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Joe Blanton regularly goes the distance w/ the post game buffet, however.

"And are we so sure Worley is pitching so far over his head that he'll never have more value than now?"

Yes. Same exact question was asked about KK and about Happ. The answer was the same then as it is now. They were, and Worley is, pitching over his head. Simple as that.

I said it in the previous thread and I'll say it here: a healthy Blanton > a healthy Worley.

Ibanez since May 3rd:

285 PA, .289 AVG/.309 OBP/.807 OPS, 18 2B, 1 3B, 13 HR, 44 RBI, 35 R

Other than not walking much, he's been pretty solid overall for nearly half a season now.

Maybe you can help me out with this J.W. but I seem to recall a faction of minor league arms in the Phillies system in the light 90s I believe who many thought was a new core of lights out pitching on the horizon and then they never went anywhere. Not one of them. Do you remember what I'm talking about? Their names escape me but someone wrote an article about them in the past few years.

Worley would give the bullpen in the playoffs but I don't understand why people think he would be a great setup man.

- Does he have 'swing and miss stuff?'

No. 5.5% rate which is well-below the 8.5% MLB average.

- Does he have a plus offspeed pitch to get outs or a blazing fastball?

No and No. His slider is probably his best offspeed pitch at this point but it isn't anywhere near the caliber of Bastardo or Lidge's slider. His fastball is average too at 90. Assuming he could dial it up from 91-92 it helps but not a real difference maker at say 94-95.

Contrary to what Clout might state, there has been a fair amount of research that has come out lately that relievers who throw at less than 90 MPH on their fastball have some high FIPs.

- Does he have an ability to get Ks?

No. His 6.69 K/9 is below 7.02 K/9 MLB average. Assuming he could rear back a bit more I doubt his K/9 rate would increase that much.

- Does he have great command?

No. His 3.41 BB/9 is below the 3.14 BB/9 MLB average.

I would like Worley more out of the pen than say a KK or Herndon but he isn't an ideal setup guy either.

I would say that Worley's upside could be that of a healthy Joe Blanton. His current ability is something less than that. Which is all I said the first time. Blanton's peak was a somewhat lucky 124 ERA+ season at Age 24. He's always been very inconsistent as a starter with good year, bad year, good year, bad year type of crap.

Jack: But can the Phillies afford to trade a SP who is pitching effectively right now for, say, an OF whose playing time would be subject to the fickle nature of Charlie's lineup card? Considering the uncertain nature of Oswalt's return, & the fact that such a move would all but guarantee Kendrick a spot in the rotation for the rest of the season, I must answer w/ a resounding "NO!"

When was Blanton ever the "innings eater"?

It seems clear to me that Rube would like to have his cake and eat it too. You could do nothing and still have the best team in baseball. However, just because you're the best team in baseball doesn't mean you will win the WS. He needs to weigh the future against trying to bulletproof this team's World Series chances. Nothing would be better than winning this year and still having Worley, Domo and all of our touted prospects still in the fold. As has been pointed out a lot around here, with a load of 20 million dollar a year players on the roster, you do need a few $400,000 guys too. Simple mathematics. I can't ever remember so many major league minimum guys making such an impact on a contending team. It's a very cool thing to watch.

johnnysanz: when a runner initates contact with a player possessing the ball - a direct tag with the glove is not needed.

And anyway - he DID tag him! Get a new TV if you watched the replay 5 times and still think it wasn't that bad of a call.

And on top of that, there was still a 3rd out to record that inning, so the catcher made the play and focused on the baserunners. You are more messed up than your crappy TV if you think its the catcher's job to bearhug the runner at the plate after tagging him to make sure the ump gets the call right while runners take extra bases in the 19th inning.

that Drebin scene is one of my favorites of all time.

some Mayberry talk. i found this quote by Heather to be interesting:

"I have no idea if his newfound hitting ability is attributable to luck, a new batting stance, a "new batting stance" or something else."

b/c we all know that a change in batting stance can't possibly lead to significantly different results. see Bautista, Jose.

