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Tuesday, August 24, 2010

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If the playoffs started today, we'd still be in.


The Cardinals are tied with us in the loss column, so that's not terribly comforting.

Who knew a game on 8/24 could be a "must win".....Phils are faced with that prospect now bc of their ineptitude score runs. Can't go through a 4 game series with the stros at home without winning at least 3.....This is another example of how the phillies play down to their opponents (see pirates, cubs, and nationals)

Hear, hear, George S.

How many balls has Werth hit off the wall this year? It's uncanny. Almost as odd as his performance with runners on. AS for the latest pick off, I don't remember him being this stupid before this year. Manuel needs to tell him "there's a reason they call it dope, son."

Astros seem to own the Phils in Philly. This is not a series I feel good about.

Raul's swing is just pathetic to watch lately. He is tryin to pull everything. His head flies out so hard it looks like it could end up in the 3rd row if it wasnt attached.

they are 14-7 in their last 21 in philly

Just a comment regarding the Werth, Victorino story.
If both contacts were up, and the way this year has been played, who would you resign going forward ?

Big difference in Werth HR between this year and last are his road HR #. Just 4 this year (Nat'ls Stadium; New Yankee; 2 in ARI) compared to 12 last year at this point in the season. Although right around this time last year he had a series against ARI at home where he hit 4 HR, so he's about to fall off his Home HR pace as well.

But he has 8 "just enough" HR this year (50%), and he had 17 last year (47%) so it's not really a "luck" or wall issue.

Uncle Chollie is showing his hypocrisy in leaving brain-dead Werth in the game after that disgraceful play at 2nd, but sitting Rollins back in 2008 for a far less offense. Talk about the blown call at first all you want, Werth cost us the game and he should ride the bench today. It's not like you're missing his stick anyway.

Some perspective after a tough loss. August losses

Phis: 6
Reds: 6
Padres: 7
Braves: 8
Brewers: 8
Cards: 8
Giants: 11

Bud Norris faces the Phils tonight. 78 ERA+, 1.434 WHIP, but 112 K in 106 IP (45 BB). 5.24 road ERA this year. Faced the Phils already in 10 and gave up 3 ER in 2.2 IP (6 hits, 4 BB). He's had some solid starts lately, striking out 14 Pirates two starts ago and walking just 1, but against the 6 playoff contenders he's given up 17 ER in 26.2 IP (and that includes a 7 IP, 0 R performance against the Padres).

The guy would have struck out 15 batters with last night's zone, but this is a mismatch of near Doc-Marquis proportions.

Even though the Phils made mistakes last night and didn't take advantage of every situation presented them, they did enough to win that game last night. The Bourn call changed the game markedly (Howard tagged him and he was outside the baseline...he was actually out twice). Blanton went 7 innings of 1 run ball, Madson would have struck out Pence for the third out had not Bourn been called safe, and Lidge had a fairly easy go of it in the 9th.

That's since July 1, those Norris numbers in 26.2 IP.

While we're piling on Werth, why does the guy have to constantly stumble 20 feet across the batter's box every time he gets a pitch inside, then take 15 seconds to drag himself back to the right side as if he'd just run a marathon?

He's been playing with his head up his a** all season, first it was the trade talk, now what's the excuse? He had a career year last season that will probably never be duplicated for the rest of his career anyway. Given all that he's still the only power hitting righthander you have to have in that lineup, although the HR numbers are down.

We pretty much always drop a winnable (seemingly MUST WIN) series at this point in the season...Typically its to a team that is terrible like the Pirates or Reds (in other years). This simply could be that series. The doom and gloom around here will be epic if we lost the next two with Hamels and Halladay going.

Statistically Werth is having a much better year this year than last (this is not a comment about his RISP and all that, just a response to Cowley's post. Werth's OPS+ is 14 points higher than last year's, his BA almost 40 points higher, his OBP 20 points higher, and his SLG 16.)

****While we're piling on Werth, why does the guy have to constantly stumble 20 feet across the batter's box every time he gets a pitch inside, then take 15 seconds to drag himself back to the right side as if he'd just run a marathon?****

From what I understand, regular marijuana use effects one's inner ear functionality.

The doom and gloom could well be justified if we lose the next 2, fall to 4.5 back in the division and 1 back in the WC. Also after losing both games started by Hamels and halladay, your stopper: Kyle Kendrick. Season wouldn't be over, but it wouldn't be promising.

