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Wednesday, December 14, 2011

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Ouch, 42% is steep. Would be a tough time for the Phils to go over the tax for the first time. I imagine they'll do all they can to avoid that.

T-Mac on a random April day in 2012: "Kendrick's doing a fine job getting the ground ball, unfortunately Yuniesky is having some trouble with them. How' bout that!"

Better budget to work in another bottle of Glenlivet on my trips to the state store. Next season could be tough.

Blanton was pretty much a bust. I dont blame RAj for offering him the contract. The deal and the money was about right for what was then the Phils 2/3 starter.With no to almost no injury history. Unfortunately Big Joe was a dud. On top of that i dont think we will get much for him unless he bounces back and proves to be at least a 3/4 guy.

If you were a bourbon man, you could budget for an extra bottle of Blanton's, which you will be needing for the early innings every fifth day.

The Blanton contract was the result of Amaro being caught in a bad situation with the Halladay / Lee deals looming and the decision on whether or not to tender Blanton. There was, at the time, a team like the Angels, for example, could outbid the Phils for Halladay.

Is the 42% taxed on whatever exceeds the cap, or is it on the whole shebang? I mean, to start with 42% * $178MM = like a gazillion clams. If they go over a buck, do they pay 42 cents or a gazillion clams?

Over, but it will be worth it. My prediction - Blanton and Kendrick show up to ST weighing 225 lbs. apiece and dominate in FL.

They need to relocate the front office to Gibraltar or the Caymans. Surely there is a tax work-around. I mean they gave whatever Blanton and Contreras and Schneider make in charitable giving.

You only get taxed on the amount over the threshold.

Agreed.

Phillies still in on Cuddyer. So we take Scutaro as a stop gap + Cudyyer for 3 years for close to $30 million instead of J-Roll at 4 years + opt. Hmmmm... Then what about Polanco? I say keep him and move to 2nd when Utley goes down. That gives us Nix/Mayberry/Vic/Pence/Cuddyer for outfield and Wigginton/Cuddyer/Howard/Utley/Stop-gap SS/Valdez/Polanco/ in the infield? Thoughts.

Shedding Blanton's salary would be the icing on the cake for the offseason. We all blamed Amaro for an assumed perfunctory effort to move Blanton before shipping off Lee. But it would seem that given 2 days or 2 years, no one particularly wants Blanton. Certainly not when he was injured last year despite the desperation of teams like the Yankees for Starting Pitching.

Surely, no one will consider Blanton until he demonstrates some degree of health. Maybe after an acceptable Spring Training and no injury setbacks in the early season, some other team's injuries will accept a desperate salary dump of Blanton.

Then Worley slots at 4 and Kendrick slots at 5 and the rotation salaries are better balanced.

Blanton is Lieber all over again. Everyone assumed you could trade him, but no one seems to want him.

Slocs,

Cuddyer is a good hitter, but where do you play him? He's deaf in his left ear, so he has played a total of 15 games on the left side in the past 6 years: 14 at 3B, and 1 (2 innings) in LF.

The fact that the Phillies pursued him must mean they think that can be overcome with hand signals, but the point is he hasn't tried that very much.

(sorry for reposting, I keep coming late to the party)

I Victorino is yelling "I Got It!!!!" will the sound not travel around Cuddyer's head and into his right ear?

^^^If

***I Victorino is yelling "I Got It!!!!" will the sound not travel around Cuddyer's head and into his right ear?***

Actually, no it really wont. Its similar to talking to someone directly behind you while you are facing forward. Yeah, if you yell loud enough they'll hear you but with other ambient noise levels from the direction of your good ear, it could easily get drowned out.

I keep hearing the "legally deaf" argument against Cuddy playing LF. Not only does Bowlcut make a good point (in that sound waves don't hit the side of one's head and stop - even with someone with a head the size of Polanco's), but Tyson Gillies, another legally deaf OF, hasn't had any real communication issues, and he's deaf in BOTH ears. I think the "legally deaf" argument is a bit overblown here on BL.

If there's anything stopping the Phillies from grabbing Cuddy to play him in LF, I'm sure it's something more than his hearing proficiency. If anything, being deaf at CBP might actually be a blessing.

I don't think the Phils are still in on Cuddyer; if you read the Tim Brown tweet linked from MLB Trade Rumors, that's mere speculation on Brown's part:

("Hearing Seattle is also in on Cuddyer. That makes Rockies and Mariners, maybe still Phillies...")

If Rollins signs elsewhere, Amaro has clearly "lost" this offseason--he pursued J-Roll like he was a must-have player while Cuddyer, Ramirez, and other options signed other deals. If Rollins resigns, the offseason is a draw--Rube upgraded the bench but didn't do anything about the offense and let Oswalt walk. We'll go into 2012 with depleted pitching, an improved bench, and the same old offense; we can still hope for a division title but not much else.

AT: "we can still hope for a division title but not much else"

Well if that's the case I might as well not even watch them at all in 2012.

Considering that we're up against the luxury tax threshold, and will be for the foreseeable future, it would make absolutely no sense to give an expensive 3-year deal to a player who plays the only position on the field where we already have a cheap, viable starter. In fact, if that cheap, viable starter comes anywhere close to his 2011 performance, he's not only cheaper, but significantly better, than Cuddyer.

