I think Mathieson will be here until Sunday. Then he will be sent back to Lehigh, so he can resume his transformation back to a starter there.
I think Carpenter comes up by Sunday. He has flourished out of the pen at Lehigh and can pitch multiple innings as a long man/mop up guy. That is really all the Phils need, since this is/was Kendrick's bullpen spot.
Since Carpenter threw 40 pitches last night, there was no need to bring him up tonight. He wouldn't be available anyway. Mathieson was scheduled to start tonight, so he's ready to go.
This is also a golden opportunity for Herndon. He will now for sure be taking Contreras spot, as a late inning RH.
Only thing left to do is DFA Baez and bring Schwimer up. Schwimer would be perfect to take over as a ROOGY, since he is so tough on RH hitters.
Plus that would thrust DeFratus and Aumont into main roles in Lehigh's bullpen. So you could see how they both do against AAA competition in high leverage situations.
"One of 2010's breakout prospects, the Phillies' Jonathan Singleton has had a fairly quiet first half with high Class A Clearwater, having moved back to first base after a trial in left field. His week was shortened by the FSL all-star break, but even so the 19-year-old belted three home runs and two doubles while batting .571/.667/1.357 (8-for-14)"
I've seen mentioned many times by the beat writers that Dubee does not believe in LOOGYs and ROOGYs and that Charlie is old school enough to not care either. It's a philosophy thing for them. That doesn't mean they won't play matchups, but they'll never approach anything close to LaRussa!
Derek: Having three aces, even if they're not hot going into the playoffs still instills a lot of confidence in me for a couple of reasons:
1) I can't name a WS threatening team with three guys who would outperform our three, especially when including their likelihood of all being hot at the same time verse ours.
2) Regardless of whose "pitching well," I can think back to many cases where Lee, Hamels, and Halladay have all reached back and shown that they are gamers. I'm counting that for something.
3) A fourth pitcher in the playoffs is almost a luxury at times. If everyone does their job and takes the lead in the first three, then you can afford to start a fourth starter against the other team's fourth. If not, then we'll throw one of our horses back out there.
Schneider is calling an awful game. Worley should not be trying to get cute on the first pitch. The A's simply will not swing at a first pitch near the edges of the zone.
Considering the caliber of the pitcher they're facing, the first 4 innings of this game represent the single most horrific offensive performance in a season filled with horrific offensive performances.
wes: With 2 of our starting pitchers out indefinitely, and absolutely no one in the minors who is qualified to pitch in the major leagues, there is 0 percent chance that Worley pitches beyond the 6th inning, even if he still has a no-hitter.
Pretty sure Vic would have played that ball much differently if there hadn't been a no-hitter in progress. Diving & turning a single into a double could easily have been costly.
I do not get how a team of veterans like the Phillies have such a miserable time adjusting to pitchers they haven't seen before. How about one at bat and then gaining some advantage? At least the no-hitter is gone. Thank goodness for that.
This offense continues to top itself in futility - they follow a game where they were shut down by a 1-7 pitcher with a former bullpen pitcher with limited experience totally shutting them down.
Great discipline by Brown? Um, no. More like lack of aggressiveness. One game where he hit two homeruns being the exception. Otherwise, not so much. I'd like to see him take a hack at the first pitch for once. He is like an automaton, just like Mayberry: take the first pitch strike and then try to get out of the hole.
Who was writing off Singleton? Not the experts. He's only 19 and making the necessary adjustments. In this current case, it's mostly attitude at the plate.
A bunch of people have been ripping him of late. A hot few days and he's basically right back up where we hoped he'd be for a 19 year old in a pitchers league.
If you were an A's fan, I can imagine that this is a pretty dull team to follow. Honestly not one guy in their lineup tonight you really want to see hit.
Interesting that the rookie has had a couple very good at bats tonight - showing patience while drawing one walk and now getting a hit, he's made the pitcher work. Meanwhile the vets are swinging away.
The contradictions in the complaints on BL are bizarre sometimes. Most of the time people are railing on how this team isn't patient enough (which is true). Now mainerob says one of the few guys on the team that works the count, Brown, isn't aggressive enough? Make up your minds.
For a split-second I thought that was Thome.
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:13 PM
These are the A's splits:
Road - .227/.293/.326 (.619 OPS) and that is playing with a DH in all but handful of games.
vs. RHP - .233/.301/.332 (.633 OPS)
Their best power hitter is on the DL (Willingham) and really not any SB threats besides Crisp and Weeks.