(btw, i liked your thinly veiled steroid joke with the quotes Heather. very clever and funny)

i'm really just kidding about this, but this guy is really killing the ball since he's changed his stance. he's covering the whole plate now, and roping everyting he sees.


i have no idea if he can keep this up, but how freaking awesome would it be if he can?

"I said it in the previous thread and I'll say it here: a healthy Blanton > a healthy Worley."

It remains to be seen whether that statement is true as a general proposition. But it's sure not true in the present, specific context. In the present context, Worley is pitching great. You don't remove a locked-in pitcher from the rotation because of a theory that he can't keep it up. And you sure don't remove him for Joe Blanton.

In Kentucky Joe's defense, Vanimal doesn't appear to skimp on the buffet, either.

I must have been napping during the games that Blanton ever looked as good as Worley does now.

BAP, I can't argue about Worley's current results. But if I knew with 100% certainty Blanton would be healthy next year, I would certainly bet he'd outperform Worley, which was the point I was trying to make.

Blanton pitched about 200 innings 5 times in 7 seasons, which makes him an innings eater in my book.

Ibañez's Splits:

April - .161 BA/.247 OBP/.218 SLG/.466 OPS

May - .315/.339/.602/.941

June - .211/.258/.311/.569

July - .293/.312/.547/.858


Also,

Home - .292/.329/.523/.852

Road - .194/.246/.309/.555


With 16 Road games, & an "off" month due, August is shaping up to be a sad time for Raul. And all of us.

The only thing that is more certain than Worley regressing is Blanton ever being referred to as 'healthy' unless its an adjective of his appetite.

At this point the deal that might make the most sense would be marginal prospects for a decent LOOGY to replace Perez. Randy Choate seems like the perfect guy. Pettibone/JC Ramirez type guys might get it done.

"In Kentucky Joe's defense, Vanimal doesn't appear to skimp on the buffet, either."

Really? I don't think Worley looks fat at all. Blanton, on the other hand, is a few buffets short of Bartolo Colon.

It would sure be fun if a guy like Worley, with great early success, but lousy periperhals, were actually able to put together 3 or 4 good seasons in a row. It would force those of us with strong sabermetrics-oriented views to totally reformulate our thinking about which measures explain & predict success.

Unfortunately, it probably won't happen. Worley will probably fall and I tend to agree with DIP that, when it happens, it may well be a lot uglier than the "back-of-the-rotation" numbers to which most of us see him reverting.

At this point, its debatable as to whether Blanton will EVER be an effective pitcher again. He's missed all season with an elbow/nerve issue that no one can properly diagnose, he's expected to miss the rest of teh season and there isn't even a return date. He's not recovering from TJ surgery or something. Its a mystery nerve issue. Sounds basically like we'll never see him in uniform again. But dont worry, we'll still be paying him 7 figures next year.

http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/obvious/

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/27/2296871/braves-pirates-umpire-jerry-meals

It was a close call. Catcher barely touched him. But it's ok. We are better umpires than actual umpires and he actually wanted to go home, even though he is a well paid umpire probably doing what he loves.

But dont worry, we'll still be paying him 7 figures next year.

r00b's worst contract.

I agree that benching Ben Fran and Valdez has helped the offense, but that doesn't preclude the Phils from upgrading the bench that these two guys now occupy roster spots on.

In the playoffs, having a capable PH option is very important. While relegating these stiffs to the bench helps the regulars, it means that our bench is now occupied with offensively-challenged filler.

Hell, the Nats upgraded their bench with Gomes, and they're 10 games back in the Wild Card with 7 other teams in front of them.

***even though he is a well paid umpire probably doing what he loves.***

No no no, he clearly took a job where he has to constantly travel mroe than 6 months a year and be hated by almost everyone simply for the money. He must HATE what he does.

