I hope Larud is the B team catcher and not Chooch.
Charlie said he would wait a few days before using him on defense, but a double header might alter his thinking.
Question: Supposing a team had a full 40-man roster in the big Leagues, and a postponement occurred and the team was forced in to a Double-header, would the team be allowed to call a 41st player up, lol? I suppose not, because he is not on the 40-man roster, but it'd be pretty neat.
twitty: just walked out to the portapotties every couple beers...well just once after the first 5 but then again after like every 2. The rain made the lines a lot more tolerable.
Looking forward to do it all again tomorrow, only maybe try and make it past the 5th beer next time before breaking the seal.
Flying Fish Dubbel with a Italian Diablo Primos while snacking on tostitos and homemade smoked tomatillo salsa
Kutz: I am actually OK with getting Cloyd instead of Hamels. I stand by my list of the only things to care about in 2012:
#1. DOM
#2. Aumont
#3. DeFratus
#4. Cloyd
#5. Frandsen
And now that Frandsen is hurting, I guess Mayberry in CF creeps up to #5. I know what RFD is that at the plate, but i will gladly watch him play CF for a month and see if he's really a possible option.
Every other position/player can not change me opinion for 2013 no matter what happens.
There isn't another starting pitcher on the 40-man roster. The bullpen, on the other hand, has a couple extra bodies because of roster expansion. That means it will probably be a bullpen game, with some stiff like Rosenberg starting and Savery and maybe someone else being called up to give them an extra body or two. With our AAA bullpen, it didn't work out too well the last time. But this time we're playing Houston, which has a AAA lineup. So it could actually work.
bap: If they call someone up, it might as well be a starter. Bring someone along from Reading if their year is over by then. Or have the Pig who lives closest to Houston drive over. Save the BP for the Mets, that's the team you want to beat.
Or, as I noted above, sign Moyer for one last day. Those kids in Houston have never seen him.
You freakin miserable sh8ts are already whinging about tomorrow night's game, which 98% of you suburban goons do not have tickets to nor any intention of attending.
WAAAH WAAH WAAH the big bad Phillies are stealing my money by charging for parking and concessions for a rainout! And I paid good money to see Cole not Cloyd waah waah waah.
Ignore the fact that over the measure of your lifetime the Philadelphia Phillies have given you more entertainment for your dollar than anyone or anything in this world. The Phililes have done right by the vast majority of us over the years.
I'm not sure how the Phillies come out looking bad here. Calling the game last night was in the hands of the umps, not the team. There already was a game scheduled for 1:05PM today and the people who had tickets for last night's game will be able to go tonight at 6:35PM if they want and if they can.
If, between now and Thursday, the Phils pick up two or so more games in the wild card, is there any chance of running Cole back out there on three (and a half) days rest?
1) They sweep the twinbill (very possible AND absolutely necessary).
2) MIL beats STL (which is a good possibility the way the Brewers are playing as of late).
The Cubs beating the Pirates, the Giants over the Dodgers and the Padres over the D-Backs would be nice, too. Am I asking for too much?? Yeah, I guess I'm still sippin' on the Koolaid...
Yes, Chuck, all of that could happen. The Phillies may very well move up a few notches in the Wild Card standings before the year is over. However, it's probably best not to expect them making it into the playoffs and let the season play out. Making the playoffs would be an absolute gift and not one that anyone can reasonably expect.
I posed this question on another site and I'll ask it here:
"Question: And I’ve thought a lot about this myself. If the Phils finish .500 or better was this August and September more enjoyable than last year’s August and September?? In other words, was it more exciting to watch this team scramble from 13 games under .500 at the AS Break and finish strong and not make the playoffs than to watch last year’s team as they fought to get to 102 wins and eventually lose like they did in the 1st round."
I followed it up with this:
"And let me just add that the LAST thing I want to see happen is for them to play out of their minds and miss that last wild card spot by only one game. Then I’m gonna be pissed off that it could have come down to that Valdespin game or one of the Larry walk-offs or some other game (there are plenty!) that they should have won. No…82-80 (or 83-79…remember my preference there?!) and I’m REAL happy as a Phillies fan."
