... here's the dang lineup: Pierre, LF; Orr, 2B; Rollins, SS; Pence, RF; Victorino, CF; Wigginton, 3B; Nix, 1B; Schneider, C; Worley, P. Hunter Pence, who reportedly couldn't raise his arm over his head Monday, is back in the lineup following a precautionary MRI, claiming that he feels fine and is a "fast healer." You know, like Wolverine. Pete Orr has the privelege of hitting second. He has more extra-base hits than one-hole hitter Juan Pierre, two-hole fixture Placido Polanco, and as many as three-hole hitter Jimmy Rollins. So why not? Freddy Galvis sits. He's 1-for-his-last-11 plate appearances. Wigginton, on the other hand, has been a pleasant surprise offensively. He's hitting .308/.378/.436. I'm ready for some 9:40 p.m. Phillies-Diamondbacks, Tuesday night in April magic. Are you? [Jump to the newest comments]




Definitely a win tonight. Write it down.
Posted by: Scotch Man | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:43 PM
The biggest question I can see going into this game is how likely it is that Pence will end up needing a brutally long DL stint as a result of this idiocy.
Posted by: fumphis | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Mayberry just had a 2-hit game and hit the ball very hard a third time.
I'm surprised Charlie didn't start him again tonight in LF, especially for defensive purposes, even with a RHP on the mound.
Gotta find out whether he can sustain the success.
Posted by: awh | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Starting Orr tonight vs a finesse RHP like Collmenter? Fine.
Hitting him #2? Puzzling.
Reasoning by Cholly literally is 'Polanco is out, Orr is in and will hit #2' Why not hit Vic #2, Wigginton #5, Orr #7? If he doesn't want so many LH hitters at the end of the lineup, simply put Nix #5, Wigginton #6.
This lineup stinks. It doesn't help when Cholly makes it even more challenging with a less than ideal lineup.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:46 PM
I love the wolverine standard being established to separate the men from the [insert culturally sensitive comparison].
Posted by: Hugh Mulcahy | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:48 PM
awh - Nix is a good matchup tonight vs. a finesse RHP like Collmenter. It's a solid call.
fumphis - Pretty much. Almost guaranteed the MRI didn't show any structural damage, that Pence is still hurt to some degree though & risks aggravating the injury further, and Pence is playing tough guy telling them he is ready to play in his effort to help the team.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:49 PM
I woulda done this if I 'had' to put Schneider in the lineup:
Rollins SS
RFD 1B
Vic CF
Pence RF
Nix LF
Wiggy 3B
Orr 2B
Schneider C
Worley
Posted by: awh | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:51 PM
MG,it's possible Pence has a mild sprain which improves if he doesn't use the shoulder.
The risk is aggravating it and making it much worse.
Posted by: awh | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Mayberry could have gone 4 for 4 with 4 grandslams and would still be sitting. Look how long it took Chollie to put him in last year more over Ibanez
Posted by: Easedel | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Ryan Zimmerman's out for DC? What is it w/ shoulders this week? And does he, too, possess Wolverine-like powers of healing?
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:56 PM
I know I wrote a few posts last year claiming that Jair Jurjjens would come back to Earth after his start and All Star selection.
I had no idea that he'd crater down to Earth, crash into a volcano, and get petrified in the volcanic rock. Braves demoted him to AAA.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Also, Worley may have a legitimate claim to being a more dangerous hitter than 2-3 of our regulars.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:58 PM
don't agree with awh. PA is a mid-atlantic state, not part of the northeast.
Posted by: goody | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:59 PM
goody, I have never heard of PA not being considered part of the NE. Mid-atlantic start in MD.
Posted by: Dreamer | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:03 PM
"starts"
Posted by: Dreamer | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:04 PM
although according to wikipedia, PA is both in the northeast and mid-atlantic. now I'm confused.
Posted by: Dreamer | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:06 PM
I may watch this one for shi* and giggles. Heres one and i actually believe this. Orr does most everything fundamentally right the guy just doesnt have the talent. The few AB i have seen him take, he fouls off swings when he has 2 strikes to try and foul off. He is positioned where he is suppose to be and backups plays where and when he suppose to etc. Also i can tell he is trying. U can tell when someone is trying versus just going through the motions. Especially since iam that guy that likes to go through the motions.
Posted by: Luis | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:11 PM
Man, if Darvish can improve his command, he'll be really good. He has some really great offspeed stuff, and he can pump the fastball up around 95-97.
He just made Teixera look foolish on that last AB.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:13 PM
Dreamer: You can probably divide PA into northern and southern halves for that.
Posted by: goody | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:13 PM
And he just made Swisher look bad on 3 straight curveballs. Then he got Raul on the grounder-to-2nd special.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:14 PM
The thing which I find most striking about Pete Orr is that he appears to be a fast runner ... but then, looking back, I can't seem to remember him beating out a close play at any base. Ever.
