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Wednesday, April 03, 2013

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More nervous about this game than the one on opening day. Here's hoping Doc gets off to a solid start, or at least something positive to build on.

Yeah, this is as big a deal as the 2nd game of the season can be.

If you want to know how far Halladay has fallen in such a short amount of time: I just pulled out the 2012 Bill James Handbook and opened up to the piece on Pitchers on Course for 300 Wins.

Halladay was on the top of the list: his established win level was 17.5, his momentum at .894 (second only to CC) and his chance was at 49%.

Now, it wasn't even a great shot then. James notes that Halladay and CC were the only conceivable possibilities at the beginning of that year, and were only 50/50 shots.

But it's not even fathomable now. And I guess that's what's really worrisome: not that he's injured or lingering, but that the guy we always thought of as the smartest in the room hasn't been able to figure out how to operate within his new reality.

Hope I'm wrong.

Docpocalypse Now

49% seems pretty high even pre-2012. He'd have to have 5-6 great seasons, and the luck that comes with 15-20 win seasons, to get to 300.

I sorta expect the Braves to shell Doc tonight. They hit Hamels hard too. I guess there are priors, and that's why we'd worry about Doc and shrug off Hamels' start. Wish they'd have pushed Doc's start to Friday.

I must say, thank you Comcast for the MLB Extra Innings preview.
I was just about to go to sleep last night, but decided to check out Extra Innings for a bit before doing so...found the Tex/Hou game in the bot 7th and soon realized what was going on. Total shock when that grounder went 5-hole on him.

I couldn't understand why the 'experts' were so high on Yu coming into this year...now i know why. Astros or not, some of those pitches were downright nasty.

***I couldn't understand why the 'experts' were so high on Yu coming into this year...now i know why***

He had some control issues last year but he's seemingly adjusted that. Granted, he's never going to be Greg Maddux but with his stuff:

97 mph 4 seamer with great movement
94-95 mph 2 seamer with great movement
mid 80s slider with ridiculous downward break
etc

He doesnt need to be pinpoint as guys will chase his stuff. He could be scary good this year.

Granted, last night showed what he would do to the typical AAA club...I want to see him face some of the bigger offenses in the league going forward. His stuff has definitely ticked up going into 2013.

"I couldn't understand why" wasn't the correct way to phrase it; more that I'd barely seen Yu pitch at all, and I'm naturally anti-hype by default. Now that I have seen (albeit a SSS), I understand why.

True that we'll have to see what he does now against a stronger team.

Every time I see a player/pitcher like Darvish, Cespedes or Chapman, I always wonder why the "big spending" Phillies (they do have the third highest payroll in MLB) aren't willing to take the risk on a player like that.

Daisuke Matsuzaka was one thing, but these other guys signed for much, much less. Chapman got 6/30.25 (Cots) which is starting to look like the deal of the century. Cespedes got 4/36, and had he been in Philly last season would have been the best guy in their lineup.

I know, I know, hindsight is 20/20, but we're not talking the kinds of dollars that would break the Phillies' bank account - not say... 5/125.

Just for the record, Darvish got 6/56 after Texas won the negotiating right with a 51,703,411 posting fee.

But I'm referencing guys like Cespedes and Chapman, who's contracts are not off the charts.

awh- Cespedes was a fairly obvious move to make that got overlooked. It's a shame that wasn't pursued more.

5/125, that's a curious random number...

Somewhat agreed: I can't stomach the principal of a $50M "posting fee" just for the right to acquire a Darvish. But for the Cuban players like Chapman or Cespedes, those contracts clearly look like they'll be bargains.

Since the Phils FO clearly prioritizes scouting, is there maybe an issue where they feel they can't "properly" scout the Cuban players?

Given that starting pitchers rarely go more than 7 IP in the current era and they pitch on 4 days, rather than 3 days, rest, there will be very, very few 300 game winners in this era.

Doc will get his 200th, but not tonight I'm afraid.

Darvish has crazy stuff but he gets knocked around on occasion. Last night he was throwing a lot of ~91 mph cutters, about a third 82ish sliders, and then like NEPP mentioned he has that blazing 4-seamer that averages about 94.

They could not touch his slider. I'm guessing more seasoned hitters would fare better, but they swung at a ton of these sliders and whiffed at a substantial number. I think only 1 of the 30 or so he threw even got put in play.