That's one case where statistics dont tell the whole story, he's cost us more games than he's won us with offense with these baserunning goofs, how many times do you have to watch him staring into space on the bases to end the inning and go to commercial?. Victorino will have similar episodes on the bases as well but he at least is usually trying to do something, albeit at the wrong time and the wrong situation. Werth just looks lost.

Sophist, would you regard this year as a good year for Werth? Has he helped or hindered his value with this season's performance going into free agency?

Cowley, a "career year" is a statistical feat. Werth is having a better year statistically this year.

In any case, the idea that he's cost us more games with his baserunning goofs than he's won with his bat is laughable. I'm not going to defend the guy's increasingly common mental lapses, but that's a bit much.

Last night is now history, can't change it, umpires get an assist Astros get a win.

I wonder if Howard did tag Bourn, that would be the only way the Home Plate umpire would overturn the call. The baseline judgement was as clear to the 1B ump as the HP ump, but the HP ump had a better view of the tag.

Water under the bridge, however.

Sept 1-3rd 2008: Phillies drop 2 of 3 to the Nats (and 5 of their last 8 overall) and fall 3 back in the NL East. The doom and gloom around here was EPIC.

Sept 1-7th 2007: Phillies drop 5 of 6 to the Fish and Braves respectively...falling 6 back in the NL East. Doom and gloom was EPIC around here.


We're in okay shape with Hamels & Halladay going and even if we lost the series, we'd still be okay most likely. Its not even Sept yet.

I would argue that this is the worst "great career" year that a player has ever had.

I'll repost this odd stat from last night:

Werth in 2010:

XBH: 60
RBI: 61

That's not getting it done as a 5 hitter. If he were a leadoff hitter, he'd probably be the best leadoff hitter in the NL.

Fatalotti - that wasn't my point and I said as much. My point was that if you looked up his numbers and picked the best year of his career, this would be it.

But to answer your question: I think Werth is going to make a ton of money in the offseason. I think the difference between that money and the money he'd make in the world where he commits fewer goofs and has a better average w RISP is marginal. If he'd have hit .250/.350 with 30 doubles and 20 HR, and had a bunch of injuries, his value would have been hit substantially.

Would anyone have cared if Charlie pulled him last nigt after that play? The fact is nobody would have because unlike last season there is no confidence he would have a clutch hit to open up the game, more likely he would be swinging at ball 4 a foot low and outside for a strikeout. And all the talk about his "great at bats" are also bogus, he works pitchers because he swings at bad pitches and fouls them off until he eventually gets a pitch to hit or swings badly and misses. This goes beyond statistics.

"I would argue that this is the worst "great career" year that a player has ever had."

I think that's an excellent point, and the way I should have said it.

"We're in okay shape with Hamels & Halladay going and even if we lost the series, we'd still be okay most likely. Its not even Sept yet."

bingo.

I watched a game with the Rangers this week. Vlad had just got on first base, and the Rangers were down by two with two outs in the ninth. Vlad inexplicably tries to steal second base, he's out, game over.

That was the most terrible baserunning gaffe I've seen this year.

However, Werth's was at least as bad. Why?

At least Vlad was trying to make something happen, as stupid and as misguided an attempt as that was. Werth on the other hand, was just taking too long a lead and was taking a nap. Vlad's baserunning gaffe showed gross stupidity, but also some hustle. Werth's baserunning gaffe showed he was taking a nap in the vicinity of second base.

At this point, Werth is just so incredibly frustrating. He's like your gifted kid that chooses to work at Wal-Mart...the fact that you know he has the potential to be so much better than he is showing but just isn't showing it.

The correct move managerially would have been to pull him and take the defensive hit of having Francisco in RF. Yeah, its a pennant race but Werth needs to get his head out of his arse and a benching would have done it.


Werth is a great player having an oddly terrible statistical year with RISP. In every other facet of hitting, he's been great. Very flukish and maybe a big part of it was him not being ready mentally to step up and be "The Man" with Utley AND Howard out.

Sorry Heather but this came to mind:

A lot of people would have cared if Werth got pulled because the Phils were playing about a half man down last night with Polanco not starting. If Manuel had replaced Werth with Francisco earlier, the moves in the 9th (and possibly later if Rollins' ball drops in) would have been more difficult, and you would have had Ruiz running for himself. Remember that Manuel had already used Brown to PH as well.

