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Tuesday, January 10, 2012

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Nice write-up Drew.

Hamels looking at a 1 year deal per Salisbury. Bye cole, i'll miss ya lotsz

I liked Madson. I'll miss him. Be interesting to see how much less than Papelbon he signed for. Probably about $44m less

I wonder if Papelbons 50 million deal and no long-term deal for Hamels are related.

I'd certainly have rather waited and re-upped Madson for 1 year, 10 mill and signed Hamels longterm than have signed Paps to that deal.

But we don't know if those things are related.

Also, the Reds should be pretty good next year. I like them to compete with the Cards for the Central.

Good deal for the Reds. I figured tehy were hot on Madson when tehy let their closer twist in teh wind with him.

Going to miss Ryan Madson. Definitely a key, underrated figure in this great era of the Phillies. Thanks for the memories, Ryan!

You have to wonder what happened that caused the Phils to sign Paps to that huge contract while Madson has to switch teams and take a one year deal, especially when it was reported Madson was about to sign. At least the Phils get a couple of draft picks.

Well, here's hoping for Kerry Woods. Definitely would be a good signing right now.

Definitely like the Reds to win the Central now. Madson and Marshall is a great righty/lefty combo. Brewers and Cardinals both suffered major losses. Rest of the division is eh. Reds have really put together a great win now offseason without breaking the bank.

Sorry to see Mad Dog go. Always liked the kid. I wish him luck.

When the luxury tax threshold didn't go up, the amount teams like the Red Sox were willing to spend dropped. (Even the Yankees aren't shopping this off-season.) The first thing to go was a need for an experienced closer. Too bad the Phils signed Papelbon before the new collective bargaining agreement.

I didnt think i could disslike the papelbon deal more till this deal. Rube whiffed on the market.

I wonder if Papelbons 50 million deal and no long-term deal for Hamels are related.

I'd certainly have rather waited and re-upped Madson for 1 year, 10 mill and signed Hamels longterm than have signed Paps to that deal.

But we don't know if those things are related.

Posted by: Jack | Tuesday, January 10, 2012 at 11:57 PM

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I agree with you, Jack!

You give me 8.5 million dollars and I'll never work another day in my life. He should be happy with what he got. I guess Cordero is still on the free agent market with the Madson signing.

Chooch, Howard, Utley, Rollins, Vic, Cole, Kyle, Joe. Brad?

Pouring one out for Madson, he will be missed.

I'll miss Madson. Ah, fate. Painless lesson learned by Madson. I suspect he'll rearrange his partnerships. WTF is the draft compensation. You would think Phuture Phillies would get it right. Are they optimistic over there?

let's not jump to the conclusion that Paplebon means no Hamels long term. Likely not the case.

Well f u ruben, your philosophy back fired.

I think the Reds' first-round pick is protected. If so, the Phils will get a sandwich pick and a second-round pick from the Madson signing.

"If he struggles or gets hurt in 2012, then yeah, it's basically the end of the world." For sure.

Would really like to know the story behind why he did not end up with the Phillies when they seemed right on the verge of a multi-year deal.

Black helicopter/guys in trench coats theory: Rube had the Papelbon deal brewing at the same time the offer was made to Madson. When Boras didn't sign his client on, Rube deep sixed Madson and went to Papelbon, delivering, in his mind, (1) an elite closer to the Phils for not all that much more money; and (2) a strong Scarface/ Sosa "Don't you ever f*&# with me" message to anyone dealing with him in the future.

Anyway, best of luck to Mad Dog (other than when the Phils play the Reds), I wanted him back on the Phils.

A sad day. I've always liked Madson and I hope he shows all the yahoos that said he wasn't a CLOSER that closers are just good/great pitchers who end games.

Mrs. Madson should really enjoy Cincinnati.

It's incredibly hard for me to feel sorry for a guy who just signed a deal to make 10 times more than I will make in my lifetime for 1 years' work.

Cincinnati, the jewel of Southern Ohio.

I was all ready to poke fun at DPat saying Rube is only offering Hamels a one-year deal assuming he heard it from his 'source.' Then I read on the sidebar that it's true. I guess you have to start somewhere, but if I were Hamels I'd be insulted.

Given that I hated the Papelbon signing as soon as it happened, I'm not sure there are adequate words to describe how I feel about it now with what Madson ended up getting.

Nice job by Ruben of setting the market again.

***if I were Hamels I'd be insulted.***

If I were Hamels, I'd be picking out apartments in the Upper East Side...

bbeard: "let's not jump to the conclusion that Paplebon means no Hamels long term. Likely not the case."

You are right, there is no way to know. But I find it very plausible that Hamels and Phils could be within $40M of each others offers, which is what the difference between what Papelbon and Madson are guaranteed.

"he did a little bit of everything - starting, pitching in middle relief, pitching in a set-up role, closing. You name it, Madson did it"

There are a ton of great things you can say about Madson's phillies tenure, so not sure how his failure as a starting pitcher should have any business being mentinoed.

"a man who deserved a better contract than he received, "

aka: a man who deserved a better agent than he chose

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