He mixes in curves and split, I think, too.

'5/125, that's a curious random number..."


Yeah, I just pilled it out of thin air. :)

"...PULLED it out of thin air." (darn fingers)

I'm completely making this up, but I wouldn't be shocked if I read someday the "old school" Phils don't scout Cuban players b/c of Castro or something outdated like that. Cespedes was a risk, but wasn't the downside on him that his ceiling didn't scream "superstar"?

Yeah, just did a quick check of the Pitch f/x from his start.

He threw 32 sliders. They swung at over 70% of these pitches and whiffed at 34% of them. 1 was put in play. He was locating this pitch really well.

http://pitchfx.texasleaguers.com/pitcher/506433/?batters=&pitches=&from=4/2/2013&to=4/2/2013

The Phils were "in on" Soler and Cespedes, weren't they? Only one team gets to sign these guys.

I don't think they were in the mix for Darvish, Shame. But Japanese pitchers don't have a great track record in MLB.

BB, I vaguely remember the scouting reports, and IIRC there was some concern about his age, but don't the Phillies PRIDE themselves on being old school scouts? Aren't their scouts good enough to identify talent like that?


Cespedes worked out extensively for any team that was willing to go take a look at him. I remember the MLB TV and ESPN segments. The Phillies HAD to have at least kicked the tires, no?


Personally, I think is was the asking price, not the scouting, which goes back to my original question.

Bed's Beard: I think the upside was always "superstar" with Cespedes.

The risk was he's something of a hacker who was pretty raw. At this point, it looks like he's closer to the Vlad Guerrero school of hacker than the Yuni Betancourt school of hacker, but it was tough to tell that at the time. It was a risk, for sure.

Still, I think most of us agreed we wished they'd made a play for him.

Sophist, Darvish had the second highest K% among starters last season. His stuff works greatly against all hitters, and completely dominates really weak teams.

If he can keep his BB rate below 10% this season, while maintaining his great strikeout stuff, he'll probably be a front runner for the Cy Young in the AL.

The Phils' track record of throwing money at "prospects" (i.e. Cuban defectors, draft picks, etc.) isn't too generous. I suppose I understand their thinking, because it's easy to make a 7-figure mistake. But- I can say that Cespedes would look pretty good in LF right about now.

For what it's good for, Cespedes had a 3.7 bWAR/2.9 fWAR in only 129 games/540 PA.

The fWAR would have been the fourth highest on the Phillies (Chooch, JRoll, Chase), and the bWAR the second highest(Chooch).


If he plays a full season (150 G)...?

Sil, Cespedes/Revere/Brown would look really good, and we wouldn't be looking forward to the return of Demon Young.

Sil, Cespedes/Revere/Brown would look really good, and we wouldn't be looking forward to the return of Demon Young.

Posted by: awh | Wednesday, April 03, 2013 at 11:16 AM

If one of our corner OF spots were literally being left vacant going into every game, I STILL wouldn't be looking forward to the return of Delmon Young.

I guess the only silver lining about tonight is the low expectations.

Most of us assume the Braves are going to shell Doc, right?

Fata - I didn't mean to imply that Darvish is an average pitcher against other lineups. He struck out 15 guys last night. I was just explaining why the Astros were especially futile. His typically swing and whiff pct. on that slider are 55% and 23%. It's an excellent pitch, but the Astros were especially tripped up by it.

His FIP last year was pretty much identical to Hamels. He's clearly a top 30 pitcher right now. His ERA was almost a full run higher than Hamels' though. He got beat up a bit in a few starts last year.

FWIW, tonight's Braves' SP, Maholm, has a career 5.16 ERA vs. the Phillies, but he's been hit-or-miss" against them.

He's been really good at times or really bad.

Go Doc! We're with ya brotha!!

I guess the only silver lining about tonight is the low expectations.

Most of us assume the Braves are going to shell Doc, right?

Posted by: Jack | Wednesday, April 03, 2013 at 11:18 AM

I don't.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting an 8 IP, 1 R outing from Doc, but I could see him going 6 IP and only giving up 2-3.

If I'm going to assume that the Braves are going to shell him tonight, than I must not think that Doc can pitch AT ALL anymore. The Braves have a good offense, but they're not the '27 Yankees. If Doc can still pitch to ML hitters, than he is capable of being serviceable against the Braves tonight.

