I agree with Jon. Sanchez, if left in, might well have pitched a game just as well as Lincecum's; he was well on his way. Even as is it was quite a start. It's pretty absurd that a team could lose two out of three games in spite of two of the best starts in postseason history. And the third start was just 6 and two thirds of scoreless ball.
"Does Bochy get ripped in SF for taking PtB too early like Charlie used to?"
No. But the Bay Area fans and media are not generally as critical as the Philly fans & media. Of course, it's also worth noting that Burrell is not as good a hitter as he was in his Philly days, whereas his defense has gotten even worse. So pulling him for defense is a somewhat more defensible move than it was in Philly.
I was surprised Cox took out his new closer. It's hard to second-guess how the guy handles pitchers, given his track record with them, but they're not going far with bullpen disarray and faltering confidence at their back end.
PtB is probably the Giants best clutch hitter. If not, he's in the top 2 or 3, so he should be in the game right now.
Then again, I never agreed with that move when UC did it.
Fatalotti: Truth is that Conrad is the backup of the backup. If Chipper and Prado are both healthy, Infante is backup number one and Conrad is backup number two.
Chipper Jones on one leg is a better fielder than Conrad.
Also, someone needs to let Dick Stockton know how to pronounce the word "error" and also let him know that there is a word that is pronoucned "era", but it has a totally different meaning that the word "error".
This postseason has featured some truly atrocious defense already, probably the worst I can remember seeing in the playoffs, and we're only in the division series...
Nothing was worse than McGarver pronoucning Chooch's name, Roo-is.
Also, the Giants winning this game was the best for the Phils. The Braves will not lose 2 in a row at home, and Lincecum will be forced to pitch game 5 at home. The Giants will probably win that one,a nd Lincecum won't be able to pitch until probably game 3 of the NLCS.
Someone snapped a cell phone pic of Cole at a bar today watching football, they just showed on MLB Network. He declined the free beers that came his way. Cute pic, and I'm glad he's relaxed. Can't imagine Roy H anywhere but the ballpark on gameday, but that's him.
Nothing should've deflated a team more than losing 19-8 at home to fall to 0-3 in a series, but the 04 Red Sox came all the way back to win the series in 7 games.
I think the Braves will play well tomorrow, and I'd take the veteran Lowe on 3 days rest (who, again, knows a thing or two about being down in a series) over the rookie Bumgarner.
I feel bad for Conrad even though I'm glad it happened. He just shouldn't be out there. In that respect, it's not his fault. It's just that we all expect major leaguers to he able to field their position.
Dick Stockton is originally from Philly so I'm not sure where he's getting that pronunciation. Error in Philly is often shortened to one syllable and becomes a homophone with "air".
" Truth is that Conrad is the backup of the backup. If Chipper and Prado are both healthy, Infante is backup number one and Conrad is backup number two.
Posted by: Dukes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:49 PM"
Truth is that Wilson Valdez is also the backup of the backup.
Remember, Braves replaced Billy Wagner on the NLDS roster. Which means he won't be able to play in the NLCS.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:26 PM
Wow, I would not let Brooks Conrad call me off. Gutsy play, Derek Lee.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:29 PM
The Braves just got lucky, the Giants would have swept the Braves if it wasn't for errors (game 2) and bad managing.
Posted by: Jon | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:29 PM
Lincecum looks like he is about to cry.
Posted by: Jon | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:30 PM
Does Bochy get ripped in SF for taking PtB too early like Charlie used to?
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:31 PM
You mighta guessed I left the word 'out' out of the previous post.
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:32 PM
His work schedule just got changed.
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:32 PM
Today's Brave game not a sell out, nor tomorrow's yet, I read on twitter.
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:33 PM
I agree with Jon. Sanchez, if left in, might well have pitched a game just as well as Lincecum's; he was well on his way. Even as is it was quite a start. It's pretty absurd that a team could lose two out of three games in spite of two of the best starts in postseason history. And the third start was just 6 and two thirds of scoreless ball.
Posted by: Tray | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:34 PM
The only thing that could be considered "lucky" for the Braves was Bochy taking Sanchez out. Otherwise, the Braves have earned these victories.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:34 PM
Callers to postgame show going nuts at bochy for pulling pat. Fp santangelo had to institute a decibel gong for angry callers.
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:34 PM
Whoa. Not the closer after all.
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:36 PM
Wow, what a huge spot for Mike Dunn.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:38 PM
Wow.
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:39 PM
It is a big stadium, capacity almost 50K. But I am almost certain CBP could sell that many tix.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:39 PM
Wow. Gutsy rally.
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:40 PM
OMG!! Can't believe it!! Over-managing!!
Posted by: Jon | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:40 PM
The Giants scored a run without the ball going off Brooks Conrad's glove???