I thought the new CBA set the tax at 22% for first time "offenders" and
42% for subsequent "offenses" given that assumption going 3 mil over
the 178 mil mark would be about 600k, not chump change but given
the full payroll it is pretty small. Also it would probably only be for one year
til Blanton, Polly etc roll off next year. So raise the price of beer and
peanuts a quarter and that will make it up.

I think its 22% for the first and then 42% for subsequent. Meaning if you go 178+ 178+, then you get taxed for the 2nd year, but if you go 178+ 177 178+ then you would get taxed 22, 0, 22. Correct me if I'm wrong.

*you get taxed 42% for the 2nd year

AT: "we can still hope for a division title but not much else"

Well if that's the case I might as well not even watch them at all in 2012.

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Why in the world would that be the case? Once in the playoffs every team has about the same chance of advancing

Every team that doesn't have a manager named Charlie Manuel. Let's face it--Cholly has one offensive strategy: wait for his hitters to knock it out of the park. He is what he is, and if he continues with this approach in the playoffs (as he's done every year; he could get away with it in 2008 and 2009, but 2010 and 2011 showed how his strategy fizzles with a less dynamic offense), this team will not make it to a pennant let alone the World Series. There are only two ways to fix this problem--replace Charlie, or give him more home-run hitters. The first solution seems far easier and cheaper, but since no one seems interested in it, the other alternative is trying to stock the lineup with sluggers.


Every team that doesn't have a manager named Charlie Manuel. Let's face it--Cholly has one offensive strategy: wait for his hitters to knock it out of the park. He is what he is, and if he continues with this approach in the playoffs (as he's done every year; he could get away with it in 2008 and 2009, but 2010 and 2011 showed how his strategy fizzles with a less dynamic offense), this team will not make it to a pennant let alone the World Series. There are only two ways to fix this problem--replace Charlie, or give him more home-run hitters. The first solution seems far easier and cheaper, but since no one seems interested in it, the other alternative is trying to stock the lineup with sluggers.

Posted by: AT | Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 08:31 PM

Wow!

Does Luke Scott get more than Wiggington in free agency? Phils only have to pay $2M + $500k buyout since Colorado splits his 2012 salary.

Scott is much much better hitter than him, even coming off an injured year.

Salisbury twitter: Reports out of Japan say 2 clubs are pursuing Phils' reserve OF John Bowker. One club is Yomiuri, which recently purchased S. Mathieson.


GOOD GOD NOOOOOOOOOOO

Cyclic:
You beat me to it. If the Phils get a sushi roll in exchange for Bowker, I'd say the Phils got the better end of the deal.

Luke Scott, even by MLB baseball standards, is a complete whack-job. No thanks. We'll have enough fun dealing with our new closer's *eccentricities*.

I'm not convinced that Rollins is gone, but the situation is a bit of a friggin' mess. My prediction, based on the assumption that if he leaves he's probably turning down the best offer he has...he re-signs in a few days. He backed himself into a corner with the whole 5-years-or-bust position and has no one to blame for that but himself and the enabling of his agent. If his reps led him down this path, I doubt they'll be too encouraging of him if he ends this by trying to take a cheaper deal out of spite.

And I agree with BAP about not replacing Mayberry in left with Cuddyer. Howard and Utley's health will be keys to next year, as much as anything else with the offense.

"If the Phils get a sushi roll in exchange for Bowker, I'd say the Phils got the better end of the deal."

You're aiming high. I'd settle for a nigiri. Hell, I'd settle for a bowl of the edamame beans that they sometimes give you as an appetizer.

If Luke Scott came to the Phillies I would boo him daily and Rollins would probably punch him in the face by May. The city and his teammates would destroy him.

No offense, but if there's a facebook like button, it'll be much easier for me to share.

The only posters who think the Phillies will sign Cuddyer are the ones who don't pay attention.

Remember when all those people said we needed to be more like the Cardinals?

Yeah about that...

The Cardinals are nearing a one-year deal with free agent left-hander J.C. Romero, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). MDR Sports Management represents the 35-year-old reliever.

I'm still trying to make the Boston case on the Melancon deal and I just can't do it.

Even if you take the most negative view possible of Lowrie -- He'll always be an injury problem, he'll never hit RHP, his walk rate won't ever improve -- you still have to concede that he's got an above average glove at 3 positions, kills LHP and is better than half the starting SS in the NL. Plus you're giving up Weiland, a 25-year-old back-of-rotation innings-eater type with a hard sinker and 3 other pitches that, while mediocre, he can throw for strikes.

And all you're getting is a 27-year-old reliever who's got a couple good pitches but no killer out pitch and thus is very dependent on good command. He had it last year and was very good, but he didn't have it in 2010 and was rather mediocre.

I'll be very surprised if the Astros don't end up winning this trade.

NEPP: I think that's great because we can now keep a running tab during the season to see whose BB/9 is higher: Romero or D-Train. I predict a close race in the 6-7 region.

I agree that it will be close...though I think D-Train will beat him on K/BB ratio.


On the Lowrie deal...maybe Boston has other reasons to get rid of him. They've never felt he's a legit SS defensively which is why they've kept Scutaro around. Perhaps he's also part of their clubhouse issues? There has to be more to it than the talent as they seemingly lost that trade on a talent standpoint.

Romero vs. D-Train BB/9 -- my money is definitely on Romero.

Dontrelle was "only" 4.40 in the majors last year, and also 2.39 in 75 AAA innings. 3.40 combined.

I'll be tuning in. Thanks for the heads up!

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