I'm not necessarily against pulling guys for stupid plays, but you don't give an adult a "timeout" when it's a bad baseball move and you're in a pennant race. Werth is an adult. Don't have to pull a guy every time they make a mistake.

****Don't have to pull a guy every time they make a mistake. ****

I agree...but it was the 2nd or 3rd such incident in recent weeks. If it was the 1st time...crap happens but its been a pattern with him.

Its a tough hit in a pennant race to lose a bench piece for a stupid move like that but sometimes you have to bite that bullet.

Someone other than Jimmy should def. be batting leadoff (for the second season in a row) and given how terribly Werth has performed w RISP, he seems ideal.

But then again its not a great idea for your leadoff hitter to make the kinds of stupid baserunning mistakes Werth has made time and again this season.

Sophist, I wasn't provoking you with my last question, just asking your opinion.

Tonight seems like a good night for Howard to get his timing back and put us on his back. it's been a while since we've up on his shoulders, and Hamels would much appreciate it as well.

"Its a tough hit in a pennant race to lose a bench piece for a stupid move like that but sometimes you have to bite that bullet."

Why? There are other ways to discipline him that don't impact the game last night. Making him go sit in a corner is not necessary.

I got to watch the game on Houston TV. Splitting time between New Orleans and Houston, I have never had the pleasure of hearing Werth speak or be interviewed. Is he dumb as a rock? Just from his appearance, the Uni-Bomber mountain man look, he appears to be a yokel.

What a shame to waste a good outing by Blanton and lose to the wife beater.

Actually I think that's the perfect time to sit him, in the heat of a pennant race where his head is supposed to be in the game. It's the same reason Gene Hackman ran a missile drill while there was a fire going on in the mess hall in Crimson Tide! The only person I would worry about "caring" would be Werth himself, not the fans, because in the long run it may turn his attitude around, which has been in the sh*tter all season anyway.

What are the chances Werth sits tonight against the RH starter, and we wait again to see the Starting 8?

One small small positive in Werth's RISP split: .344 OBP. If nothing else at least he's still getting on base with RISP. He reminds me of Abreu in a lot of ways sometimes. Great overall numbers but damn frustrating when you put him altogether as a complete player. Maybe playing RF in Philly screws with players?

Abreu was another guy that would have made a fantastic leadoff guy (though he absolutely refused to be moved out of the 3 hole).

~thinks about how to make this post complete~

CLIFF LEE!

Fatalotti - sorry. I was expecting people to come out of the woodwork when I said that.

Rollins last 21 games: .278/.356 (4 2b, 1 3b, 1 HR), 7 SB, 0 CS.

I'm on board with the Rollins leadoff criticism during the last few years, but Rollins is a different batter this year. His BB% is climbing and he seems to be getting his timing and strength back at the plate recently. He's 5-14 in the team's last 3 games. Really a perfect leadoff hitter these last few weeks. Off the bat I thought that ball in the 9th was falling in.

OTOH, batting Vic behind him, especially against a RHP with Vic on the left side, is not a good idea.

****Why? There are other ways to discipline him that don't impact the game last night. Making him go sit in a corner is not necessary.
****

Because it effected the rest of the team...just like Jimmy trotting to 1B or showing up late and getting benched both times.


*****It's the same reason Gene Hackman ran a missile drill while there was a fire going on in the mess hall in Crimson Tide! ****

Great movie and Hackman was a hell of a commanding officer actually. I'd of loved to have served under a guy like that when I was in (Army, not Navy though).

Werth has no baseball IQ and can't run the bases? I know it doesn't seem it this year, as he is going through a bad stretch, but this is the guy who dismantled Billy Wagner on the basepaths a few years ago, and this is the guy who stole home last year?

Maybe he is daydreaming, but I think 2010 has been a statistically odd year for Jayson. Let's knock his low homerun totals, and totally disregard his 40+ doubles! Anything you can to prove your arguement!

Werth is on pace to finish with 54 doubles and 20+ HRs. He's been fine this year. Last year he hit a bunch of "Just Barely" HRs...this year, those balls are off the wall or the wind wasn't as strong. He's physically probably the most talented guy on the field at any given time (like Abreu) but he has some brutal mental lapses. That's why he's been so frustrating. You KNOW he can do it but he screws it up lately.

