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Monday, January 24, 2011

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I have no idea what the Golden League is, but can't feel too bad for Jerry Spradlin, mainstay of the Rolen-era Phils, who's getting paid to play in Maui.

Did Vic Darensbourg retire?

honmono durbin. Nice

Mike Hartley 91-92, is managing in Europe, most recently in Germany. Seems as if he was still pitching until at least 2007 there, http://www.mister-baseball.com/qa-mike-hartley-head-coach-heidenheim-heidekoepfe/

Speaking of the 2007 squad piecing together wins from spare parts. I remember this Monday night game, when the Phils were up 12-0 in the 6th and couldn't find anyone in the banged up bullpen to get outs:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN200709170.shtml

Alfonseca. Mesa. Kane Davis. All your favorites are there. Eude Brito. Francisco Rosario earns his only major league save.

JR King - Here is who was available that night for Cholly: Condrey, Mesa, Rosario, Alfonseca, Castro, Kane Davis, Ennis, Geary and JD Durbin.

Quite possibly one of the worst set of available relievers you will ever see for a contender that late in Sept.

7 of those guys (Mesa, Rosario, Alfonseca, Castro, Davis, JD Durbin, Ennis) didn't pitch again in MLB after '07.

Maybe why Cholly uses Madson when he is up 4 or 5 runs to get the last 3 outs because he has so many Vietnam-style flashbacks to the bullpen of '07.

Other useless trivia - The Phils only had 1 pitcher left (JD Durbin) in a Sept game with an expanded roster that only went 9 innings.

How bad must Italian League baseball be? I'd love to be paid to play there, but it must be a Jr. College level of play, tops.

I remember that game. I remember fleeing from my apt., going for a long walk and returning just as Rosario was barely getting the final outs.

What a lineup though. 4 everyday players with OPSs greater than .900 and two above .880. Graft that onto today's pitching staff and, with health, you're looking at 105 or more wins.

"Maybe why Cholly uses Madson when he is up 4 or 5 runs to get the last 3 outs because he has so many Vietnam-style flashbacks to the bullpen of '07."


MG, you could be on to something. I'd say it's probably more like nightmares.

I'm big Eric Junge supporter, always liked him.

For those interested Matt Gleb has a decent Q & A over at teh Phillies Zone - link on right.

Discusses Blanton and former Phil Chris Coste.

"Gary SouthShore"

When I first saw that, I was having trouble remembering what position he played.

I saw both Alfonseca and Junge in a game in Lancaster last year. Second on my 2010 highlights behind seeing the opener in DC.

Lots of obscure memories! The highlight being J.D. Durbin's CGSO vs. Jake Peavy and the Padres.

This list is awesome. Great work. Another reason I love this site.

FWIW, people thought Tad Iguchi should've been resigned to like 4-year deal to be Utley's backup after his one decent month in August 2007.

****Maybe why Cholly uses Madson when he is up 4 or 5 runs to get the last 3 outs because he has so many Vietnam-style flashbacks to the bullpen of '07.****

~Platoonesque as Adagio for Strings plays in the background.~

"Looking back, we didn't fight the other team...we fought each other"-Charlie Manuel on the 2007 Bullpen.

Jack: "FWIW, people thought Tad Iguchi should've been resigned to like 4-year deal to be Utley's backup after his one decent month in August 2007. "

You've been arguing with clout so long that you've become him.

jason, bravo!

I have a very off-topic question:

Does anyone here use MLB.tv to watch live games/ Are the blackouts based on the zip code of your billing address, or the IP address of the computer used to access the website...or soemthing else?

Fatalotti: I use mlb.tv. I believe the blackouts are based on ip address because the Nats are blacked out at home and the O's are blacked out at work but not vice versa.

Definitely IP address. If anyone knows a good way around it let me know. I cancelled my cable but would love to be able to still watch the Phils.

You can purchase devices that mask your IP address or reroute it to an out of area one. I'd suggest a quick internet seach for such a device.

