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Friday, May 11, 2012

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And the moves are official. Welcome Diekman, Rauuuuuuul Valdez and Luna. Nix to the DL and Sanches to wherever.

J. Weitzel: you forgot to prefix the first URL with http://

Ryan Madson in the Phillies BP would be awesome....except for the fact that he's out for the season.

I listened to Utley talk about his rehab and then talk about the team. Why do I have a feeling he's going to continue his determination to improve for the rest of the season and beyond, yet never take the field?

It's not his fault, but I still find myself feeling frustrated that he's not coming back any time soon, that it's all still very nebulous, and that we're paying him to be a cheerleader at best. Can he at least watch video of his teammates and work with them on plate discipline, approach, etc.?

And with 3 lefties, Charlie still won't use 1 as a LOOGY.

GBrett: he could replace Gross and be the hitting coach

MG said in the last thread that the Phils have never overcome a worse spot than they are in right now.

Have people just completely blocked May/June/July of 2010 out of their memories? If you need a refresher, check the BL archives for some first-class bridge jumping.

Since Sanches flopped, what member of the '07 bullpen are the Phils are going to pick up off the scrap heap next year?

El Pulpo? Gas Can? Joe Table?

If Utley can hit but can't field and they decide to give up on making him a second baseman this season, I'd love to have him on the bench as a pinch hitter beginning on August 31.

Sh*t El Pulp might do better than EL Big Truck at this point MG.

MG: if Amaro ends up a seller and produces a pupu platter for hamels like he did for Lee, then maybe us fans should hire Ugie Urbina. . .

Hard to get worked up about Madson considering he's injured, but having those numbers in the pen would be great.

"Tell me that wouldn't look good in the Phillies' bullpen right now ..."


Meh, the choice was between Madson and Papelbon, who has a 3.00 ERA right now - and IS in the bullpen.

There was no way they were going to have both, and as someone who was in favor of re-signing Madson because he was the known quantity, I view the choice as a 'push'.

Always liked Madson, though, and wish him well.

Utley coming back but unable to field would make for some great Kirk Gibson WS Game 1 potential moments.

Me and my 6 fingers are ready to pitch for you baby! Put me in your pen!

I have a feeling laid back California boy Cole Hamels (though a fierce competitor) wants to return home to southern California. I don't see him re-signing here if either the Dodgers or Angels pursue him.

The Hamels to LAD/LAA stuff is tired.

The Madson point seems irrelevant to me. a) he's injured. b) his replacement has been near flawless. Sure it would have been cool to have a healthy Madson as a set-up guy. But that never seemed like a realistic possibilty. And if he did take that role we'd just have more millions on the D.L. right now.

As bad as the bullpen has been so far, I can think of a hypothetically worse situation. We sign Madson for the reported 4/44 deal in the offseason. He gets hurt, then we have no closer in addition to our current problems.

Me and my 6 fingers are ready to pitch for you baby! Put me in your pen!

Posted by: Antonio Alfonseca | Friday, May 11, 2012 at 03:24 PM

AA - Which finger do you use to flip someone off?

If I were from SoCal and one of the teams there wanted me, I think I'd go.

Hamels had PUBLICLY stated he wants to stay in Philliy, and has gone so far as to disparage SoCal fans.

More likely, he'll get big offers from a lot of teams, not just on the West Coast.

He'll be the #1 FA pitcher on the market - a certifiable ace, WS and NLCS MVP, big game pitcher with a 3.09 postseason ERA.

Potential playoff teams (Yankees, RSox, etc.) will not have to worry about how he'll respond in the playoffs.

As far as trades - the blockbuster version- when the phillies gave up a stud, like FJenkins, Schilling, and Rolen come to mind, we always get a pile - of washed up veterans or 'can't miss' that do miss 'prospects, Larry Jackson, Vincente Padilla, and Polly who was eventually trades for UU. (I didnt even include Sanberg or Abreu) I know there are other players involved, but the point is we never get proper value back when we trade our ' superstars' away... We have a history of it,, except for Wise for Carlton trade ...

So what makes me suspicious of what the Amaron brain trust could Get for Shane or Cole...

AA - Which finger do you use to flip someone off?

Posted by: Colorado Phan

Esta conundrum!

"Hamels had PUBLICLY stated he wants to stay in Philliy, and has gone so far as to disparage SoCal fans."

I don't fully believe him. One rings up points with Philly fans when you disparage other cities and their fans. It gives him street cred.

Listening to utley on CSN yesterday, my guess is he won't be back until August, maybe, or not at all.. He's in no rush getting to 100% - If that is even achievable--

And it sounds like he won't return until he is at 100%

And FWIW, Hamels' dad/family are (or were) Bosox fans.

Nix to the DL sucks, as he was one of the few guys who has been hitting and who represents a genuine power threat. On the bright side, I'm glad to see that the roster shakeup did not involve the expected demotion of Erik Kratz. Having Kratz & Luna on the 25-man roster at the same time might just be the signature moment of my Beerleaguer career.

Let's go at this another way.........Yes!!! Cole Hamels desperately wants to return to California. So much so that he has refused any offer the Phillies have made and has made it known that they cannot re-sign him and he is sorry he was ever drafted and had to play in Philadelphia. For all the nonsense he has put up with with this fan base it's a wonder he does live in the area and seems to understand this fan base and city.

What's the line-up tonite I wonder?

Per Salisbury twitter:

Rollins ss. Polanco 3b. Vic cf. Pence rf. Wigg 1b. Ruiz c. Mayberry lf. Galvis 2b. Worley P

"Having Kratz & Luna on the 25-man roster at the same time might just be the signature moment of my Beerleaguer career"

Seriously, that's the first thing that went through my mind, proving, yet again, I spend far too much time on Beerleaguer.

If ever there were an opportunity for BAP to gloat, or be unabashedly whipped, we've just entered that specific time...

Ruiz/Worley in the same lineup????

So apparently Ruiz can only bat as high as 5th? But Polanco is back in 2nd. Lovely.


Per Salisbury twitter:

Rollins ss. Polanco 3b. Vic cf. Pence rf. Wigg 1b. Ruiz c. Mayberry lf. Galvis 2b. Worley P

Posted by: Steve

Thanks!

Yo new thread.

Phils are -155 with a o/u 7.5, give me the Phils and the over tonight, im feeling good.

Rollins Polly Vic Pence Wigginton Ruiz Mayberry Galvis is a fully RH lineup against a pretty crappy lefty in Richard who has a career .792 OPS against RHB, while Worley has one of the best starts of his career (7IP, 0R, 11K) vs San Diego earlier this season.

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