Rollins is also 10 for his last 31 and all but 2 of his XBH are in that time (2 doubles, 1 triple, 1 HR ... .548 SLG).

Werth is the modern day Von Hayes with more talent. Lots of doubles, a hit with the ladies, but a meathead.

also, in Victorino's defense, while it's true that he has been on balance much worse left-handed this year, he actually had a very good at-bat against Myers, when he GIDP. He worked the count full, laying off some tough pitches, fouling off some others, finally getting a fastball, which he hit hard, unfortunately right at the 2nd baseman. You can't ask for much more from a batter than hitting a ball hard. Double plays happen.

"Why? There are other ways to discipline him that don't impact the game last night. Making him go sit in a corner is not necessary."

I agree there are other discipline methods. However, if those other discipline methods were working, why did he do it again last night? This is hardly the first time he's done this.

NEPP - you still haven't given an argument why sitting him has to be the move when he "effects the rest of the team" and not some other form of discipline.

Werth has more just enough HR (as a total percentage of his HR) this year than last year. If he had more this year, it would make his 2010 an even "luckier" year from a HR perspective.

"Abreu was another guy that would have made a fantastic leadoff guy (though he absolutely refused to be moved out of the 3 hole)."

Watched the Angels the other day and Scosia had him batting leadoff. I guess Scosia doesn't care about hurting Abreu's feelings.

...on another note, as good as Denzel was in the movie it was Hackman that stole the show. Charlie should take a hint and bench the bearded one tonight.

"Our job is to protect democracy, not too practice it...."

From J. Werth's Baseball Almanac page:

"I like to be aggressive out there, sometimes to a fault. But you play hard and play the game the right way." - Jayson Werth on MLB.com (Todd Zolecki, 05/12/2009 "Werth stuns Dodgers with steal of home")

Not so much last night.

"You can't ask for much more from a batter than hitting a ball hard. Double plays happen."

You can ask for a hard hit ball that isn't right into the teeth of the defense. The batter has SOME control where the ball goes.

I agree it was a good AB though, prior to that point.

****NEPP - you still haven't given an argument why sitting him has to be the move when he "effects the rest of the team" and not some other form of discipline. ****

Because clearly its a recurring problem and the other potential methods haven't worked.

Seriously...he got picked off during an IBB. It boggles the mind that someone could be that asleep during a critical moment in the game.

Heather, really? The batter probably can play to a side of the field or play for a grounder, but I doubt they can aim it away from players.

From today's Inquirer:

Werth was lingering off second base. Quintero threw to shortstop Angel Sanchez, who easily made the tag as Werth tried to make a belated slide into the bag.

"That speaks for itself," Manuel said. "I don't have to say a word. That play is sitting there right in front of you. I don't even have to answer that."

Sounds to me like he rides the bench tonight, we'll see.....

The starting 8 better be in the line-up tonight... No more BSing around from Charlie... It is time to win, win, win... Time is short and finally, everyone is back...put em on the field and see what happens.

What other methods? Did you read some report on how Manuel's been handling Werth?

Strange that some are so fixated on one form of discipline, and one that would have shorten the roster even further last night.

Werth's year just shows how meaningless statistics can be.

He's had a very disappointing year. He has been terrible in the field. He's made so many brain-dead plays/decisions its not even funny. He has done nothing with RISP. He has done nothing against LHP (1 HR and 8 RBI's ain't gonna cut it).

You wanna know why this team doesn't score runs most nights? Along with the injuries to key players, he and Ibanez (in the first 3 months of the season) are/were the biggest reasons. They hit in the middle of the order and did very little for the longest time.

He has made the Phils decision easy in the off-season. He gone. Let him grow his hair out and have fun with his beard for somebody else.

With Victorino, at least he is a sparkplug. His dumb plays, are usually more a case of him trying too hard or trying to do something he's not capable of. Werth's dumb plays are usually a case of seeming disinterested or having his head up his ass.

There is no way in hell Werth should start tonight, after that boner last night.

It seems like Carlos Carrasco has been around for a while, but the right-hander is still just 23. Carrasco has spent the season at Triple A Columbus, where he has a 3.77 ERA with 8.0 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 in 143.1 innings. It seems like Carrasco, who the Indians acquired in the Cliff Lee trade, will be ready to start for the Indians in 2011.

