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Thursday, August 26, 2010

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I wish the Phillies had a tough L/R combo atop their rotation like Happ & Myers. A solid #3 like Figgy would be cool too. Instead we have to scrap by with league average guys like Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt.

Damn that Ed Wade!

****One reason is that they are hitting just .163 with runners in scoring position over that span. ****

Did the entire team subscribe to the Jayson Werth School of Hitting?

dont forget Michael Bourne. A true place setter and base-stealing threat.

Nothing like losing 3 heartbreakers in a row and going to BL to see the handsome visages of Muffin and Generic Announcer Guy greeting us.

And, oh yeah, BP Postseason odds drop again, now at 35%.

It's worth noting that in the month of August, the Phillies seemed to be stronger offensively with Victorino, Utley and Howard on the DL.

We joked about Ibanez hitting third and Gload/Sweeney batting cleanup, but they got the job done. Can't say the same for this series with the Astros.

its because those guys like gload and valdez were playing with a little desperation. they knew they were playing for their jobs and if they put together good at-bats and helped the team win, a decent payday could come there way.

i personally think howard and utley are still working out the kinks but it really seems like the rest of the lineup assumes that someone else is going to step up and theyre just waiting for it to happen.

someone ON THE ROSTER, not charlie, has to take the bull by the horns and light a fire under this team. the problem is that everyone is reeling and no one has the clout right now to be able to step up and make a players only meeting happen.

The last thing anyone on the team needs is Clout in their face trying to rile them up.

But seriously it's tough not being worried about the offense. They just aren't consistent. I am keeping the faith that they will turn it around and start having better at bats, but I understand people having doubt. I think we will see a vastly different lineup soon just to shake things up. Whether or not that works is obviously debatable but I think people agree that something has to change.

I always am very concerned for the next few years. If this team is inconsistent now, how bad will it get as they get further from their peak abilities?

Maybe we should start platooning Oswalt in LF on his off days? Put Werth back behind the plate, move Chooch to 3B, push Polly over to 2B, move Utley to 1B and save Howard's bat for late inning PH efforts?

Projected Lineup:

C Jayson Werth
2B Placido Polanco
1B Chase Utley
3B Carlos Ruiz
LF Roy Oswalt
RF Domonic Brown
CF Shane Victorino
SS Jimmy Rollins
(Pitcher)

The Phillies turn to Kyle Kendrick this afternoon to avoid what would be an embarrassing four-game home sweep.

Sadly, even if the Phils win 20-1 today, this series is still a complete and utter embarrassment.

This team stinks. They'll be 5+ out after the west coast trip.

****This team stinks. They'll be 5+ out after the west coast trip.****

Nah, they'll win today and then win 5 of 7 on the WC trip...and be right back on top.

Can't see them hitting Latos, Garland, or Richard especially in that big ballpark. Even Garland has great numbers against the Phils in his career at home.

Doc Halladay asked for his watches back.

I've never seen 2 guys get pcked off bases before while standing so close to the base. It is truly amazing work by Werth and Francisco.

The bats are just cold. They're going nowhere if Utley and Howard don't get it together. No need to panic, just yet.

Roller coaster game last night, as the last couple nights. Like a microcosm of the season.
First three innings, will Halladay and Happ trade zeroes all night? Nah, "Happ will falter."

Phils announcers start stroking Halladay and touting his Cy Young candidacy - BOOM, HR 1-0 game. "Shut the f__ up you nattering fools!"

Werth comes up against Happ - "need your big righty bat to hit this guy tonight" and he hits a laser OVER the fence, instead of off of it. "Hey! This could be our night."

Michael Bourn hits a homer off Halladay. "This is definitely not our night."

Halladay starts a rally and Polanco plates him while Lee does his Luzinski imitation in left. "This really is our night."

Halladay's lifted for a pinch hitter and Ibanez fails. "Well, at least it's a quick game."

Francisco gets picked off in a deja Werth move. Start cackling to self about Manuel in a centurion outfit lining them up for decimation.

Drink a couple Yuenglings. Resolve to avoid following afternoon game with Kendrick. Assume that he'll win because, isn't that how this works?

Oh,sure. But St. Chase should still hit third because he had a good 2009 WS.

Can anybody prove that the Phillies' offense is more inconsistent than the average offense?