A lineup where their leading HR hitter will have 5 HRs (Suzuki, DeJesus) and they will likely have 1 regular above .260.
No reason that Worley gives them anything less than say 6 and 2 tonight against this
'dink-and-dunk' offense.
Posted by: MG | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:21 PM
Me too. It does look a bit like Thome.
Posted by: gobaystars! | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:22 PM
No reason that Worley gives them anything less than say 6 and 2 tonight against this
'dink-and-dunk' offense.
Posted by: MG | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:21 PM
BL jinx alert! Worley will now turn in a 2 and 6 effort.
Blame MG for the loss.
Posted by: No1 | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:25 PM
I think Mathieson will be here until Sunday. Then he will be sent back to Lehigh, so he can resume his transformation back to a starter there.
I think Carpenter comes up by Sunday. He has flourished out of the pen at Lehigh and can pitch multiple innings as a long man/mop up guy. That is really all the Phils need, since this is/was Kendrick's bullpen spot.
Since Carpenter threw 40 pitches last night, there was no need to bring him up tonight. He wouldn't be available anyway. Mathieson was scheduled to start tonight, so he's ready to go.
This is also a golden opportunity for Herndon. He will now for sure be taking Contreras spot, as a late inning RH.
Only thing left to do is DFA Baez and bring Schwimer up. Schwimer would be perfect to take over as a ROOGY, since he is so tough on RH hitters.
Plus that would thrust DeFratus and Aumont into main roles in Lehigh's bullpen. So you could see how they both do against AAA competition in high leverage situations.
Posted by: denny b. | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:26 PM
As great as a ROOGY sounds, Cholly doesn't use LOOGYs correctly, so I wouldn't think he would be any better with a righty.
Posted by: Mego | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:37 PM
Schneider = Anthony LaPaglia
Posted by: Rails grandpa | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:51 PM
Rails grandma? Is that the loveparent of Raul and Nails?
Posted by: Anonymous | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 05:56 PM
I am trying to get used to the iPhone.
Posted by: Rai grandpa | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:03 PM
It doesn't save the entry? That's rough.
Posted by: Anonymous | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:08 PM
Ah, the ultimate welcome for a BL gameday thread: Brian Schneider.
Feels like a pop out.
Posted by: philwynk | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:15 PM
Only other Schneider gameday thread (April 26) was a loss to the D'backs.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:29 PM
Also from the Baseball America hot sheet:
"One of 2010's breakout prospects, the Phillies' Jonathan Singleton has had a fairly quiet first half with high Class A Clearwater, having moved back to first base after a trial in left field. His week was shortened by the FSL all-star break, but even so the 19-year-old belted three home runs and two doubles while batting .571/.667/1.357 (8-for-14)"
Posted by: CJ | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:43 PM
Re: LOOGYs and ROOGYs
I've seen mentioned many times by the beat writers that Dubee does not believe in LOOGYs and ROOGYs and that Charlie is old school enough to not care either. It's a philosophy thing for them. That doesn't mean they won't play matchups, but they'll never approach anything close to LaRussa!
Posted by: CJ | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:44 PM
The Phillies have enough Singletons. They need a Doubleton, or a Tripleton, or a Homerton.
Posted by: GTown_Dave | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:46 PM
Derek: Having three aces, even if they're not hot going into the playoffs still instills a lot of confidence in me for a couple of reasons:
1) I can't name a WS threatening team with three guys who would outperform our three, especially when including their likelihood of all being hot at the same time verse ours.
2) Regardless of whose "pitching well," I can think back to many cases where Lee, Hamels, and Halladay have all reached back and shown that they are gamers. I'm counting that for something.
3) A fourth pitcher in the playoffs is almost a luxury at times. If everyone does their job and takes the lead in the first three, then you can afford to start a fourth starter against the other team's fourth. If not, then we'll throw one of our horses back out there.
My concern for the playoffs does not rise much.
Posted by: Phanatic Phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 06:47 PM
Correction to earlier post: Oswalt had an MRI today, via the broadcasters.
Posted by: J. Weitzel | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:08 PM
You know you're playing Oakland when the first batter doesn't even take the bat off his shoulders until the sixth pitch.
I hope we have plans for long relief.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:13 PM
Worley at 18 pitches already... 2 outs although he also had two potential double play balls (one hit too soft, the other was a hit and run).
Posted by: CJ | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:17 PM
I'm willing to bet that the Phils don't even get through half of those 27 pitches in their half of the inning.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:20 PM
27 pitch first inning. I'll be happy if the Vanimal can get through 6 tonight. Looks like Mathieson might get to test out his "starter stuff" tonight.