It would be ironic if Werth sat tonight and we STILL didn't see the full lineup. I'd rather see him play so we could at least see our full lineup now that its supposedly available.

This assumes that Polly will be able to go tonight as well.

Cliff Lee wouldn't have been picked off second base after an intentional walk. Neither would Abreu.

90% of catchers wouldnt even have thrown to second or noticed the baserunner sleepwalking after ball 4. The fact is Werth has gained a reputation around the league as a dope and now they're aware of it.

Chase Utley was thrown out at third over the weekend, what an idiot!!!!

It bothers me that Humberto Quinterro was more into the game on a team totally out of contention than was the former All Star RF whose team is in the thick of a playoff hunt, and whose in a contract year. It should be the other way around, right?

BenFran nearly got thrown out to end the game. Werth (Teen Wolf) should be benched. No, it's not September yet but it is next Wednesday.

Werth would hit 70 doubles playing for the Red Sox.

****It seems like Carrasco, who the Indians acquired in the Cliff Lee trade, will be ready to start for the Indians in 2011.****

Funny, that's the same thing the Phillies thought after 2008 and the same as the Indians thought after 2009.

I hope for his sake he does put it all together. Too much talent there to not succeed. After this season, he'll have made nearly 60 starts at the AAA level over 2.5 years. Hard to believe that next year will only be his Age 24 season.

****Werth would hit 70 doubles playing for the Red Sox. ****

Wallball all day long for him in Fenway.

I could care less about the regular lineup, it's time to wake him up. What good is having the opening day lineup intact and unmotivated? The fact is we went on our current run without that lineup the past 2 months, and actually play lethargic when most of the starters are in there. Bench his a$$. Play the "opening day lineup" tomorrow. Bring in the 82nd Airborne to drop the game ball again also, we'll reenact the whole thing....it's about WINNING.

"Chase Utley was thrown out at third over the weekend, what an idiot!!!!"

Uts was attempting to take the base...i.e. make a play.

He was not taking a nap somewhere on the third base line.

Sophist, Earlier you said this, re: Werth's homer total:

But he has 8 "just enough" HR this year (50%), and he had 17 last year (47%) so it's not really a "luck" or wall issue.

Isn't the question less about how many of his homers just cleared the wall and more about what percentage of his doubles went off the wall (or off the upper half maybe)?

I hope this latest gaffe costs Werth in the pocket. He obviously is somewhere else (his mind at least) this season. No more $100 million contract for JWerth. I'd be shocked if a team goes anything more than 3 year 40 mil guaranteed with some incentives.

"The fact is we went on our current run without that lineup the past 2 months, and actually play lethargic when most of the starters are in there."

Werth's last 30 games: .364/.457/.589. I'm sure all 39 of those hits (17 for extra bases) had nothing to do with the Phils 22 wins in that stretch.

"Werth is a great player having an oddly terrible statistical year with RISP. "
Does this mean he stinks with men on base?
Because he does.

Werth was hardly carrying the team on his back over that stretch. How many runs did he drive in?

I'll take the over on a 3 year, $40 million deal for Werth. No way he makes less than that.

sneed - if more doubles went over the wall, his "Just Enough / Lucky HR" percentage would be well over 60%. He's had more of them already this year. The league average Just Enough HR in 2006 was 27% -- Werth is well over that in both years. He's had some good fortune with HR, more this year than last year.

Denny b: Are you serious with that last Werth rant? Werth is 5th in NL in OPS at .926 and has clearly been our most consistent hitter this season. He's 32nd in the Majors in WAR, the highest of any Phillie. Do you know the reason we haven't scored a lot of runs this year? Because we've had a ton of injuries to run producing players.

I'll give you that his defense is overrated. It is. But his offensive output has been much better than anyone is giving him credit for.

Who is going to pay Worth $15 million a year? No way he gets close to it. Scouts see the same thing we do. They are there every night.

3/40. He's getting way more than that. If that's all he gets, it better be the Phils that sign him.

Cowley, Werth's scored 21 runs in that stretch, and has 11 RBI.

Well Sophist, Werth does have an amazing 11 RBI in that 30 game stretch.

I mean, that's a pace of just over 59 RBI over a full season.