I am very disappointed. The team going from hot to cold and so often is very disconcerting. How would it be if we all of a sudden get hot and sweep everyone only to get cold facing the Yankees again. Isn’t it time someone addresses this issue. Why do we have to accept things they way they are? I recall Rollins when he was trying to preserve his hitting streak across two seasons deliberately had batting practice below the stands before he came up to bat to help sharpen his hitting eye. SO here is a baseball pro who knows it’s about practice. So the question is when the team is slumping as they are why can management not schedule extra batting practice? Of course they could just fire Gross and bring back Thompson. As if that solved anything.

I guess Benny was playing for a job when he got caught napping last night too.

Nothing beats psycho-babble.

"So the question is when the team is slumping as they are why can management not schedule extra batting practice?"

What an idea!

Tough loss. As much as I think the Oswalt move was a good one, I'll still always pull for Happ. The kid is simply a good pitcher who, through no fault of his own, never had the full confidence of the Phils brass. He must feel pretty good about outdueling Halladay.

"I've never seen 2 guys get pcked off bases before while standing so close to the base. It is truly amazing work by Werth and Francisco."

Well, if it's any consolation, neither will be Phillies next Feb. We can't afford Werth (thankfully) and Cholly doesn't trust Ben Fran.

Avenu Mulcahy

I drank a couple Yuenglings last night and I really thought Dom was going to hit that out.

Can't wait to follow today's game online!

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Milt Thompson - {sitting in recliner with a beer cracked open, watching Astros series} Heh, heh, heh...

Remember how rosy things were after we beat Matt Cain last week? I miss that day.

TK: Except for when Kendrick is pitching.

In play, no out

Anderson Hernandez Walks, Michael Bourne to third on lazy error by catcher Brain Schnieder.

In play, runs(s) - Hunter Pence hits a homerun on a sharp line drive to center field off Victorino's face.

We just don't hit homers anymore.

How can Kyle Kendrick be your stopper when the odds are he'll have more Ks in his name than in his final line?

****Milt Thompson - {sitting in recliner with a beer cracked open, watching Astros series} Heh, heh, heh...****

How long till Thompson is hired as the Astro's hitting coach anyway? I mean, its bound to happen at some point.

I think we should rehire Milt.

Maybe the problem is we're getting old and losing power...Dom better turn into Carlos Gonzalez.

Amaro - {sitting in office, answers ringing phone} Hello.

caller -

Amaro - Hello?

caller -

Amaro - Listen. You can't keep calling and hanging up like this.

caller -

Amaro - We're gonna find out who you are and then you'll be in big trouble, buddy!

caller -

Amaro - WHO IS THIS???

caller - heh, heh, heh

Werth is hitting .338 in the 2nd Half with 20 XBH in 39 games.

He has a whopping 13 RBI in that period. I have to assume that he's hitting something like .700 with the bases empty since the break to keep that number so high.

Fellas, we've got someone here who'd like to say a few words. Dallas, you've got the floor.

We are, for all intents and purposes, the San Francisco Giants of last year. They had great pitching and no offense to speak of. I've bet this is exactly what their fans felt like last year, as they watched pitcher after pitcher go out and throw great start after great start, only to have the offense fall woefully short night after night.

The most ironic thing about all this was I thought our offense was a little shaky but passable with Brown/Gload/Sweeney/Valdez, etc in the lineup on a consistent basis.

Unfortunately, now that all the regulars are back, it is actually worse.

Why would any current Phils care what Dallas Green has to say? Most of them probably don't even know who he is.

As for Werth, I posted this several days ago (prior to the pickoff fiasco), but he's either 1st or 2nd on the team in pretty much every offensive category you can name. He's also leading in a variety of sabermetric categories. He's obviously struggled in certain situations and gone through some slumps, but it's going to be a real shame for this team to lose its 2nd best hitter in the offseason.

Chris: This team has so much offense to spare that we won't even notice Werth is gone.

Heather, the offense sans Vic, Howard and Chase was willing to the serve the ball the other way, take a walk, lay down a bunt for a hit, try to hit a looping single. Now, it's swing for the fendes and hope you connect. And that's the kind of offense that gets shut down.

Chris in VT, he's obviously talented, but did you see that at bat in the 9th inning last night by Werth? Lyon through the same pitch, high and just off the plate all three times.