How much do Umps even make? It cant be all that much.

Anyone know if the team still gets dinged against luxury tax for some/all of a player's salary if insurance is paying a contract?

BAP, pitchers like Matt Cain already have the SABR crowd adjusting their assumptions and theories. Also, SF pitchers sport ridiculously low HR/FB rates, even on the road, for almost a decade running now.

DIPs theory predicts what is most likely to happen, and never guarantees that anything WILL happen. Worley could certainly keep this up (well, not a 2 ERA, but you know what I mean) and I don't think it would totally shake the foundation of DIPs theory.

"It was a close call. Catcher barely touched him. But it's ok. We are better umpires than actual umpires and he actually wanted to go home, even though he is a well paid umpire probably doing what he loves."

The tag aside, the travesty was that Meals called Lugo safe BEFORE Lugo even touched home plate.

The more Blanton rots away somewhere, the more his contract resembles Adam Eaton's, in being a total waste of money.

Then again, you could make the argument that it's nicer to pay him to sit around on his couch (are we sure he's still alive?), than to pay him for mediocrity and taxing the bullpen. Having Worley and Kendrick perform they way they are in his absence sure doesn't hurt.

Insurance doesnt affect the Tax one way or the other...and I dont believe Blanton's deal was insured actually.

"It would sure be fun if a guy like Worley, with great early success, but lousy periperhals, were actually able to put together 3 or 4 good seasons in a row. It would force those of us with strong sabermetrics-oriented views to totally reformulate our thinking about which measures explain & predict success."

Matt Cain has defied some of his peripherals and it hasn't forced the saber guys to say that fielding independent pitching metrics may be flawed and need re-evaluation...so I wouldn't hold my breath on Worley, either.

For fun, I'll take Worley's 5.5 swinging strike % and show you how similar pitchers have done in 2011.

1. That 5.5% would tie him for 7th worst in the league in between Paul Maholm and Kyle McCellan - Obviously, Worley doesn't have enough innings to qualify. Also, swinging strike % is one of the first things to normalize, so I would argue Worley's sample is fine.
2. Worley is striking out 6.69 per 9 innings while Maholm sits at 5.43 and McCellan at 4.47.

Word is the White Sox have traded Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahan to the Blue Jays for Jason Frasor and a prospect.

The Blue Jays will then take Jackson and someone else and send him to the Cardinals for Colby Rasmus.

That's a really nice job by Anthopoulos to get Rasmus in all this, and I can't believe the Cardinals gave up on Rasmus.

NEPP, per this site, it's a wide range (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/umpires/feature.jsp?feature=qa4):
"Professional umpires currently begin their Minor League career at $1,800 per month. At the Major League level, salaries range from approximately $84,000 to $300,000 per year."

AA is proving himself to be the best GM in MLB. where did he go to college?

Rasmus to Bluejays...guess that explains the Edwin Jackson trade now.

Another nice move by AA.

I will never - NEVER - tire of Blanton fat jokes.

John Mayberry was traded for Greg LOLson, so there's that.

also, the worst part of the whole thing with last nights game was that Meals had called the runner safe BEFORE HE TOUCHED THE PLATE.

asinine.

don't look know but when utley heats up, the piece gets huge, and when he gets rather large, there will be no stopping this pitching laden team. sorry bravos, ya'll just aint as good as us.

boston on the other hand scares the bejusussusus out of me.

LaRussa HATES Rasmus...that trade should work out about as well as the Yunel Escobar deal worked out (Ironic that AA is the mastermind of both, eh).

Best GM in Baseball right now.

"The Blue Jays will then take Jackson and someone else and send him to the Cardinals for Colby Rasmus. "

Why on earth do other GMs let him get away with highway robbery? Edwin Jackson sucks. We could've given the Cards a better package than that and stuck Colby Rasmus in LF for the next few years.

