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Sunday, September 25, 2011

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Yo new panic thread.

Is it October 1st yet?

Will this streak affect their play?
Wili it not?

We'll found out.

Let's get the playoffs going already. I'm getting a little bored here.

This is why you never let your foot off the neck of your opponent until the season is over. Giving breaks physically and mentally sounds all well and good, but the Phils were on a major roll and should have just kept chugging along right through the playoffs. Rest after the season.

The Phils are probably doubting themselves now and anyone who faces them in the playoffs suddenly isn't as intimidated as they were a week and a half ago.

The bullpen is pretty bad aside from Madson. Lidge is still wild and hittable. Bastardo looks cooked. Stutes has been good for 2 months.

The rotation is still good 1-3 (Halladay, Lee, and Hamels), but this offense sucks. #1-5 in the lineup are either in huge slumps (J-Roll, Vic, Utley) or hurt (Howard/Pence).

The magic switch ain't there and the Phils seemed f*cked!

I won't scream for blood. I will be quite disappointed, and stunned in spite of this late season skid. I'll feel really bad for the guys who've never won it all & likely won't be back: Oswalt, Ibanez. For Lee & Halladay, too.

But I don't see the reason to scream for blood. They tried and were going great guns for a long time. They will be as disappointed as we, I believe.

Forgot to add: IF they get bounced in the NLDS. I haven't written them off.

I see 2 differences between an early Phillies exit this year and the McNabb Eagles

1) This group has actually won
2) McNabb was a feeling of underutilized skill/untapped potential. This Phillies team may well be a heavyweight fighter past its' prime. Age catches up to even the best of us.

Be totally honest: how much of your outlook has changed because of these 8 games? If you thought they were, say, 50 pct favorites to win the WS, what do you think they are now?

I'll start: I thought they were about 20 percent to win the World Series two weeks ago, and I still think they're 20 percent. Nothing has changed.

If bounced, we'll all be back as fans. But a major trade might be needed from the nucleus. As for this streak, they're having some bad luck as happens in most of these streaks. Line drives off the pitcher turned into outs, that catch on Rollins ball yesterday,etc. And, lack of focus w/ Chooch / Hammels on Hammels decision to challenge Pascucci when his changeup was lights out. They need their #1 to throw a shutout today. Is it fair to Doc, no - but its needed.

Yep, Hammels, Holliday and Madsen are just a few players I trust right now.

IMHO,
A classic Bowa snap is needed by somebody.

hmmmph, still not worried. maybe i should be, but i'm not.

mind-numbing

There are no must win games in the regular season,then why is today one?

If we knew that after clinching, the team would play subs, lose some energy and play 3 doubleheaders, no one would been that shocked for the team to go 3-5. The difference between that record and 0-8 is bad, of course, but not really so huge in the bigger picture.

Split the final 4, boys.

Doc to stop the bleeding. Offense goes bonkers and roles reinstated including The Bastard with a clean hold.

(Mr. Halladay) Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

I'd take 2-2 to close it
out

This is not blip; it's a contagion. If it continues and they are bounced out of the first round of playoffs, watch out. What may follow next season could be deep drop in attendance and key players (Rollins, Madsen,Oswalt) not returning. There is much at stake here for this franchise.

I rarely make predictions, but here's where they reel off 4 wins to grab the club record and mollify ye of little faith.

I know people sometimes don't like to discuss intangibles because they aren't things that can be statistically backed up. However, when you clinch pretty much everything with 10 games to go in the season it is hard to keep up the intensity until the last out of Game 162. The Phillies aren't even playing for best record in the NL at this point which has been locked up for a few days.

At this time of the year everyone is banged up. There isn't a guy on any playoff bound team that is 100% healthy. So being able to give a guy like Howard or Pence a breather for a little bit is always going to be a good thing because it may buy you a few extra games from them.

I very highly doubt that the Phillies all of a sudden doubt themselves. Also, I think any team that is thinking, "This team is going to be very beatable in the playoffs," is going to get easily rolled out of the playoffs.

What have we learned about the bullpen that we didn't know a month ago. We knew Madson was our solid thing in the pen. We knew Bastardo and Stutes were pitching well but may be due for some kind of regression. We knew Lidge can be a wild card. The Phillies think they have the problem with Bastardo fixed (they believe he was tipping his pitches). Stutes looks good right now and Lidge has been fine since coming back.

I think it's foolish to flip out about the team and tag its toe because they have played sluggish in a week where they are playing for nothing and thus have no motivation. Anyone doing so is just engaging in worrying for the sake of worrying.

The fate of the franchise hangs in the balance?

Lose perspective much?

sure, if the phils lose early in the playoffs the team will be dismantled, the owners will sell, and CBP will be turned into the world's biggest Walmart.

If they don't win they won't be able to afford to maintain CBP and it will crumble faster than the vet.

well, gobay, first you start by downsizing the grounds crew. you're telling me it takes 8 dudes to roll out the tarp? then you make ballgirls unpaid interns. you could probably use some single A guys to do stadium cleanup. finally, eliminate the foam finger vendors. nobody buys those anyway. that should save enough to keep the place going for another year or two.

So what team will everyone switch to rooting for when the Phillies organization ceases to exist after this season? We should start a poll and get some choices.

TTI, the Astros have the most former Phils. they would be the logical choice, plus their losing ways would remind us all of what it used to be like around here.

conshy: That would be a good choice. I'm thinking it may be time to jump on the Orioles or Nationals bandwagon though. Both teams would be close to go to home games and the Nationals would still allow me to root against the hated Mets and Braves.

Quoting Mainerob and his rants in this blog? Beerleaguer sinking lower than the Phils, I see.

So much easier to spout doom and gloom than to be objective and acknowledge that this streak is not necessarily a harbinger of a poor postseason showing. If the Phillies fail well you can stand up tall and say I told you so. If the Phillies prevail you can get lost in the crowd of all the other revelers. Enjoy the parade and don't worry I won't sat I told you so.

I shouldn't bite on your unkind post, Old Phan, so I won't. At least I've got insight and respected opinions, Old Phaht.

The Phils are probably doubting themselves now and anyone who faces them in the playoffs suddenly isn't as intimidated as they were a week and a half ago.

The bullpen is pretty bad aside from Madson. Lidge is still wild and hittable. Bastardo looks cooked. Stutes has been good for 2 months.

I will be quite disappointed, and stunned in spite of this late season skid. I'll feel really bad for the guys who've never won it all & likely won't be back: Oswalt, Ibanez. For Lee & Halladay, too.

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