The first time, Werth flew open, tried to put it in the left field seats and missed it. Okay, he'll adjust and not get beaten like that again.

The second pitch, in practically thes ame location, Werth flew open and tried to deposit it in the left field seats, missing the ball completely again. Alright, we think, fooled him twice, isn't going to happen a third time.

The third pitch was the exact same pitch. What did Werth do...flew way open and tried to put it in the left field seats. The ignominious result of this putrid approach at the plate down 1 run at home; a 3 pitch strikeout and shameful walk back to the dugout.

He deserves more to be benched for his at bat last night than his baserunning blunder in the first game.

"Heather, the offense sans Vic, Howard and Chase was willing to the serve the ball the other way, take a walk, lay down a bunt for a hit, try to hit a looping single."

On a related point I have been wondering for a while, it is bizarre that a lot of our speediest guys will NEVER EVER bunt for a hit, no matter what kind of slump they are mired in.

They wouldn't even have to do it often...just often enough the defense would know it is a possibility. A bunt single followed by a steal is as effective as a double...just less flashy.

I wonder if the entire coaching staff encourages the players to swing for the fences or if Rollins, Victorino, et al. simply refuse to do anything else.

I have to imagine it's the former as I just don't see the staff encouraging bunt singles and the players blatantly refusing.

Lineup: Rollins, Utley, Polly, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, Vic, Schneider, KK.

With an offense that has been awful, the team fighting for its life in the WC/divisional races, and a very tough left-hander on the mound for the Astros, if ever there were a day when Cholly should have broken the rule that the backup catcher must play in a day game following a night game, today was that day.

"Heather, the offense sans Vic, Howard and Chase was willing to the serve the ball the other way, take a walk, lay down a bunt for a hit, try to hit a looping single. Now, it's swing for the fendes and hope you connect. And that's the kind of offense that gets shut down."

Yeah, but that should be also the kind of offense that can hit 2-3 HRs a game when they're clicking. I get that HR hitting heavy offense can be feast or famine but so far I've seen a lot of famine and not a lot of feast.

I'll quote Todd Zolecki: Jayson Werth is hitting .157 (17-for-108) with RISP this season. Thanks ranks 228th out of 228 players in the Majors.

Does anyone here actually know what Wilson Valdez hit while Utley was on the DL? He hit .246/.295/.346. Brown, another guy in for an injured regular: .209/.217/.372. Mike Sweeney: .243/.317/.270.

The Phils did very well in that stretch, and they did get some nice hitting from Gload, but to pretend that many of the regulars - Werth, Ruiz, Ibanez, and Polanco especially - weren't the biggest part of it is fantasy.

Utley has a .351 OBP since returning. He shouldn't be batting 3rd or 4th until he starts to hit with confidence, but if everyone else hadn't gotten clueless in the past 3 days it wouldn't be such a problem.

Really the hitting w RISP has been the biggest issue in this and the WSN series. I bet part of that is having Utley-Howard back-to-back in the middle of the lineup. Howard is 0-4 w RISP since his return (his BA w RISP was .476 during July). Utley's BA w RISP is .143 in August. Werth is hitting .150/.370/.200 w RISP in August (he's hitting .375/.368/.547 w the bases empty).

That's the middle of your order.

Ibanez is actually hitting .318/.429/.682 w RISP in August.

As much as studies show that batting order doesn't mean all that much, I'd love to see another lineup mix-up.

"if ever there were a day when Cholly should have broken the rule that the backup catcher must play in a day game following a night game, today was that day."

UC strikes me as the kind of guy that would rather lose doing it his way then win doing it another way. (And yes, I know I'll be flamed for saying that on general principal since it's a criticism...but like most baseball people, UC is remarkably inflexible toward doing a thing other than the way it's always been done.)

Why is Werth in the lineup again!!! He has been horrible, just let Francisco or Brown play already! Anyone can get a hit with no one on base, and after seeing that putrid at bat in the 9th where he swung at 3 straight pitches then looked dazed and showed no emotion!! Yea I am sick of him!

Not to let facts get in the way of a good story but Victorino has a .289 BA and a .373 OBP since returning, and he's hitting .339/.393/.581 from the right-side.

The fact that I think Werth is not doing well this season despite the fact that the stats say he is having a great year is proof that either the stats don't capture the full picture or that I have taken an unreasoning dislike to JW when I previously never had an issue with him.