For their insistance on scouting and refusal to adapt to advanced metrics, the Phillies don't scout that much better than other teams. If they were getting great results for their scouting efforts and the minors were filled with talent every step of the way, I could understand why they would have some reservations to adapt. But they aren't. I think that is what gets me the most about their attitude towards advanced metrics.

"the minors were filled with talent every step of the way"

They traded away a ton of talent. They aren't the Braves and they make odd-ball choices (Hewitt), but the Phils have great scouts, it seems.

RedBurb, exactly.

Yeah Sophist, I think as long as Darvish brings that walk rate down, he'll approach a low 3s ERA. His stuff is beyond filthy.

d'Arnaud, Singleton, Gose, Biddle, Quinn, maybe Brown. Seems weird to doubt their scouting/drafting.

Yeah, Fata. 4.19 BB/9 last year. Yikes. Probably a better bet to be over 3.50 ERA otherwise.

Yeah, I think the Phils scouting has been pretty good. They also scouted guys like Victorino and Werth back when they were not established and picked them off the scrap heap.

I think everyone agrees scouting is far more important at the amatuer level. No one thinks you can evaluate a high school player, or even a low-A ball player, by their stats.

What is baffling is that the Phils refuse to use advanced metrics to evaluate pro players who have years of service in the majors. For those guys, the stats are going to be as, if not more, useful than scouting.

Jack, no question about that last paragraph. Just don't agree with others that the current state of the Phils farm or their inability to sign Soler/Cespedes speaks to problems with their amateur scouting.

I'm questioning why they are so stubborn when it comes to scouting. Why aren't new methods incorporated into old ones? Yes, they have good scouts, but they aren't far and away the best in the game. That should be what the organization strives towards. Not just accepting the status quo of "well we drafted d'Arnaud, Singleton, Gose, Biddle, Quinn, Brown and that's good enough."

Sophist: Right.

The current state of their farm system has more to do with their lack of draft picks due to FA signings, their refusal for years to spend extra money on the draft/international signing, and trading away everyone to try and win now.

Some of those moves (the first and the third) are justifiable, in certain cases. But I've long thought it penny-wise and pound-foolish for a team willing to spend $170 million a year on a major league payroll not to allocate a few extra million towards draft picks and international signings.

Sophist: Hewitt, Golson, CJHenry :), Valent, Reggie Taylor, Cardenas, Collier, Costanzo, Mattair...

Yes, you are correct in that they've had some hits, but they've had an awful lot of misses in the higher rounds as well.

The question is not whether they've had those hits and misses - all teams do, but how well their strategy/methodology performs relative to other teams.

I don't know how to look that up or determine that.

RedBurb: Pretty sure everyone here agrees with that assessment.

awh: It's also hard to separate those "misses" from ownership's unwillingness to spend the necessary money in the draft.

Yeah, most of those players stink, but the scouts' and Marti Wolever's hands were tied by ownership's insistence on spending only slot money on the early draft picks. I doubt many scouts would honestly tell you they thought Anthony Hewitt was the best player available at that pick.

awh - you named a guy drafted in 1995 and another drafted in 1998. The first round of '95 was especially bad. Darin Erstad was #1 overall; if not for Doc that may be the worst first round I have ever seen.

I'd think the probable ranking of the Phils farm system against other teams (in the counterfactual world where all players are assigned to the teams that drafted them) would be ranked -- what? -- definitely top 10 if not top 5. I think that says a lot about how well they've drafted despite some hiccups.

This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, but I am watching Quick Pitch and I saw that Michael Morse went deep twice yesterday and I got to thinking. I wonder if the Nats are going to be sorry that they resigned Adam Laroche instead of keeping Morse.

No offense to Todd Helton, also taken in that round/draft.

I just pilled it out of thin air. :)

That was how Ruiz explained his great 2012 season. /ducks

Does Doc get his 200th in April?

Speaking of Hewitt, this his last year under his current deal so he can become a minor league FA after the season is concluded. If he shows anything at Reading, do you think the team resigns him? Various scouts and writers say the tools are still there and he looks like he can put it together.

Phils' draft record definitely hasn't been bad for the last decade, that's for sure...But I agree that I really wish they'd be willing to spend money on big international FAs. They tend to have a budget for international signings in the bottom 10, and I've got to think that there's a better return on investment for the Cespedes/Darvish/Chapmans of the world than the Hewitt/Taylor/Golsons.