Sophist: Doubles don't always go off the wall, right? So the real question would be to look at what % of his doubles have gone off the wall this season versus career and league averages. I think that gives you a better indication of what his true power is. For good measure, you could compare that to Ibanez's double data on the season.

Actually, scouts are smarter than you are, see more than you do, so no doubt they value Werth more than you do.

NEPP - yeah that's baffling. But I wouldn't pretend that a guy who was on base 57 times in a 30 game stretch (with 17 XBH) and 21 runs scored played no role in the 22-8 run.

I'm fairly stastically minded, but I'm not sure that you can just make a blanket statement that his performance with RISP is just a luck thing.

There is such a thing as the yips/choking whatever you want to call it.

I'm not saying that's what Werth has. It could easily be luck. I'm just not sure why we should assume that's all it is, though, either. Why do we assume if numbers can't explain something, it must be luck, and not something else? (More of a philosophical question, I guess.)

Werth has 14 RBI's since June 25th.

The Phils have won a lot of games recently, because of strong starting pitching, a more solid bullpen and some timely hitting with RISP.

Werth played very little part in any of that. He doesn't pitch and doesn't hit with RISP. What he has done, is get on base for others to hit him in. But for a #4 or #5 hitter (which is where he has hit most of the year). He's had a patheticly anemic season.

And his lack of production against LHP has been even more crippling, for a team that traditionally doesn't hit LHP.

Sophist, has anyone cited him as the reason we shot back into contention over that stretch? It was the role players and Chooch that had the key hits and of course the srating pitching. This team owes Werth no leeway for stupid mistakes.

*****NEPP - yeah that's baffling. But I wouldn't pretend that a guy who was on base 57 times in a 30 game stretch (with 17 XBH) and 21 runs scored played no role in the 22-8 run.

****

I agree...its just so odd. In that last 30 games, he has 17 XBH and 11 RBI. He's perhaps the least clutch hitter I've ever seen. (This year at least)

Denny: All the games missed by Rollins, Utley, Polanco, and now Howard have clearly impacted both the amount of runs this team has scored, as well as the amount of runs Werth has driven in.

"Denny b: Are you serious with that last Werth rant? Werth is 5th in NL in OPS at .926 and has clearly been our most consistent hitter this season. He's 32nd in the Majors in WAR, the highest of any Phillie. Do you know the reason we haven't scored a lot of runs this year? Because we've had a ton of injuries to run producing players.

I'll give you that his defense is overrated. It is. But his offensive output has been much better than anyone is giving him credit for."

You do realize that defense plays a component in WAR, right? So if UZR/Total Zone, whatever, is overrating his defense, it's going to reflect in the WAR totals, right?

The second part of your argument kinda weakens the first part.

Sophist - more to the point, he has 42 doubles already this season versus 26 for all of last season. At some point his long FB's were turning into homers more than they are now, so he was either lucky then or he's unlucky now.

Heather: I didn't mean the stats were overrating his defense, I was implying that most fans/Phillie observers think he's a plus defender because of his arm and speed, when in fact he hasn't been this season.

"At some point his long FB's were turning into homers more than they are now, so he was either lucky then or he's unlucky now."

Why can't "he lost some power" be an option?

Werth has been a bad 5 hole hitter this year. He'd've been an excellent lead off hitter this year. Unfortunately, he plays on a team where the leadoff hitter would be leading off even he had advanced ALS.

Heather: You just said you were statistically minded. His slugging percentage is higher this season by almost 3%. He hasn't lost any power. He's actually gained power.

Sneed: Werth had a HR/FB rate of 21% and 19% in 2008 and 2009. Those numbers are probably unsustainable, but his 10% this year is slightly unlucky I'd say.

How can anyone defend Werth's numbers with RISP? Or his lack of production against LHP? Or his defense? Or his strikeout pace that he is on? Or his lack of SB's this year?

Doesn't even take all the mental gaffe's he has had, into effect.

I don't care about his WAR, what is it good for, stats or his OPS or his GPS or his SAT. He is a middle of the order hitter, on a team that has seen its middle of the order injured/out of commission most of the season. He's not been hurt. And he hasn't gotten it done, for what this team has NEEDED in 2010. At least not yet anyway.

Oddly enough, Werth's LD% & GB% have both declined over the last 3 seasons while his FB% has increased.

If I'm Charlie, Werth sits tonight... and continues to sit until he decides to wake up.

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