Not sure which.

Werth should be in the lineup and leading off...in the 5 hole? Not so much.

Didn't Werth hit a HR last night? Hasn't he been the team's best overall hitter for a month? This team needs offense. Werth has his fair share of awful AB, esp. with men on base, but they need his bat right now.

Biggest issue is that the lineup has a bunch of rally killers in it. Even if Utley or Polly get on, Howard has just not been hitting and then Werth follows, who needs to change his approach with RISP it seems.

If Werth-Ibanez-Vic leadoff an inning, there's actually some promise there as the three of them have been among the team's beat hitters this month, but then you get to Schneider-Pitcher and any rally will probably end there.

Sophist, I don't think anyone here is blaming Victorino and his performance from the right side as the primary failure of this offense.

Heather, what was that bit from Fatalotti that you quoted twice? There seems to be this theory that the bench guys played like AS. The truth is that, aside from Gload, they didn't play that well from the plate, and most of the offense came from the regulars (Werth, Ruiz, Ibanez, Polanco, Rollins). Vic's returned but hit well overall since he came back.

This Werth apologetics is getting tiresome. He's a good players, a good hitter, and a rare 5 tool player, we get that. But, he's also displayed some mind boggling stupidity on the bases and has been abysmal with RISP, to the tune of worst hitter in the league in those situations.

Since when did it become a crime to complain about a player, even a good player, who is just not producing in many key spots? Why must we be beaten over the head with his numbers in this month or his numbers over this stretch, just because we complain that he often takes bad approaches at the plate (undeniable) and has not been driving in runs on a team that desperately, and I mean desperately, needs someone, anyone, to consistently drive in runs.

If this is the best year of Werth's career, as some would make it out to be, he'll have a very forgettable career.

Fatalotti - not defending Werth's gaffes on base or his approach with RISP. defending having him in the lineup. two different things.

I mean, just above your post:

"Why is Werth in the lineup again!!! He has been horrible, just let Francisco or Brown play already!"

Do you agree with this person?

"The fact that I think Werth is not doing well this season despite the fact that the stats say he is having a great year is proof that either the stats don't capture the full picture or that I have taken an unreasoning dislike to JW when I previously never had an issue with him."

I think what it says is that everyone's opinion of him has been colored by his struggles with RISP. "Can't see the forest for the trees" right now.

But NEPP is right that he'd be an ideal leadoff hitter right now. Sees a lot of pitches, gets on base at a good clip, tons of XB power, good speed, scores a ton of runs, can't drive anyone in. That is the type of hitter most teams would die to have leading off the order. He doesn't belong in the 5 hole right now. I think I'd rather have Vic or J-Roll in that spot.

It's the fans job to panic, not the team's, and especially not UC's. Besides, how can anyone accuse him of not trying new things. he's tried about 5,594 different lineups this season, give or take a few. The team hasn't been hitting in the clutch lately, but that will change.

Sophist, in case it wasn't really clear, I was trying to say this offense was performing better overall right before Howard, Utley, and Victorino came back. They were at least scoring enough runs to win games and series. I didn't do enough statistical work to prove whose fault it was or wasn't...just the ironic overall point that we were winning more games with the scrubs two weeks ago then we are with the regulars right now.

I wasn't trying to assign blame (or credit) to a specific person.

But, yeah, Werth's forgettable career in the postseason too I guess. Like his 35 postseason games for the Phils with 11 HR and .285/.393/.650. Pithy and cute but wrong.

Sophist, asking to put Brown in over Werth against Wandy Rodriguez is just plain dumb. Brown is still young, hasn't really proven he can consistently hit tough left handed pitching, and is an inferior defender to Werth. Francisco is just not a good player. So yes, I'd rather have Werth in the lineup.

Does that mean that I have any confidence that he'll have a big hit and knock in some runs? No.

I've read articles in the past that demonstrate that elite athletes who are told to "think" and "concentrate" about doing a task (in the study it was golfers who were told to concentrate over a short putt) performed measurably worse than elite golfers who were just told to go out and make the short putt.

I wonder if something similar might be happening with Werth. He's thinking or concentrating too much in pressure situations, thus measureably decreasing his performance (aka choking or the yips in golf).