Posted by: CJ | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:21 PM
A nice, clean 87-pitch first inning.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:21 PM
MG - The main reason Worley won't get a 6 and 2 is pitch count.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:22 PM
Over under on Phils half? 12 pitches.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:23 PM
I think Howard just swung at balls 4 and 5.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:31 PM
bap - Your point?
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:32 PM
Is Schneider from Northampton proper or from, like Hokendaqua or Weaversville or something?
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:32 PM
Schneider is calling an awful game. Worley should not be trying to get cute on the first pitch. The A's simply will not swing at a first pitch near the edges of the zone.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:34 PM
18 pitches.
Much better.
Sort of.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:40 PM
Worley is yeah...hope he settles in on his pitch count.
Good to have Schneider back because at least he'll block the motherfvcking plate.
~imagine 2nd line as if Sam Jackson said it~
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Meet the Phils wives tomorrow at 5:30PM at CBP. Will Werth show up?
Posted by: goody | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Way to go Dom.
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:46 PM
Goody, I think the real question is "Will Jen Utley show up?"
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:53 PM
Nice inning, Vance.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:54 PM
What is wrong with Rollins that he has to swing at the second pitch if he's been patient enough to avoid the first?
Posted by: Andy | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 07:58 PM
Andy: He looked at strike 3 twice last nite. Nothing will get past him tonite.
Posted by: goody | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:03 PM
Singleton continues to roll in Clearwater: 2 for 3 tonight and 10 for his last 14.
His OPS is up to .800 again.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:12 PM
Howard has no clue when he's down two strikes. I just look away from my computer.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:16 PM
What did Sarge say about Polanco? He works the count and gets walks? Huh?
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:17 PM
What a pathetic offense! Fire GG.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:18 PM
Considering the caliber of the pitcher they're facing, the first 4 innings of this game represent the single most horrific offensive performance in a season filled with horrific offensive performances.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:19 PM
I see I've literally missed nothing. This offense is going to cause much pain and heartbreak before its over.
Posted by: curt | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:20 PM
well stated, bap
Posted by: wes covington | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:22 PM
I also see that Worley is still pitching like he's getting paid by the pitch.
Posted by: curt | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:24 PM
bap: Oakland Beerleaguer is probably saying the same thing.
Posted by: goody | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:27 PM
Could they ask anymore of Worley, well he could've thrown less pitches but he gives up no hits/runs in 5 innings.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:29 PM
First team to get a hit, wins.
Posted by: denny b. | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:29 PM
"I also see that Worley is still pitching like he's getting paid by the pitch"
I like that one. Nice, Curt.
Posted by: Phanatic Phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:29 PM
Worley's haircut: cruel form of hazing or something he pays a stylist to do?
Posted by: rauls grandpa | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:29 PM
if worley is in the 7th, pitching a no hitter, with 147 pitches, do you leave him in?
Posted by: wes covington | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:29 PM
goody: They SHOULD be saying the same thing.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:30 PM
Looks like 2 days rest were good for Raul.
Mathieson warming up, game over.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:30 PM
I can't wait to tell the future grandkids about the night I watched the Great Worley/Moscoso duel of 2011.
Posted by: rauls grandpa | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:31 PM
One thing that Brown has shown so far is great plate discipline for a rookie.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:33 PM
anyone watching this online for free somewhere?
Posted by: nick | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:33 PM
Brown needs to run.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:34 PM
Guillermo Moscoso, the American League's next Walter Johnson, is throwing a no-hitter against the mighty Phillies in their Bandbox.
Impressive.
Posted by: philwynk | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:34 PM
predicting a Worley HR
Posted by: Phanatic Phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:36 PM
d'oh
Posted by: Phanatic Phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:36 PM
Was that popup Worley hitting or Martinez pinch hitting?
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:37 PM
If Brown wasn't in the lineup looking at 20 pitches a night every opposing pitcher would be odds on favorite for a CG.
Posted by: curt | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:38 PM
wes: With 2 of our starting pitchers out indefinitely, and absolutely no one in the minors who is qualified to pitch in the major leagues, there is 0 percent chance that Worley pitches beyond the 6th inning, even if he still has a no-hitter.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:38 PM
Who was the last Phil to throw 2 back to back shutouts before Lee? Was it Brett or Millwood?
Posted by: rauls grandpa | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:40 PM
Vance Worley, the National League's next Don Drysdale, is throwing a no-hitter against the mighty Oakland A's.
Impressive.
