drop in front of Delmon Young because of a gimpy ankle and a lack of hustle?

What is the difference between Delmon's ankle and PtB's foot/ankle?

I knew he'd bat Revere 2nd. Got to have speed in the top 2.

limoguy, there shouldn't be anything dropping in front of "regular RF" Delmon Young tonight - he's the DH. Besides, I'm sure that Howard is nimble enough to help cover the right side of the field.

"What is the difference between Delmon's ankle and PtB's foot/ankle?"

Around .200 points of OPS.

I got Cole on my fantasy bench tonight. Can I rely on him for 4 scoreless innings and 3 Ks?

"What is the difference between Delmon's ankle and PtB's foot/ankle?"
Around .200 points of OPS.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, June 11, 2013 at 06:02 PM

Ain't that the truth...terrible defense and base running is acceptable from an above-average or better offensive player (obviously contingent of defensive position), but Elmn brings nothing to the table.

17 mil earned over the career. And he is taking league minimum deals at age 40. Bad divorce or sh8tty investments?

Posted by: The Evil Ed Wade | Tuesday, June 11, 2013 at 05:24 PM

Are you kidding? Blanco's got it figured out. Being a back-up catacher on an MLB-guaranteed contract is some of the best work around. Who doesn't want a job where you only work six months out of the year and, 90% of the time, all that is expected of you is to show up for work and not actually do anything? And, when you're expected to do something, the performance standards are so very low that even if you totally stink at it, you'll probably keep your job? Oh, and if you are so bad at your job that you get fired, your former employer is still required to pay you your entire salary for the year. A salary of at least half-a-million dollars.

Apropos of nothing, Hugh Mulcahy had one of the funniest posts last year, involving a phantom invitation to drink; a bottle of Knob Creek (100 proof; he would provide) and the demand for any companion to possess "bail money".

Wow. Did you ever set out on that journey, Hugh? If yes, was bail necessary? I can't imagine a worse feeling than waking up in a jail cell with a Knob Creek hangover...

Kinda' reminds me of this baseball team.

The day after Kratz went down I awaited Rube to sign Blanco. He is just the perfect candidate and I can see Rube wetting his undies to bring him on board. Who is next in line after Lerud if for some reason we have to get there? Im assuming is probably Suomi based on his experience level.

Lerud has already filmed the pilot episode of his reality show "Lerud dog and the Dweebs."

I feel all clammy tonight in this 'sota weather.

Twins announcer just called keeping Revere off the bases in this series a challenge

Henry Blanco is just going to drive to Minnesota tonight expecting to get signed and start tomorrow for the Phils.

CF camera is so far away on the Twins broadcast

All the writers (include JW, RIP) hate this site, because everyone is so negative and mean to eachother (and them).

Remember when Seidman posted in the comments that JW doesn't post anymore cause we make him sad?

A true joy to watch them hit

A clean first inning for a 28-year old pitcher with a 5.92 career ERA whom I'd never heard of until 5 minutes ago. You just have to tip your cap . . .

"Players so and so ends an 0 for 24 slump"
-Words heard too often on Phillies baseball broadcasts for 500 Alex

Carroll. Theriot. Skip Schumaker. Jon Jay. Basically the same player, all can hit the Phillies.

Carroll has been god awful this year, btw, which means he'll hit .400 in this series and score six runs.

Once upon a time, aksmith wanted to sign Jamey Carroll instead of Rollins.

Delmon Young is a stiff.

Note to self: Trade top two prospects for PJ Walters.

Not to be negative, but this lineup does not inspire confidence. Just sayin'.

How the !@#$% did Justin Morneau foul off 5 of Hamels pitches? What has MLB learned about Hamels that makes him run up ridiculously high pitch counts so early? Damn

Here we go again.

40 pitches in 2 innings. I remember as a wee lad listening to a Jim Bunning post-game interview. By Saam? Campbell? Ashburn (it was probably Ritchie Ashburn; he was the cub) casually remarked "...well, Jim, you really worked for the win today. What did you throw; 180 pitches?

Yup. Maybe Hamels is cut from a different bolt of cloth -- maybe he's OK with CG pitch totals in the 120 -130 range. Hamels does look fit enough to toss that many pitches; once in a while, anyway.

The comments themselves have fallen off a cliff. Is Beerleaguer dying, or already dead?

I was here in '06, a far different crowd for a far different team.

dl - it's not the blog; it's the team. The "who cares" threshold has been well exceeded; probably the moment that the 5 game win-streak was followed by 3 loses.

"I was here in '06, a far different crowd for a far different team. "

Buncha frontrunners.

"The "who cares" threshold has been well exceeded; probably the moment that the 5 game win-streak was followed by 3 loses."

Just out of curiosity - what criteria do you use to determine that a player doesn't care about winning?

Haha. 2-2 with a stolen base. Hilarious.

"loses" = "losses"

Revere has tremendous versatility when it comes to ground outs. He can hit them to any infield position -- often all within the same game.

If Rube wanted to do something useful on this trip, he could corner the Twin GM and point out that the trade hasn't worked out for either team and try to it reversed.

Twins radio: "The Phils have lost that swagger."

Curt - That's an understatment. Hamels has had looked good from the get go tonight and had good fastball location early. Hopefully that holds up.

Unfortunately we have no reason for swagger.

Morneau and Howard had have eeirly similiar twists in their career in that one play lead to an injury that they have yet to recover from.

At least the Twins though are only on the hook to pay Morneau through this year.

"Revere has tremendous versatility when it comes to ground outs. He can hit them to any infield position -- often all within the same game."

Ah yes, the genius of Cholly's newest lineup. Have MYoung with his decent obp lead off, and have a guy whose signature AB is a ground ball to a middle infielder bat 2nd.

curt: you're definitely onto something, but you're missing a fundamental Amaro detail. He'd corner the Twin GM and point out that the trade hasn't worked out for either team and try to it reversed... by offering Revere, Sandberg, and Asche to reacquire Worley.

My definition of a die-hard Phillies fan: anyone who is watching this game.

Well there went the lead. It's a shame Hamels has pissed this team off so much so they are slacking behind him. Mayberry should've scaled the right field wall like Spiderman there.

This is turning into a very quintessential Cole Hamels 2013 outing.

Just get me to the plate, boys.

You can't fault Revere there, playing in a strange, new stadium and all...oh, wait.

The Twins' announcers are basically saying that Revere has made that catch on plenty of occasions. It would would have been a great catch, but I think it's fair to expect those kinds of catches since the guy provides absolutely nothing offensively.

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