It would be more exciting to miss by a game than to miss by five. I wouldn't be pissed so much as enjoying the team playing out of its mind. That would be crazy fun to watch, something you'd never forget, even if they missed by a hair. ... And every team losing games it shouldn't. That's why they play 162.
Sophist is right on. Isn't this why we watch sports? For the unforgettable moments like what happened in 2007? Why wouldn't you root for it to happen until it's mathematically impossible? It's what makes sports fun. I know it's tough counting on others to lose, but they just have to keep winning. And at the very least, winning is enjoyable.
If they cut it to 5 today, yeah, I'll be excited. Meaningful September baseball. You'd have to be a cynic not to enjoy it.
1) They sweep the twinbill (very possible AND absolutely necessary).
2) MIL beats STL (which is a good possibility the way the Brewers are playing as of late)."
Not quite right. The Dodgers would also have to lose to the Giants. If the Phillies sweep, the Cardinals lose, and the Dodgers win, we'd be 5.5 out, not 5. L.A. would have bypassed St. Louis by .5 games.
Not that it matters because the Phillies won't sweep. We've been through this sequence about 20 times this year. Literally every single time it looks like they're gonna make a run, they immediately proceed to lose 2 in a row.
It would be interesting if the Phillies decide to bring up a starter from AA or AAA for Thursday's game. I suppose there are a number of starters who would be serviceable. Ethan Martin has been very hot lately and has major league stuff. Pettibone is a possibility. Morgan is likely pitching today, so isn't a possibility. Or they could bring up one of the retreads they've been stashing in AAA all season. But they might have to move someone off of the forty man roster to make room.
Any idea who they should move off the forty man? I think the BL consensus would be overwhelmingly in favor of removing a certain player. But Charlie and Rube would never do it.
And btw, if the Phillies are actually sniffing the Wild Card by Thursday, it should be inconceivable to throw a bullpen game. Not with the suspects the Phillies have out in the pen. And certainly not with Horst fading a bit and Valdes being gone for the season. Those two were about the most reliable guys in the pen for long stretches of time.
Kevin Cooney: "Tickets for tonight can be used for the 6:35 game tomorrow.
Hamels will pitch Game 1. Cloyd will pitch Game 2. And you are more than welcomed to drop more cash for parking and concessions tomorrow."
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:05 PM
The Phils come away looking pretty sh*tty here. It's the nature of the beast I suppose. But at least we get the classic Bruntlett pic!
Posted by: Scotch Man | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Dang, there goes my chance to be the big hero!
Posted by: Mini Mart | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Eric Bruntlett - Hall of Fame reserve player for the '08 Phils (well, sorta, kinda...)
Posted by: cut_fastball | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Gnome lives!
Posted by: Bubba | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:14 PM
There are going to be a ton of no-shows at that game tomorrow night. Cloyd, terrible team (Rockies), and a school night.
Posted by: MG | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:20 PM
MG: But ... but what about the irresistible allure of the "CBP Experience"?
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:22 PM
MG: Don't forget the "B" team lineup. I'm sure Cole gets the "A" team. Scratch that thought, since Cholly's opinion of the "A" team includes MM.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:34 PM
I hope Larud is the B team catcher and not Chooch.
Charlie said he would wait a few days before using him on defense, but a double header might alter his thinking.
Posted by: Bubba | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Question: Supposing a team had a full 40-man roster in the big Leagues, and a postponement occurred and the team was forced in to a Double-header, would the team be allowed to call a 41st player up, lol? I suppose not, because he is not on the 40-man roster, but it'd be pretty neat.
Posted by: Gregm | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:50 PM
I'll be at the first game. Glad I'm seeing Hamels, but was kind of looking forward to seeing Cloyd in person.
Posted by: Kutztown Fan | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:50 PM
twitty: just walked out to the portapotties every couple beers...well just once after the first 5 but then again after like every 2. The rain made the lines a lot more tolerable.
Looking forward to do it all again tomorrow, only maybe try and make it past the 5th beer next time before breaking the seal.