How do you say "Real Deal" in Japanese?

I watched an Italian league game on satellite tv in, of all places, Dahouk, Iraq. The games are different. Once a runner gets on base they tend to try to steal 2B and 3B. It wasn't pretty baseball to watch. Also, at least at the stadium where the game I was watching was being played, there was protective netting in foul territory completely down the lines.

Andy: According to babelfish, it's
実質の取り引き
. . . I'm not sure how to pronounce that.

****watched an Italian league game on satellite tv in, of all places, Dahouk, Iraq. The games are different. Once a runner gets on base they tend to try to steal 2B and 3B. ****

Maybe they're big Rickey Henderson/Vince Coleman fans...

MPN: Careful, lest some ears interpret you as saying the Italians like to steal... :)

King: I vaguely remember that game, and the boxscore is still awesome. A monster one-through-five, as Klaus noted, hits five home runs. Dobbs starts at third because of his height but grounds into a DP in the 2nd, strikes out looking in the 4th, and gets gunned down at third by Jim Edmonds in the 5th. Werth had started to really come on in RF, and Vic is still waiting in the wings. Nunez and Bourn come on as later innings defensive replacements (in the seventh, before things get out of hand!), yet two of the strongest fielders (Rollins and Ruiz) end up with an error and passed ball. LaRussa ends up playing Ankiel in CF and eventually gets BL-Favs So Taguchi and Russell Branyan onto the field (Miguel Cairo only pinch hits). The Cards' starter gets the hated oddball loss despite surrendering only four runs in a game in which his team scored eleven. Condrey can't get anybody out, Mesa lets three inherited score, and the win goes to Kendrick, who, despite recording only one strikeout, seems to have done a reasonable job in a game no one would describe as being well-pitched. Beerleaguer should commission a documentary series about games like this.

What I remember about this game is the absolute frustration that there were not more relief pitchers in the bullpen.

They were in the middle of a six-game win streak (including that famous sweep of the Mets) and got those wins from: Geary, Gordon, Alfonseca, Geary, Kendrick, and Mesa. Still makes me want to drink.

"JR King - Here is who was available that night for Cholly: Condrey, Mesa, Rosario, Alfonseca, Castro, Kane Davis, Ennis, Geary and JD Durbin"

Would you be willing to have a similar bullpen in 2011 if you could be guaranteed a WFC in 2012? (Good Lord, I'm fishing for any baseball talk. This is a tough time of the year.)

little known fact: rain delays in the Golden League are called golden showers.

Talk about spanning the globe to find Phils players, the Phils still have one organizational guy still playing from the 2010 season. Best I can figure Tim Kennelly will be playing for the Perth Heat in Sydney in the ABL semi finals. Game time 3:30 am EST Thursday morning.

Been a long season for TK starting with the minor league camp in March, the FSL, the AFL and now the ABL playoffs. He and Sebastian Valle who played in the SAL regular season and playoffs; Florida Instucts and the Mexican Pacific league regular season and playoffs are the anti Domonic Browns of the organization.

http://web.theabl.com.au/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110125&content_id=16496420&vkey=news_t4068&fext=.jsp&sid=t4068

andy: i already posted it: it's honmono.

About 10-15 years ago, my Intramural ice hockey team in Montgomery County, PA was called "The Golden Showers". All we could afford were gold jerseys with no logos other than our numbers on the back so that's the name we picked.

It was funny at the time. We went 10-0 that season and won the playoffs FWIW.

NEPP: If you saved the newspaper clippings, that might make it on The Tonight Show.

We rained goals all over them that year.

The jokes were endless.

FYI Doosan is not a place but rather the company that owns the team. The team is based in Seoul.
Also, I'm still jealous of Mr. Durbin. I intend to spend my old age telling the grandkids about the women in Fukuoka.

Jerry Spradlin...wow.

This list is kind of inspiring. These guys are living a dream, seeing the world and putting together an interesting life. Good for them.