Mike G: I personally never understood why they were so keen on re-signing Laroche and trading Morse. I know Laroche is much better defensive at 1B, but I think I would still rather have Morse.

I wonder if it was personality-related. Or maybe they just thought since they could turn Morse into something of value (while they would've gotten nothing had LaRoche signed elsewhere), the calculus was that LaRoche + AJ Cole > Morse.

Still, I thought it was odd.

Does Doc get his 200th in April?

If he stays off the DL, yes. The April schedule is actually pretty favorable.

I guess the only silver lining about tonight is the low expectations.

Most of us assume the Braves are going to shell Doc, right?

You know what they say, "every silver lining has a cloud".

I'm guessing 5 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 2 K.

Halladay has gotten no love in Vegas. His start opened at -105 and moved all the +115 at some books the past day or so. Braves are now at -120 or -125.

There was a ton of money that went on the Braves (including me at -115).

Really unusual to see a regular game shift that much in less than 48 hrs.

d'Arnaud, Singleton, Gose, Biddle, Quinn, maybe Brown. Seems weird to doubt their scouting/drafting.

While recognizing that the first 5 would put the Phils in the top third of farm systems, not one of those guys have made any kind of positive contribution in the Major Leagues yet. I reserve judgement on the greatness of the Phillies scouts. Keep in mind that there has been a long dry period between Chooch and now for position players.

The Phillies draft and scouting team have hit on some picks and they've missed on a bunch. I don't think any team in the league is all that different from that.

The problem is that the first round of a baseball draft is a crapshoot. You select a guy that either has all the tools or is willing to sign at the value there. The Phillies usually went with the second option and that is inevitably going to bite you on the ass at some point because guys that sign for slot aren't necessarily the best guys to take.

On top of that- the Phillies for the past 10 years have either been on the cusp of the playoffs or in them and have used up draft picks by signing free agents to put them over the top. When you do that you really need to hit on guys and their record is spotty. Also, they haven't been terribly bad that they are picking in the upper tier of the first round. Yes the Nationals got Strasburg and Harper but mainly because they were terrible for a long time. Give them credit though that they drafted those guys and got them to sign and they were right on them and that those two seem to be capable of living up to their potential.

There are a ton of intangibles that go into building a farm system. The Phillies never seem to get all those factors working together.

GTown_Dave: "I'm guessing 5 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 2 K."

I see your 5 IP, 5 ER and raise you to 3.1 IP, 5 ER.

I'd guess Doc labors through 5, gives up 3 ER, 6 H, 2 BBs, 4 Ks.

Gives them a chance to win at least, if not a great one.

I would be happy with a 'Cory Lidle special' tonight of 6 IP and 3 or 4 ER.

I agree Jack. I am doubtful that LaRoche duplicates his numbers from last year. I'm betting Morse will have a much better year. I remember a few years ago there were reports that the Phils were trying to work a trade with the Nats for Morse. I wish they could have worked out a deal.

I wouldn't mind Morse in our system right now either, but weren't those murmurs in early 2011 or 2010? We weren't really looking for additional 1Bs then, and neither was our outfield poorly-stocked at the time.

Plus, you'd have to think by 2011 that the Nats had an inkling they'd be able to compete in a year or two, so the asking price would have been pretty high, no?

I remember a few years ago there were reports that the Phils were trying to work a trade with the Nats for Morse. I wish they could have worked out a deal.

Posted by: Mike G | Wednesday, April 03, 2013 at 12:06 PM

I believe there was speculation in 2011, and Rizzo joked that the conversation with the Phils would start with Dom Brown + others...in other words, he had no intention of making a deal with the Phils.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the deal with the Nats for Morse was never gonna happen, but wouldn't he look nice batting in the 5 hole playing RF.

Those were the daaaaaaaaaaaaays~

Hm... Mets are pretty desperate for a SP right about now. Maybe we can swing a deal with Cloyd and a fungible reliever for one of their Dickey acquisitions?

I miss the other Roy. At least when he sucked you knew it was because he had done something ignorant, like attempting to clear-cut an old growth forest using nothing but a spork the day after throwing 115 pitches. The thought of Halladay suddenly becoming old is just ... depressing.