Flying Fish Dubbel with a Italian Diablo Primos while snacking on tostitos and homemade smoked tomatillo salsa
Posted by: lorecore | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:51 PM
lorecore -- You's da man! I'd be dead.
Posted by: cut_fastball | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Kutz: I am actually OK with getting Cloyd instead of Hamels. I stand by my list of the only things to care about in 2012:
#1. DOM
#2. Aumont
#3. DeFratus
#4. Cloyd
#5. Frandsen
And now that Frandsen is hurting, I guess Mayberry in CF creeps up to #5. I know what RFD is that at the plate, but i will gladly watch him play CF for a month and see if he's really a possible option.
Every other position/player can not change me opinion for 2013 no matter what happens.
Posted by: lorecore | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 11:02 PM
lorecore-
Where did you rank on our age poll the other day?
In my bracket we have the beer/ portapotty trips ratio reversed.
Posted by: Bubba | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 11:18 PM
C.C. knocked Markakis out for the season. That's one way to fend off the Orioles.
Posted by: Mick O | Saturday, September 08, 2012 at 11:18 PM
I wonder who will pitch on Thursday.
Posted by: Bonehead | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 12:15 AM
Bonehead: It will be Jamie Moyer vs. Roger Clemens.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 12:42 AM
"I wonder who will pitch on Thursday."
There isn't another starting pitcher on the 40-man roster. The bullpen, on the other hand, has a couple extra bodies because of roster expansion. That means it will probably be a bullpen game, with some stiff like Rosenberg starting and Savery and maybe someone else being called up to give them an extra body or two. With our AAA bullpen, it didn't work out too well the last time. But this time we're playing Houston, which has a AAA lineup. So it could actually work.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 01:10 AM
"Flying Fish Dubbel with a Italian Diablo Primos while snacking on tostitos and homemade smoked tomatillo salsa." - lorecore
Flying Fish Dubble - one of my all time favorite beers.
Posted by: Dragon | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 01:37 AM
I came to BL today just to see the Bruntlett pic. Made my day. Hope we seep the doublheader tomorrow.
Posted by: Vonderful | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 02:26 AM
bap: If they call someone up, it might as well be a starter. Bring someone along from Reading if their year is over by then. Or have the Pig who lives closest to Houston drive over. Save the BP for the Mets, that's the team you want to beat.
Or, as I noted above, sign Moyer for one last day. Those kids in Houston have never seen him.
Posted by: Conway Twitty | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 03:44 AM
You freakin miserable sh8ts are already whinging about tomorrow night's game, which 98% of you suburban goons do not have tickets to nor any intention of attending.
WAAAH WAAH WAAH the big bad Phillies are stealing my money by charging for parking and concessions for a rainout! And I paid good money to see Cole not Cloyd waah waah waah.
Ignore the fact that over the measure of your lifetime the Philadelphia Phillies have given you more entertainment for your dollar than anyone or anything in this world. The Phililes have done right by the vast majority of us over the years.
Posted by: gobaystars! | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 04:29 AM
Wow Goba ...
How does one form such a strong opinion about something so utterly pointless?
Posted by: Will Schweitzer | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 05:04 AM
Anthony goose with his first MLB hr last night, skyrocketing his ops+ to ... 61
Posted by: lorecore | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 09:00 AM
Love that burnlett image
Posted by: Buy sell | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 09:10 AM
I'm not sure how the Phillies come out looking bad here. Calling the game last night was in the hands of the umps, not the team. There already was a game scheduled for 1:05PM today and the people who had tickets for last night's game will be able to go tonight at 6:35PM if they want and if they can.
Posted by: limoguy | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 09:21 AM
If, between now and Thursday, the Phils pick up two or so more games in the wild card, is there any chance of running Cole back out there on three (and a half) days rest?
Posted by: Bonehead | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 09:33 AM
Phils could be 5 out after today's action IF:
1) They sweep the twinbill (very possible AND absolutely necessary).
2) MIL beats STL (which is a good possibility the way the Brewers are playing as of late).