Jeebus.

ESPN.com says Lincecum will pitch tonight

Evidently the new moneyball is picking up talented players that egomaniac coaches can't get along with.

Worley reminds me a bit of Kendrick in 2007. Granted, Worley's numbers in ERA, WHIP, etc are better, same with his peripherals (WHIP/H per9/HR per9/K per 9/BB per 9/K-BB Ratio)
1.093/6.4/0.4/3.4/6.7/1.96

Worley is getting an incredible H/9 rate of 6.4, well below the NL average of 8.6. The best of the Phillies starters (next closest is Cole Hamels at 6.9). This is counter-balanced by his increased walk rate, but I don't see how he's going to keep this up long term. Even Halladay's and Lee's career H/9 rate are 8.7 and 9.0 respectively. The walk rate is below average for the National League (3.2/9) but not egregiously so.

I have no idea how Worley is going to perform down the stretch. I do think he'll regress at some point but it's a question of when. Certainly he should be relegated to long relief in the bullpen when playoffs arrive. However, given Blanton's injury, they should keep him on the team.

Hunter Pence may be a pipe dream. If we get him without giving up Worley or Brown, I'd be OK with it, but I strongly doubt Houston is going to let Pence go unless they get one of those 2 players in return. Do we need Pence? Well, we need an RH bat certainly, as neither Francisco or Mayberry has effectively filled in the RF spot.

I think it's more likely we trade for Willingham as an LF platoon with Raul.

The issue with Rasmus is that he would've been left handed and we have plenty of that.

Still though- how many times does Edwin Jackson have to be traded before people realize he just isn't anything like the #2 starter people thought he would be.

Anthopoulos has done a nice job of getting pieces for their team and farm system. Morrow was a nice addition to the main roster last year and Rasmus will be a nice one as well. D'Arnaud was a good piece and he turned Michael Taylor into Brett Wallace into Anthony Gose- the latter of which is having a pretty nice season in Double A.

I think the need for a bat stems from last year's postseason, not from the early days of this season.

with McCann likely out for a few weeks, I have to beleive the Braves are going to ramp up their attempts to trade for a bat.

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
No-trade clause important issue. Beltran going where wants and all indications are that is #Phillies #Giants. Would have be sold (cont)
on #Braves #Rangers and, remember, his relationship with Jeff Wilpon is iffy at best

There's no point in trading for a straight platoon LF because there's no way Charlie will play him as such. The price of a potential OF bat should be weighed against the odds he'll not be used often enough to make it worthwhile.

Considering Rasmus would likely replace Ibanez in the lineup, the whole LH issue is moot.

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
I preface this by saying I find it odd, but 1 #Mets exec tried sell me idea if Beltran traded to #Phillies, could hurt #Braves (cont) and help #Mets longshot playoff chances even with Beltran gone #doubtful

I actually wouldn't be suprised if Beltran ends up on the Phils if for no other reason than Beltran twists the Mets' arms and the Phils don't have to give up much.

Heather, that'd be great because its yet another player that is trying to come to Philly whether through forcing a trade or taking less money in FA.

For the record, I hate #hashtags.

#that #is #all

Sorry to hear about Blanton's health but I won't miss seeing him pitch. Reminded me way too much of Lieber especially over the last 1+ years. Picture I really didn't like to pitch live either even though I have seen him at least 5-6 times the past few years.

Those who think that Worley is no better than a healthy Joe Blanton are delusional. Blanton stinks and Worley has been terrific. What more does he need to do to prove himself better than Fat Joe? As for the Phils need to add an impact righthanded bat, those with short-term memory loss are unrealistic about the team's offense. Despite their recent run of good offense, they can and will revert to their previous mode of no run production. I would not hesitate a moment to deal Brown or, yes, even Worley to add Pence's bat to the lineup. While I value Worley's contribution, Amaro should seize the opportunity to land one of the better players in the NL in Hunter Pence.