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:18 PM
PA is both a northeastern state and a mid-atlantic state with more of the state being the latter. Basically, the 'east coast', which figuratively ends somewhere between Assateague and Virginia Beach. It also has Pittsburgh, which considers itself an east coast city, but which is really the Gateway to the Midwest (in addition to being the biggest city in Appalachia and, the Crown Jewel of the Rust Belt).
Posted by: Hugh Mulcahy | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Thanks to Hugh and goody for the clarification...Beerleaguer: Come for the baseball discussions, stay for the the geography lessons
Posted by: Dreamer | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:21 PM
I hear that G-town. I think he is quick but i dont think he possesses that type of speed.
Posted by: Luis | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Link on the right says Dontrelle is filing a grievance against the O's.
Posted by: awh | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:28 PM
People are carping about Mayberry not playing against a finesse RHP who has a really good changeup (the one offspeed pitch that Mayberry really struggles to hit)?
Ridiculous. Its a bad matchup and starting Nix is an easy call tonight.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:28 PM
MG, carping? WTF is carping? And do you even read what other people post?
(BTW, I find it hillarious that you, of all people, accuse oters here of carping.)
Posted by: awh | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:31 PM
Dreamer: I come for the baseball and the laughs, but you can get a well rounded education on here on everything from legal opinions to scrapple.
Posted by: goody | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Another night, another quality start for 49 years young Jamie Moyer.
6 IP, 1 ER, ND.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:34 PM
NEPP, it appears Moyer can still pitch, no?
Posted by: awh | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:35 PM
awh - "Mayberry could have gone 4 for 4 with 4 grandslams and would still be sitting. Look how long it took Chollie to put him in last year more over Ibanez"
The numbers and matchup favors Nix pretty strongly tonight. That's all.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Looks like it, awh.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Its hard to argue against starting Pierre in LF when he's basically the only guy on the team currently hitting.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:41 PM
What is Pierre thinking about, running against a catcher with a good arm? He seems to have a knack for running himself into outs.
Posted by: GBrettFan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:42 PM
My dislike of Juan Pierre grows stronger by the moment.
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:42 PM
No comment, other than "no comment."
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:42 PM
But then he does something like that and makes you want to drive him off into the Pine Barrens and leave him for dead.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:42 PM
Anybody remember the scene in Major League on Opening Day when Willie Mays Hayes gets a single to start the season, and Uecker says something like "maybe it's a good omen" and then Hayes immediately gets picked off.
I kinda just felt like that.
Posted by: phatti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:43 PM
Yet another Phillies half-inning with less clock-time than the commercial break.
Posted by: DH Phils | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:43 PM
The only real question in my mind was whether he'd get picked off, or caught stealing. There were no other options.
Posted by: Scott | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:43 PM
"The only real question in my mind was whether he'd get picked off, or caught stealing. There were no other options."
Yep. The second he reached base, I told myself, "He's going to try stealing and get caught by a mile."
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:44 PM
8 pitches.
There is zero chance UC will stop starting Pierre. His speed is laughable at this point. Every single SB attempt this year as been either super close for a questionable safe call or he's out by 5 feet.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Trying to steal against one of the best throwing catchers in MLB. Ugh.
Juan Pierre Intangibles Rating - Low.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:45 PM
The good news, however, is that we've assembled the best defense that money can buy for Worley tonight.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Rollins will snap out of his 3 for 30 funk. Pierre will never be a base stealer again. This guy is 3 for 5, officially, with a pickoff that should make him 3 for 6. In reality, he was out two other times. It's pathetic watching him run. Guy has to pick his spots alot more judiciously.
Posted by: Hugh Mulcahy | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:46 PM
3 SB, 2 CS (1 pickoff) for Pierre.
As Red Foreman would say, 'You dumba$$.'
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:46 PM
I guess that whole "Ruiz is allowed to catch Worley" thing in SD was a fluke.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:46 PM
"Juan Pierre Intangibles Rating - Low."
Juan Pierre's intangibles are so bad they're actually tangibly bad.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Probably the most valuable thing Orr will do all day.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Schneider has to start some games, so they may as well be games Worley pitches when there's a righthander pitching for the other team, right?
Of course, it would be better if Schneider wasn't on the team, but he is.
Posted by: phatti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:49 PM
The Phillies should look around at all the empty seats so they will be prepared for what CBP will look like in September if they keep playing like this.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:50 PM
phatti - Exactly. Schneider needs to start at some point & if Worley likes working him so be it. Good a time as any to start him especially with a RHP on the mound.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Remember last year when a bunch of people said we should trade Hamels for Upton and we made fun of them?
Hmm...
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:52 PM
I really don't remember Pence always going after that high fastball last year. Is this a new, unwelcome development, or am I just forgetting things?
Posted by: phatti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 09:56 PM
Ho hum.