The Phils absolutely don't make the playoffs in '07 without Tad Iguchi.

He made no sense as a re-sign, however, since his only position was 2B. I do recall some posters saying he should be re-signed and moved to 3B, but that was never an option.

Nice to see Reggie "Tools" Taylor is still active. He is the template for Phillies 1st round draft picks. I bet he still has great tools today.

Besides the thoroughly mediocre 'Mr. Baseball' with Tom Selleck what other movies are out there about baseball players playing aboard?

"Besides the thoroughly mediocre 'Mr. Baseball' with Tom Selleck what other movies are out there about baseball players playing aboard?"

I an League of Their Own, each of those baseball players were played by a broad.

NEPP: I hope your team didn't spray one another with gatorade liquids (particularly lemon-lime) after winning games....

Unikruk: Nah, all of the players seemed to be from the Caribbean. Slap hitters and poor defense seemed to be the rationale for that strategy...

Yow, make that "In A League ..."

"Mr. Baseball" was awesome with the Frank Thomas cameo and Tom Selleck's dreamy mustache.

Golden showers and Tom Selleck's dreamy mustache.


Just another odd day at Beerleaguer.

Any movie with The Big Hurt in it is a winner. Also that scene were Mr. Baseball wakes up at a teenage girl's slumber party is pretty out of control.

Here's something different to talk about:

Over at Phuture Phillies the posters have selected Colby Shreve finally on their list of prospects at 24. They also chose Altherr at 14. Dunno about you; but this is one of them things that makes me go "hmmmmm."

"The Phils absolutely don't make the playoffs in '07 without Tad Iguchi."

Exxon was the 2010 Iguchi. Not that the Phillies definitely don't make the playoffs without Valdez, but it would have been more of a struggle. I wonder who the 2011 Iguchi will be.

Big Hit.
Happy Body!

Napoli to the Rangers, former closer Frank Francisco + Cash to the Blue Jays.

WTF?

Odd...At this point though I trust that AA knows what he is doing.

Napoli is really a catcher in name only so this probably makes sense somehow.

Don't forget the Jays also got Kash Konsiderations in that deal.

Will never forget the game where Roberson was put in the game for late inning defense and almost immediately misplayed two fly balls. At one point Jimmy Rollins ran a pair of sunglasses out to him, but the damage was done by then.

Seems like he was outta here not long after that.

The Jays have some depth at catcher (JP Arencibia is close to ML ready, not to mention Travis D'Arnaud who is still a ways away from the majors) and Napoli isn't a very good defensive catcher and would probably be moved to 1B or DH soon. This makes sense for the Jays, funny how they were able to get rid of the Vernon Wells albatross contract and get some good value (and cash!) in return.

The Jays are a work in progress. Francisco is a big upgrade at closer over Dotel or Camp (or Gregg who they had last year) and Arenciba is a hot prospect at catcher, so Napoli's value to the team was at DH.

My guess is that they plan to pick up a thirdbaseman somewhere and shift Encarnacion to DH.

Clout: Why not just pay 4 million for Vlad?

Looks like Napoli has three arb years left and Francisco is on his walk year from Cot's. It still seems like an odd trade to me. Without knowing how much cash it looks to favor the Rangers at this point. I wouldn't be surprised to see Francisco moving in July again either.

Napoli is probably going to make a shade under $6 million this year after arb, while Francisco is looking at making around $4 million. Francisco is also going to most likely be a Type A free-agent in the 2011-12 off-season and Anthopoulos' has shown a propensity for hoarding draft picks. Looks like the Rangers got a right-hand hitting option at C/1B/DH for the next couple of years and the Blue Jays got a closer/set-up man for this year and a draft pick next year. I'd call it a wash.

Yo, newer thread

This is good game and i love it.I see two Alfonseca and Juan heat Lancaster in the race last year. The list is awesome. Great work. Another reason, I like this site.

Any idea where Eric Junge is at this year? I NEED his autograph on a team photograph.

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