Hitman, the Phillies have scored 4.75 runs per game since May 23rd, which is 2nd in the NL over that time span. In the 45 games prior to that, they scored 3.82 runs per game.

So, we have 57 games of a 4.75 run production with a (mostly) complete and healthy lineup vs. 45 games of 3.82 run production with an incomplete lineup missing its best hitter over the past 7 years. Which sample should we trust?

I say we trust the larger sample with the complete lineup that includes Chase Utley.

In that regard, there's no reason to believe the offense is going to "revert to their previous mode of no run production."

Hitman, forgot to mentino that May 23rd is when Utley rejoined the team.

If the Whitesox are starting to trade off pieces for prospects, I'd like to know the price on Carlos Quentin.

Would the Offensive contribution of Pence be enough to offset the loss of a SP who has, to this point, been highly effective? I doubt it very much.

Supposedly the Astros want a top pitching prospect for Pence. That would be Cosart, not Worley and not Brown.

Honestly, I'd give up Cosart for Pence without too much issue.

NEPP: As would I.

So Toronto turned a better than average reliever and a prospect with mid-rotation upside into Colby Rasmus and an iffy corner infielder? So that'd be like Stutes & Colvin?

" seems clear to me that Rube would like to have his cake and eat it too. You could do nothing and still have the best team in baseball. However, just because you're the best team in baseball doesn't mean you will win the WS. He needs to weigh the future against trying to bulletproof this team's World Series chances."

Donc~ I agree with this part of your statement. Last year's Giants were not the best team in baseball.

The need for a RH bat for this team is not for another hitter, it's for balance in the lineup.

Cosart for Pence? Yes.

I would like to get Pence more than anything to solidify the outfield for next year, but as far as improving this year's club in a dramatic way, I just don't think he's going to do that much (other than improve our RF defense).

Fact is, of all the NL playoff teams, we have the best pitching, and of the teams who have pitching that can be compared to ours (Giants/Braves), we have a much better offense. Of the team's offenses who might be slightly better than ours (Cardinals/Brewers), we have much better pitching.

We are the heavy favorites to get to the WS as far as I'm concerned. Is Pence going to tip the odds against the Yankees or REd Sox? No, so don't subtract from this year's club to bring him in, and don't sell the farm.


"Supposedly the Astros want a top pitching prospect for Pence. That would be Cosart, not Worley and not Brown.

Honestly, I'd give up Cosart for Pence without too much issue."

Me too. I salivate over Cosart's upside, but it seems he gets injured a lot.

I think the Phillies will make a move for Pence if Beltran winds up going to the Giants.

"Would the Offensive contribution of Pence be enough to offset the loss of a SP who has, to this point, been highly effective? I doubt it very much."

Going forward, you don't get credit for his past performance. You get everything going forward.

That said, 3.99 xFIP is much higher than his ERA but it's still impressive for a 23 year old, the same way .249/.338/.405 is impressive for a 23 year old outfielder.

If I had to, I'd give up Worley for Pence, but I think trading for Pence makes a lot more sense if you don't give up anyone from the major league team. I'd give up any of the A-ball arms without hesitation.

Although for the record I think any trade that Philadelphia, in particular, makes for Pence would have to be a clear win for the Astros to prove wrong accusations that the Astros have become nothing more than Philly's AAA system.

Quentin is actually of more interest to me than Pence. Pence is undoubtedly the more consistent and more rounded player, but Quentin has more power and more upside. I can't imagine Hunter Pence ever having a season as good as Quentin's 2008 season.

"I think the Phillies will make a move for Pence if Beltran winds up going to the Giants."

Just a gut feeling but I don't think Beltran will go to the Giants unless Philly isn't involved. Let's see...for a guy with bad knees, which is better, patrolling CBP's corner outfield or the Giants' cavernous RF?

I think acquiring Pence would hurt the development of DOM. Therefore, I say bad idea and we don't need him.