I remember when I would check a pitching matchup and see Doc vs. some stiff like Paul Maholm and laugh while thinking about what I would do from 9:00 on as he wrapped things up in 2 hours.

That's how I feel GTown. My heart seriously hurts for Doc. He deserves a much better fate and grander exit from the game. What's happening just isn't right. And then you see scumbags like Ray Lewis ride off into the sunset with blood on their white suit and 2 rings.

" And then you see scumbags like Ray Lewis ride off into the sunset with blood on their white suit and 2 rings."

Thanks to a penalty that wasn't called. But don't get me started . . .

Interesting that Doc's eulogy has already been written and he hasn't thrown a single pitch yet this season.

Joe D: Exactly. Unfortunately, I'm reminded of the wisdom of 'Unforgiven': "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

Maybe we can swing a deal with Cloyd and a fungible reliever for one of their Dickey acquisitions?

So Cloyd and FRP** gets you a half a shirt? What color Dickey acquisition would you like? How about a nice baby blue one to give Rube that 1968 Doc Severinsen swinger look? :)

** Fungible Relief Pitcher, I think we need to acronymize that.

Chris, I agree. People assuming he's going to get shelled tonight are basically assuming that Doc can't compete at the ML level anymore.

If you're certain that he's going to get shelled tonight, then who do you think he CAN get out?

Interesting that Doc's eulogy has already been written and he hasn't thrown a single pitch yet this season.

Posted by: Chris in VT


This.

The Urban Dictionary is lacking in baseball terminology, overall...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FRP

I'm not saying Doc is done but I think sitting here right now that it is easier to think the worst than the best. For me anyway. I love the guy and if anyone can beat the odds I would hope it would be him but I just don't see it right now.

"awh - you named a guy drafted in 1995 and another drafted in 1998. The first round of '95 was especially bad."


Sophist, yes I did.

Was not the same draft philosophy being utilized at that time, and therefore, the results be indicative of said philosophy's efficacy?

Edmundo - that's why they're prospects (with exception of Dom at this point). That's 4-5 top 100 prospects (only Gose isn't on BAs 2013 list). How many teams have 4-5? Top third seems understating the minor league talent they've drafted. Maybe not.

http://www.grantland.com/print?id=9125657

Never understood why people wax poetic about the older Fenway pre-rennovations. Fenway was a badly aging relic bordering on dump in the late 90s.

If you enjoy stepping through the overflowing urine from the backed up though in the men's restoom under the bleachers or sitting in trash (common occurence on Sunday day games after a Saturday night sellout), I guess you would be thrilled by Fenway in the late 90s/early 00s before the new management group took over.

From BA --

BY ORIGINAL ORGANIZATION
6 Cardinals
5 Blue Jays, Mariners, Pirates, Red

Sox, Reds, Twins, Yankees
4 Astros, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Marlins, Nationals, Phillies, Rangers, Royals
3 Dodgers, Padres, Rockies, Tigers

awh: That's confusing anecdotal causation with permanent causation. Just because it didn't work out one year doesn't mean it never-or-rarely works out. In fact, judging by the guys the Phillies have brought up or traded in the last decade, they've done pretty well for themselves on the drafting front.

Their philosophy didn't work out well in '95, but it didn't seem too bad in 2000-2002, did it? In 2003 they didn't even select until the 3rd round.

Phillibuster: I'd be curious to see exactly what you could get for Cloyd.

My guess? Organizational filler. Or possibly a Grade C, class A-level prospect from an organization that had surplus at a position.

MG, agree on Fenway.

Actually the only thing nostalgic about which to "wax" is the field and it's dimensions including the Green Monster.

The rest of the place still is a dump, or at least was the last time I took in a Phils' series there a few years back (post-90's). The seats are small and uncomfortable and the troughs were still there. To top it off the food wasn't particularly good either.

Some of the diehard Bosox fans prefer going to one of the bars in the neighborhood and catching the game there. After a big win the crowd comes out and fills the bars so you have the same atmosphere.

The fact that he did great in AAA last year and didn't get destroyed (although he wasn't great) in a few MLB starts probably means he nets you more than just org filler. By virtue of his age/control if nothing else.

If you package him with a relief prospect who maybe doesn't have a great ceiling but consistently performs in the 3.75-4.25 ERA range, I should think you could get a B-to-B-minus class prospect or a solid utility guy.