Posted by: philwynk | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:42 PM
Matsui doing it to us again.
Posted by: clout | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:43 PM
bap- just cracking wise. 6 will be more than enough regardless of hits allowed.....which is now moot.
Posted by: wes covington | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:43 PM
Nice effort by Vic but that ball just died/tailed away.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:43 PM
Schneider calling for a third straight fastball on 0-2? Come on.
Posted by: Iceman | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:43 PM
I hope Worley doesn't go home and clear his yard with a tractor after this game.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:44 PM
Great effort by Worley tonight...a shame our offense blows.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:44 PM
Pretty sure Vic would have played that ball much differently if there hadn't been a no-hitter in progress. Diving & turning a single into a double could easily have been costly.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:45 PM
Hahaha, Wheels didn't wanna say "who shouldn't have a no hitter".
Posted by: Andrew | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:48 PM
Possibly the hardest Polly has hit one this week.
Posted by: curt | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:49 PM
I do not get how a team of veterans like the Phillies have such a miserable time adjusting to pitchers they haven't seen before. How about one at bat and then gaining some advantage? At least the no-hitter is gone. Thank goodness for that.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:49 PM
it's amazing that matsui can run with that planet of a head on his shoulders.
Posted by: wes covington | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:51 PM
This offense continues to top itself in futility - they follow a game where they were shut down by a 1-7 pitcher with a former bullpen pitcher with limited experience totally shutting them down.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:51 PM
The offense was much better under Milt Thompson...they should fire GG and bring back Milt.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:51 PM
Utley and Howard are having some seriously pathetic ABs tonight.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:51 PM
Howard turning over his hands on that swing guarantees just what he did: groundout.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:52 PM
Shame Worley couldn't throw strikes early or he could have gone 8 tonight. Something he has to work on is his control early in games.
Posted by: MG | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:54 PM
Great discipline by Brown? Um, no. More like lack of aggressiveness. One game where he hit two homeruns being the exception. Otherwise, not so much. I'd like to see him take a hack at the first pitch for once. He is like an automaton, just like Mayberry: take the first pitch strike and then try to get out of the hole.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Singleton is 3 for 4 tonight and his OPS is up to .809. Suddenly, his season looks like a nice success after a hot week.
Another reason people should never write off an elite prospect.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Is there a cogent reason Worley had to be taken out after six innings? I see Morosco's on deck.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:58 PM
Nice SO by Herndon.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:59 PM
Who was writing off Singleton? Not the experts. He's only 19 and making the necessary adjustments. In this current case, it's mostly attitude at the plate.
Posted by: mainerob | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 08:59 PM
Worley had 105 pitches. Moscoso has 82.
Posted by: Iceman | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:00 PM
Herndon 2.0 is awesome. God bless Rule 5.
Posted by: Phanatic Phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:00 PM
Worley was taken out b/c he threw 105 pitches.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:00 PM
A bunch of people have been ripping him of late. A hot few days and he's basically right back up where we hoped he'd be for a 19 year old in a pitchers league.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:01 PM
maine: 105 pitches thrown, with 2 pitchers already on the DL, and no viable starter at AAA. That's 3 cogent reasons right there.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:01 PM
If you were an A's fan, I can imagine that this is a pretty dull team to follow. Honestly not one guy in their lineup tonight you really want to see hit.
Posted by: MG | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:02 PM
Bizarro Herndon continues to get the job since his return.
Posted by: MG | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:03 PM
Yup LA. A soft tossing RHP with a good changeup has this line in check the past year.
Posted by: MG | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:05 PM
MG: Who in the Phillies lineup do you really want to see hit tonight?
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Not Ready.
Posted by: NEPP | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:10 PM
Interesting that the rookie has had a couple very good at bats tonight - showing patience while drawing one walk and now getting a hit, he's made the pitcher work. Meanwhile the vets are swinging away.
Posted by: Charlie Hayes | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:10 PM
The contradictions in the complaints on BL are bizarre sometimes. Most of the time people are railing on how this team isn't patient enough (which is true). Now mainerob says one of the few guys on the team that works the count, Brown, isn't aggressive enough? Make up your minds.
Posted by: Iceman | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:11 PM
If Not Yet Ready keeps working counts and walking, time to move him up in the lineup.
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:12 PM
How much did Pete pay for that hooker. If more than 2 dollar, too much.
Posted by: whitey | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:12 PM
If Lopes were still around Brown wouldn't have been glued to 1B 3 times tonight.
Posted by: curt | Friday, June 24, 2011 at 09:14 PM