Posted by: Mick in Houston | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:40 PM
And they don't have PtB in the lineup. Smart.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:40 PM
A good throw would have made that interesting.
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:40 PM
"Does Bochy get ripped in SF for taking PtB too early like Charlie used to?"
No. But the Bay Area fans and media are not generally as critical as the Philly fans & media. Of course, it's also worth noting that Burrell is not as good a hitter as he was in his Philly days, whereas his defense has gotten even worse. So pulling him for defense is a somewhat more defensible move than it was in Philly.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:41 PM
I guess it's fair to say that the Braves are missing Prado & Wagner.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:42 PM
Scratch "almost."
Posted by: GBrettfan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:42 PM
Lincecum dropping the f-bomb on TV. Replayed twice.
Posted by: Kutztown Fan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:42 PM
The Giants also have more 4th outfielders than they know what to do with. So the dropoff is not that great.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:43 PM
I was surprised Cox took out his new closer. It's hard to second-guess how the guy handles pitchers, given his track record with them, but they're not going far with bullpen disarray and faltering confidence at their back end.
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:43 PM
PtB is probably the Giants best clutch hitter. If not, he's in the top 2 or 3, so he should be in the game right now.
Then again, I never agreed with that move when UC did it.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:44 PM
Paly, Cox always said that he would go with pen by committee. He was playing lefty lefty matchup.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:44 PM
There it is
Posted by: Mick in Houston | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:45 PM
Brooks Conrad should be taken out back and put down.
He is simply a useless athlete right now.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:45 PM
Conrad. Again. He's gotta be the most hated man in Atlanta.
Posted by: Kutztown Fan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:45 PM
And Brooks Conrad is on this team because...?
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:45 PM
How the hell did this guy make it to the major leagues? I've never seen a worse fielder in my entire life. And I'm counting little league.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:45 PM
Wow, the giants just got scary. 2 runs scored with 2 outs. meltdown by the Braves. over-managing by cox.
Posted by: Jon | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
I'm starting to feel sorry for Brooks Conrad. How many times can this guy screw up in the field?
Posted by: Matt | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
Do they really have no better option than that guy? Wouldn't one of their backup OFs be better?
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
Wow, even I'm starting to feel sorry for Brooks Conrad.
Posted by: Dukes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
"They say errors are made with the glove, but right now I think it's between Conrad's ears."
-the TBS color guy, just now.
Burnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Posted by: dlhunter | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
The Braves must miss Wagner & Prado, I agree, BAP.
Conrad seriously needs to enroll in fielding clinic over the winter (even if it's through Little League).
Posted by: GBrettfan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
Baseball is a cruel mistress...
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
Conrad is actively killing this team.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
I know a Braves win would be better for the Phils, but I'm liking this implosion.
Posted by: Kutztown Fan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:46 PM
So glad that the Phillies have Valdez right now. Some teams have guys like Conrad as their backup infielder.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:47 PM
My guess is that Glaus starts at third tomorrow with Infante at 2nd. They just can't put that guy out there again.
Posted by: Dukes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:47 PM
Fatalotti: Truth is that Conrad is the backup of the backup. If Chipper and Prado are both healthy, Infante is backup number one and Conrad is backup number two.
Posted by: Dukes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:49 PM
Thx Spitz. Still seems strange to me, but he knows his guys I guess.
Posted by: PalyChris | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:49 PM
Chipper Jones on one leg is a better fielder than Conrad.
Also, someone needs to let Dick Stockton know how to pronounce the word "error" and also let him know that there is a word that is pronoucned "era", but it has a totally different meaning that the word "error".
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:49 PM
Anyone else annoyed every time the TBS play by play guy says "aerh-wuh" instead of error?
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:49 PM
This postseason has featured some truly atrocious defense already, probably the worst I can remember seeing in the playoffs, and we're only in the division series...
Posted by: laramie | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:50 PM
I noticed that as well, LH. What kind of accent is that?
Posted by: Dukes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:50 PM
I think it could be fun to see the Braves play the shift against Howard with Conrad.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:50 PM
I find Dick Stockton's pronunciation adorable.
Posted by: dlhunter | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:50 PM
Hah, Fatalotti, you beat me to it.
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:50 PM
Fat - Chipper plays 3rd.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:51 PM
Yea, I'd much rather have Schierholtz up than PtB.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:51 PM
Stockton saying "San-CHEZ" is really annoying me, too.
Posted by: Matt | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:51 PM
Stockton, believe it or not, is a Philadelphian.
Posted by: Tray | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:52 PM
Conrad booed for failing to bunt and failing to field.
No mention made by announcers, just as they never mention when Phillies fans boo their players, right?
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:52 PM
I wonder what Beerleaguer would sound like right now if this were a Giants-Phillies series & Brooks Conrad played for the Phillies.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:53 PM
Nothing was worse than McGarver pronoucning Chooch's name, Roo-is.