It's not a move that would make or break the team, but it could help re-stock a bit, or shore up the IF/OF in case of injury and/or Delmon/Ruf/Carerra all stinking.

I don't buy that he's completely done, but 6 IP, 3 ER, 4 K, 3 BB, 100 pitches, and exhaustion at the end might be the new archetypal Halladay start.

"Every time I see a player/pitcher like Darvish, Cespedes or Chapman, I always wonder why the "big spending" Phillies (they do have the third highest payroll in MLB) aren't willing to take the risk on a player like that."

Because the owners probably said "no". They are/were "in on" a lot of guys recently, but didn't pull the trigger on most of them. That's tells me that they're pulling the purse strings tighter after the '10, '11, & '12 teams didn't get it done. Evidence of this is a lower payroll for this year. And while there will be bright spots, this team won't get it done either.

Doc's 200th will eventually come, but not tonight, against the Braves lineup.

"awh: That's confusing anecdotal causation with permanent causation."


buster, then, by definition, so is the list Sophist posted.

It's kind of like saying "For every day there is a night".

Look, I definitively stated that as far as the Phillies' drafts are concerned there is good with bad.

I also stated the real evaluation to be done is to compare the Phillies' relative success in the draft to all the other teams and see how they shake out.

So, rather than get "anecdotal" by listing specific players at a certain point in time(as Sophist did), methinks that that type of evaluation ought to be done, and ought to encompass a timeline of at least 1 - 2 decades. The Phillies draft philosophy hasn't changed in that time period.

Maybe they are one of the more successful organizations, but using an anecdotal list of players from a 2013 top prospects list is not the way to determine that. I'll also concede that cherry picking a list of Phillies' busts over the last decade and a half isn't either.

Tonight almost falls into the category of "feels so much like a loss it will probably be a win."

Maybe I shouldn't have said that.

Doc is going to win tonight...mark it down.

If you're certain that he's going to get shelled tonight, then who do you think he CAN get out?

Mayberry, Nix, Replacement Inciarte ...

Oh, you mean players on other teams?

If you're certain that he's going to get shelled tonight, then who do you think he CAN get out?

Mayberry, Nix, Replacement Inciarte ...

Oh, you mean players on other teams?

5.2 IP 6 hits, 3 runs (2 earned thanks to an E by M Young), 3 Ks, and 1 BB.

Phillies win it late on a 3 run jack by Domo.

Book it.

Since there are no consequences to doing so, I'll go ahead and say that Roy will labor and struggle through 6 innings, giving up 5 runs. BUT - the Phils will keep pace off Maholm and win the game 6 or 7-5, scoring the winning run(s) off that monster Braves bullpen. Scoreless innings by Paps and Mike Adams.

"If you're certain that he's going to get shelled tonight, then who do you think he CAN get out?"

The Astros.

Phillies payroll in:

2010: ~$142MM
2011: ~$163MM
2012: ~$180MM (if they hadn't made moves)
2013: ~$159MM (something's fishy here, though - I think it's actually higher with everything factored in)

Certainly a drop, but hardly a drastic reduction from the 2011/2010 numbers.

buster, also, because of the number of prospects on the "Top 100" list of BA, KLaw etc. all have such a high failure rate, it seems to me that the way one ought to judge the relative efficacy and success of teams in drafts is to base it on the players who actually contribute at the MLB level.

Dunno how to do that. WAR?

Total bases by hitters? K's by pitchers?

Total FIP by pitchers drafted?

HR? RBI? :)


awh - It's night and day better. Fenway used to have this horrendous smell too if they got 1-2 heavy days of rain because drainage would back up & overflow.

Kenmore/Fenway have dramatically changed too. Saw recently that they are building a huge hotel on Bolyston right outside of Kenmore. Restaurants have also done a complete 180-change too. Friend who is looking to open a restaurant in the Back Bay/Kenmore/South End area said that sq ft space has nearly 2x the last years in Kenmore Square.

When I went to BU, you had a huge methadone clinic in Kenway Square and there wasn't a single high-end eatery/restaurant directly in Kenmore Square. You had Pizzeria Uno, IHOP, and a few middle of the road smaller places.

Does anyone know the team's drafting/international spending for that time period? Are those numbers reported?

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