This offense is doing just fine. Sometimes, the best move is the one you don't make.

The price for Rasmus ends up being Edwin Jackson, Octavio Dotel and Mark Rzepcynzki. So basically a middle starter and 2 relievers.

Stupid move by the Cards.

The Twitter is saying that Matt Cain will start tonight.

"I think acquiring Pence would hurt the development of DOM. Therefore, I say bad idea and we don't need him."

Meh. Even if Dom is sent down to AAA after acquiring Pence, Dom is definitely going to be a starting OF next year. One extra month or two in AAA isn't going to make or break his career.

Giants beat reporter says Cain tonight, probably Vogelsong tomorrow.

"The Twitter is saying that Matt Cain will start tonight."

Cool. ESPN was saying earlier it was Lincecum but if the guy was out with a stomach bug he probably needs a day or two to rest anyway.

Why would any sane person in the Astros organization allow them to trade Hunter Pence for a single A prospect?

Dom can play in LF with Ibanez as a part-time bat with Pence in RF.

Worley is having his one time through the league good times. Let's see what happens when the Braves and Mets are batting against him next time. Trade him while you have Ed Wade in the league.

Cosart straight up for Pence? Or maybe throw in a second tier prospect as well? Heck yes. I think Cosart is going to be special, but I'd do that in a minute.

No way Wade would take that little for Pence.

And as for the Cards taking Jackson for Rasmus, I would be that Dave Duncan can get more out of Jackson than his previous pitching coaches. At least, I wouldn't be against him.

And it's interesting that the legend of LaRussa as a jagoff keeps growing. He's made more tactical mistakes against just the Phillies than even a guy like Freddie Gonzalez, and that's saying something. He couldn't get along with Rolen, while he was playing in baseball heaven. And now Rasmus. Wanna bet Rasmus does just fine playing in Toronto? Give me Charlie Manuel managing any day of the week over LaRussa.

DPAT: Exactly right about the Giants. I meant to include that fact. They were clearly not the best team yet they won fair and square. The point being that even if Rube goes all in and makes us even more formidable, anything can happen once you get to the post-season. I agree with Fats. We should be looked at as a prohibitive favorite to reach the WS, assuminig no major injuries. But that is assuming a lot. We've already had our share of injuries. Actually more than our share and, as has been pointed out here a million times, we aint the youngest team in the league. That's why I would rather keep Brown and Worley. As for the kids in Clearwater, if they can make you stronger now Go For It! Cosart for Pence? Hell Yeah!

***The Astros want a "very top pitching prospect" for Pence, tweets SI's Jon Heyman, and the Phillies are trying hard. However, Heyman says most believe Pence will stay put.***

Basically screams Jarred Cosart, our supposed "off the table very top pitching prospect". I suppose they'd want another 2nd tier guy in there too...maybe a Michael Schwimer type, etc.

HAHAHAHAH, NEPP, yeah Charlie would play DOM and platoon Raul. Yeah okay.

"That said, 3.99 xFIP is much higher than his ERA but it's still impressive for a 23 year old, the same way .249/.338/.405 is impressive for a 23 year old outfielder."

DH, that's not entirely accurate. Pitchers and hitters develop differently, and pitchers are far more likely to have a good year early in their 20s and then get worse than hitters, who generally get better up to their 27th and 28th years. Said another way, it's extremely unlikely Dom's best year is this one, but there's a pretty good change this will prove to be Vance's best year.

Weitzel posted:

"Since Chase Utley's return, the offensive engine has motored along just fine, even with the on-and-off contributions of All-Stars Shane Victorino and Placido Polanco."


Fatalotti posted:

"Hitman, the Phillies have scored 4.75 runs per game since May 23rd, which is 2nd in the NL over that time span. In the 45 games prior to that, they scored 3.82 runs per game."


Both of the above are true.