The Cubs beating the Pirates, the Giants over the Dodgers and the Padres over the D-Backs would be nice, too. Am I asking for too much?? Yeah, I guess I'm still sippin' on the Koolaid...
Posted by: Chuck A. | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 09:41 AM
Yes, Chuck, all of that could happen. The Phillies may very well move up a few notches in the Wild Card standings before the year is over. However, it's probably best not to expect them making it into the playoffs and let the season play out. Making the playoffs would be an absolute gift and not one that anyone can reasonably expect.
Posted by: limoguy | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 10:40 AM
"However, it's probably best not to expect them making it into the playoffs and let the season play out."
Why is it best? Isn't it fun to keep rooting despite the odds even if they come up short?
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 11:18 AM
If there's one thing I'm sure of, it's that Cole Hamels will not pitch on three days rest this week.
Posted by: Jack | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 11:20 AM
6.5 with 24 to play.
Posted by: Cyclic | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 11:20 AM
I posed this question on another site and I'll ask it here:
"Question: And I’ve thought a lot about this myself. If the Phils finish .500 or better was this August and September more enjoyable than last year’s August and September?? In other words, was it more exciting to watch this team scramble from 13 games under .500 at the AS Break and finish strong and not make the playoffs than to watch last year’s team as they fought to get to 102 wins and eventually lose like they did in the 1st round."
I followed it up with this:
"And let me just add that the LAST thing I want to see happen is for them to play out of their minds and miss that last wild card spot by only one game. Then I’m gonna be pissed off that it could have come down to that Valdespin game or one of the Larry walk-offs or some other game (there are plenty!) that they should have won. No…82-80 (or 83-79…remember my preference there?!) and I’m REAL happy as a Phillies fan."
What do you guys think?
Posted by: Chuck A. | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 11:25 AM
It would be more exciting to miss by a game than to miss by five. I wouldn't be pissed so much as enjoying the team playing out of its mind. That would be crazy fun to watch, something you'd never forget, even if they missed by a hair. ... And every team losing games it shouldn't. That's why they play 162.
Posted by: Sophist | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Sophist is right on. Isn't this why we watch sports? For the unforgettable moments like what happened in 2007? Why wouldn't you root for it to happen until it's mathematically impossible? It's what makes sports fun. I know it's tough counting on others to lose, but they just have to keep winning. And at the very least, winning is enjoyable.
If they cut it to 5 today, yeah, I'll be excited. Meaningful September baseball. You'd have to be a cynic not to enjoy it.
Posted by: Iceman | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 11:50 AM
"Phils could be 5 out after today's action IF:
1) They sweep the twinbill (very possible AND absolutely necessary).
2) MIL beats STL (which is a good possibility the way the Brewers are playing as of late)."
Not quite right. The Dodgers would also have to lose to the Giants. If the Phillies sweep, the Cardinals lose, and the Dodgers win, we'd be 5.5 out, not 5. L.A. would have bypassed St. Louis by .5 games.
Not that it matters because the Phillies won't sweep. We've been through this sequence about 20 times this year. Literally every single time it looks like they're gonna make a run, they immediately proceed to lose 2 in a row.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 12:11 PM
It would be interesting if the Phillies decide to bring up a starter from AA or AAA for Thursday's game. I suppose there are a number of starters who would be serviceable. Ethan Martin has been very hot lately and has major league stuff. Pettibone is a possibility. Morgan is likely pitching today, so isn't a possibility. Or they could bring up one of the retreads they've been stashing in AAA all season. But they might have to move someone off of the forty man roster to make room.
Any idea who they should move off the forty man? I think the BL consensus would be overwhelmingly in favor of removing a certain player. But Charlie and Rube would never do it.
And btw, if the Phillies are actually sniffing the Wild Card by Thursday, it should be inconceivable to throw a bullpen game. Not with the suspects the Phillies have out in the pen. And certainly not with Horst fading a bit and Valdes being gone for the season. Those two were about the most reliable guys in the pen for long stretches of time.
Posted by: aksmith | Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 12:21 PM