Also, the Giants winning this game was the best for the Phils. The Braves will not lose 2 in a row at home, and Lincecum will be forced to pitch game 5 at home. The Giants will probably win that one,a nd Lincecum won't be able to pitch until probably game 3 of the NLCS.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:53 PM
If Stockton's from Philadelphia, he probably went a high school classmate of Ben Franklin.
Posted by: EastFallowfield | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:55 PM
Yeah, that pitch wasn't a strike.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:55 PM
Fatalotti: Not so sure about that. I think this completely deflates Atlanta.
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:55 PM
That pitch to Heyward was definitely a ball.
Posted by: Matt | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:55 PM
Via Wikipedia, Stockton's career seems to have really only taken off in his late 60's. Good on him, I say.
Posted by: dlhunter | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:56 PM
BAP, Valdez is a first ballot Hall of Famer compared to Conrad, and he still gets bashed, so yea, it would be ugly.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:57 PM
Someone snapped a cell phone pic of Cole at a bar today watching football, they just showed on MLB Network. He declined the free beers that came his way. Cute pic, and I'm glad he's relaxed. Can't imagine Roy H anywhere but the ballpark on gameday, but that's him.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:57 PM
Well, time for more important matters - the Phillies. Hopefully Cole will be the beast we've seen down the stretch.
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:58 PM
Nothing should've deflated a team more than losing 19-8 at home to fall to 0-3 in a series, but the 04 Red Sox came all the way back to win the series in 7 games.
I think the Braves will play well tomorrow, and I'd take the veteran Lowe on 3 days rest (who, again, knows a thing or two about being down in a series) over the rookie Bumgarner.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:58 PM
I feel bad for Conrad even though I'm glad it happened. He just shouldn't be out there. In that respect, it's not his fault. It's just that we all expect major leaguers to he able to field their position.
It's shocking to see one this bad.
Posted by: Rob in NC | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:58 PM
Dick Stockton is originally from Philly so I'm not sure where he's getting that pronunciation. Error in Philly is often shortened to one syllable and becomes a homophone with "air".
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:59 PM
Wilson is even creepier looking than AJ Burnett.
Posted by: Kutztown Fan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 07:59 PM
The strikezone just got huge.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:00 PM
Giants grab the 3rd game.
Posted by: philwynk | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:01 PM
The Giants' bullpen looks like the House of David team bullpen.
And Eric Hinske is looking like a refrigerator with a bat.
Posted by: aksmith | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:03 PM
MVP for the Giants today is Brooks Conrad.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:03 PM
Now Phils really need to win so we don't get mismatches against Lincecum if Giants win tomorrow.
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:03 PM
How fortunate are we to have Wilson Valdez. Conrad is the Dr. Strangeglove of the 21st century.
Posted by: ozark | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:05 PM
What do you mean Spitz?
If Halladay pitches tomorrow, he'll be able to pitch game 1 of the NLCS on normal rest.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:06 PM
Truth is that Wilson Valdez is also the backup of the backup.
See how lucky we were?
Posted by: philwynk | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:06 PM
If I'm a Braves fan, the fact that Conrad was even among the options of backup IF, would infuriate me.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:08 PM
I didn't realize that Fatalotti. Thanks for the info!
Posted by: Spitz | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:08 PM
Cabrera IS playing after all.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:09 PM
No problem Spitz. I'd still like to not have to use Halladay tomorrow. Let him go into the NLCS with PLENTY of rest.
Halladay had 8 days of rest before his no-hitter, so we should be looking perfect game with 9 days of rest.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:10 PM
Ugh, warning track power.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:11 PM
Chase's poweroutage continues.
Posted by: jason.tp | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:11 PM
Where has all the power gone?
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:12 PM
To be fair, he DID hit that nearly 400 feet. Just the wrong part of the field.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:12 PM
I hope Howard gets a hold of one here.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:13 PM
Opposite field Howard.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:14 PM
Nice AB, Ryno.
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:15 PM
Lack of power just helped that fall in for a hit.
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:15 PM
Jayson Werth has some crazy numbers in clinching games.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:16 PM
philwynk: good point. however, instead of calling it luck, let's call it good work by the phillies brass.
Posted by: Dukes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:17 PM
Cueto will hit a few Phils before the night is out.
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Glad Cabrera started. I love this Reds defense.
Posted by: Fatalotti | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:18 PM
There's that vaunted Reds defense again.
Posted by: Kutztown Fan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Nice throw, Cabrera. Was that the umpire's fault?
Posted by: Old Phan | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:18 PM
First pitch Jimmy! Nice work.
Posted by: Lincoln Hawkes | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:19 PM
Why the f**k is manuel stickin with rollins?????
Posted by: ericg51 | Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 08:19 PM