Crappy lineup is crappy.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Sometimes you just have to tip your cap when you face a Cy Young quality pitcher like Collmenter.
Nothing you can do.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:01 PM
Gelb: "Hunter Pence's injured shoulder has not affected his ability to chase pitches out of the strike zone."
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM
DBacks announcers trying to wrap their heads around the concept of BABIP.
Posted by: fumphis | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Pence probably feels like he's the only threat in the entire lineup and he is thus pressing.
You'd think he'd be used to that after playing in Houston for so long.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Hey, at least we had two warning track fly balls and a just foul home run... maybe something good will happen.
Posted by: phatti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM
phatti- Pence is just trying to model his hitting after others in the Phillies lineup. ( Swing and keep on swinging).. I think he has accomplished his goal.
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Sadly Ransom would look good on our bench.
Posted by: Bill | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:07 PM
They get shut out tonight by Collmenter over 8 IP and it is time to waive the white flag offensively.
Only went 8 IP in 1 start last year. Did go several times 7 IP last year but only held a team scoreless twice in in 24 GS.
Posted by: MG | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:07 PM
I love the new mlb.tv audio overlay function, but if it ever needs to buffer, it resets the audio feed to the television. The timing on the latest glitch was perfect as I came in just as TMac botched Wheels mlb.tv plug.
/watching on my own MacBook Proooo.
Posted by: joe l | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:08 PM
ransom was on our bench once/// did we release him last year or the year before?
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Nice hit, Nix!
Posted by: GBrettFan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Finally someone hits a rocket, over an outfielder's head, and he can't even make it past 1B. Unfortunate.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Nix should really be batting a lot higher than 7th. He could even bat cleanup in this lineup.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM
nice hitting by nix, and really fleet of foot
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM
And he drives one deeeeep ... for a single.
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Maybe start using Nix in LF vs RHP over Idiot McCaughtStealing?
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM
We've actually hit the ball hard tonight, but have had some bad luck on Wigginton's foul ball, Shane's near-miss, and now this.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Worley needs bunting lessons.
Posted by: GBrettFan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM
well placed bunt..
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM
On Collmenter: He had some really great stretches last year. That being said, he sucks.
On Pierre: Where is Davy Lopes?
On Scrapple: Ketchup. mmm
Posted by: Brett | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM
When Pierre is up, I actually root for him to reach base on an error -- thereby helping our scoring chances without increasing his batting average or OBP.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Scrapple can taste good...if you fry it really hard and then use a bunch of ketchup.
I'm going to go buy scrapple tomorrow now as I havent had it in a good 10 years and for some reason, one of the grocery stores up in VT carries Hatfield meat and usually has scrapple.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I prefer horseradish on my scrapple (& eggs). Tabasco is a solid fallback.
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Podsednik must cringe at the thought of Pierre in the majors -- really stinging the ball and burning up the base pads.. while he's in the minors..
soon- he will eligible to be picked up by a ML club -- and then he'll probably come back to burn the Phillies
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Well, tabasco makes everything better.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM
nepp - tabasco should help the phillies offense
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM
***tabasco should help the phillies offense***
Well, it could help the pitchers get a little bit more movement on their pitches.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Let's eat: Pods is hitting .200/.313/.200 in the minors, so not exactly tearing it up. He's 3 for 4 on stolen base attempts, so at least there's that.
Posted by: phatti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Scrapple is great- I don't care what gets put into it. If it is made right- much like any meat- it doesn't need anything put on it.
Posted by: The Truth Injection | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM
This Darvish start has been the best pitching performance I've watched so far this season. He is eating this Yankees lineup alive. His curveball, tailing fastball to lefties and his cutter to righties...reminds of Doc on a good night.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Pete Orr, on-base machine.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Funny story, I benched Darvish in one of my FBB leagues.
Oops.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM
pods - was tearing it up in ST.. fwiw
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Clutch as always, Jimmy.
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Finally!!!
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:32 PM
I've got that guy on my fantasy baseball team!
7 points!
Posted by: sdphillie | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:32 PM
HOME RUN PAYOFF INNING!
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Wait, we're allowed to hit the ball over the fence? Maybe they should send a memo to the rest of the team.
Posted by: phatti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:33 PM
PENCETASTIC!!!
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:33 PM
pence!
should have been a 3 run homer - mr rollins
Posted by: lets eat | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:33 PM
NIXINGTON!
Posted by: HammRadio | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Wiggy's had a nice start to the season. He'll come back to Earth, but hopefully he can keep this up and help this stagnant offense win a couple games.
Nix is swinging a HOT BAT!!
Posted by: Fatalotti | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM
How scary is it that Wigginton has been our most consistent hitter this year?
Posted by: NEPP | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM
HOME RUN PAYOFF INNING!!
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM
my goodness, what gives?
not that I'm complaining...
Posted by: sdphillie | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 10:35 PM