To that I would like to add this:

Since May 23rd, with Chase Utley IN the lineup [53 games] the Phillies have averaged 4.87 RPG.

Fatti is absolute correct:

Offensively, the Phillies are a different team with Utley in the lineup.

"Give me Charlie Manuel managing any day of the week over LaRussa."

I admire LaRussa's willingness to think outside the box at times, but I agree. LaRussa seems like such a jerk I would rather have Manuel. And that's saying alot.

Yeah, I know Cyclic...stupid thinking on my part. Ibanez will be the starter regardless.

NEPP, actually, given the state of the Cardinals starting rotation and bullpen, trading Rasmus for that is a good move. They're clearly banking on Jackson filling in for Westbrook and also providing some insurance if any of their front 3 is hurt.

Also, the Cardinals bullpen is weak. They have good relievers but lack a dominant closer. Dotel is a good reliever who's closed for Oakland, Houston, and Pittsburgh, doing a good job each year. And Rzepczynski has been a pretty good lefty reliever, certainly better than Trevor Miller this year.

STL is leading the NL in scoring this year but they're also just below league average in runs given up (444 to 429). They traded their 5th best hitter to shore up their bullpen and their rotation. I'd call that a win.

LaRussa is also a drunk...so there's that.

When Polanco comes back, who thinks Dom or Ben Fran get sent down and Mayberry stays with the big club?

I think Charlie has seen enough of Mayberry to think he might be a poor man's Jayson Werth. The kid hits with some power, runs the bases really well and his defense is actually a little better than Werth. He covers a little more ground than Werth did, although we don't know if his arm is as good.

I'm wondering if Mayberry is this year's buy low guy who turns into a real player. He was amazingly raw when the Phillies picked him up, both in the field and at the plate. And new he's become the anti-BenFran. He's a player who is equal to the sum or his parts, unlike Ben, who has always been less than.

And Mayberry's fielding improvement portends well for Dom. If he goes down, whoever worked on fielding with Mayberry should do the same with Brown. Fielding is the great glaring weakness in Brown's game.

Dom can play in LF with Ibanez as a part-time bat with Pence in RF.

Posted by: NEPP | Wednesday, July 27, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Brown has only 8 career minor league games in LF. Other than a few games in CF early in his ML career, he has been exclusively a RF. He has been bad defensively in RF, the position he has played for his minor league career. Why would you expect him to suddenly play left field during the stretch run?

•Beltran is not going to the Rangers, tweets Rosenthal. The Giants are his presumed frontrunner.
•Giants starter Jonathan Sanchez could go to the Mets as part of a Beltran trade, tweets Sherman.


Why would the Giants trade Sanchez for a rental?

I agree, Godfather. Its a good Win now type of move for the Cards. It'll hurt them more next year than this year. It shored up their two biggest weaknesses.

Mayberry has always been a pretty good defender.

"That's why I would rather keep Brown and Worley. As for the kids in Clearwater, if they can make you stronger now Go For It! Cosart for Pence? Hell Yeah!"

Hell yeah 1,000 times over. What everyone has to remember is that prospects are prospects. If you have a chance to get a proven hitter like Pence or Quentin you do it. Beltran is proven, but 34, Serious injury history and a 2-month rental.

I've been lamemting the need for a RH bat since Werth left, again jsut for balance in the lineup. If it doesn't happen and we get beat in the playoffs or Series, then it's coulda, shoulda....

Amaro would only have himself to blame. But the biggest thing here is that he can't let his ego get in the way. He must do the right thing.


Ben Fran will be sent down. No question.

RFD has been Mr. XBH.

Worley is having his one time through the league good times. Let's see what happens when the Braves and Mets are batting against him next time.

Worley started once against the Braves last year, only pitched in relief against them this year.

Has started 3 times vs the Mets this year, 2nd time was bad, so maybe some truth there, but 3rd time was alright.

GRAB - Beltran agrees to an extension?

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