Just throwing that out there as food for thought.

One bit of good news: while Phils offense looks terrible and Wandy's on a good stretch, his career and 2010 numbers are on the road are no good. 2.85 ERA at home / 5.30 ERA on the road. His underlying numbers (Ks, BBs, etc.) aren't much different so it probably doesn't mean anything, but it's something.

First of all Sophist, I have a name...

Are you watching the same Werth that I am, He is not a bad baseball player by any stretch, my premise is that the guy is killing us in CLUTCH situations, and he is showing no heart what so ever. He works the count very well which is something no one else on this team is doing very well, but at the same time the guy is swinging for a home run everytime someone is on base!

Sophist, when Werth gets inducted into Cooperstown, we'll both go to the induction ceremony together. I'll buy you a cup of coffee.

Forgive me for not slobbering over this guy's career so far. He's a good player, I don't deny that, but he is not above reproach for his atrocious RISP numbers this year. He simply has not done enough in his career to evade such criticism. If Howard and his gaudy numbers throughout his career aren't off limits, then I doubt you'll be able to put together any numbers for Werth that are going to change the fact this RISP numbers this year are inexcusable.

Fatalotti - You're changing the debate. At this point, his performance with RISP is not excusable. That AB in the 9th last night shows everyone why. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm responding to the notion that he should be benched. He's no HOF, but he's performed very well or the team, even more so in the playoffs. I just take issue with the idea that his failures this year should blind people to what the best baseball decision is (keeping him in the lineup) or to his career so far (forget him. What has he done for us?).

Although no one was on base in that AB. Funny that I said that.

I think the participants in this argument are talking past each other.

Fatalotti, et al., say that Werth is a fine player but is coming up enormously small in clutch situations this year & deserves to be criticized for it. Absolutely true.

Sophist says that Werth has been one of the team's best overall hitters this year & its hottest hitter in August, and belongs in the lineup. Absolutely true.

I'm not sure what the argument is about.

BAP, that sounds about right.

Werth's performance with men on isn't inexcusable, it's intolerable. But, I will crap in my hat if Manuel sits him against hte lefty today, in favor of the rookie. I think these slumps feed on themselves. (Other than Utley, who's just not swinging the bat well at all). Something's gotta break. Maybe they put it together for the getaway game. Maybe they don't and htey all get loaded on the plane to California (except for Sweeney, who can practice smiling and hugging everyone in the lav), do some impromptu AC/DC karaoke, and come out tomorrow looser and more confident.

I believe the argument is if he is TOO tall to play 3B

"Although no one was on base in that AB. Funny that I said that."

Actually it's not, if you buy the argument that Werth is thinking too much in high pressure situations and thus choking. High pressure situations would best be represented by instances with RISP, but could also be present in a situation like last night (9th inning, 1 run down, a HR ties the game.)

The Pittsburgh Paradox - Should the Pirates spend money to win ballgames?

http://www.slate.com/id/2265068

Good review of the financial documents leaked to Deadspin.

"How can you be so successful while spending so little money? Basically, you have to rely on young, cheap players. The Pirates appear to be moving in this direction; they have a significant minor league player development budget, and they don't appear to be shy about spending money to sign their draft picks.

A little luck helps, too. Statistically, in any given season, one out of every six teams will be lucky enough to exceed its talent level by six wins or more. And one team per season, on average, will exceed its talent by as many as 11 wins. (Admittedly, if you're waiting for that team to be yours … well, it could take a while.)

So if you're a little bit smart, and very, very lucky, you could wind up with a few young, cheap players that could lead you to a playoff berth. But it would seem that for small-market teams like Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh, established stars cost too much to pay for themselves.

It would be nice for the fans if the Pirates were willing to lose millions of dollars in order to bring a competitive team to their loyal supporters. But even superrich owners are looking for some kind of return on their investment. In the end, the Pirates can spend a lot of money on player salaries, or they can turn a profit. They can't do both."

Sophist, I will never harbot any ill will for any of the 2008-2009 WS players or ever forget what a player has done for this team in the past. Even when Brad Lidge was having, historically, the worst season for a closer EVER, I pulled for him EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. he was out there. I appreciate every single thing Werth did for this team over the past couple years.

He drove in the game winning run in game 4 of the NLDS last year off Huston Street, a very tough righty closer. He drove in the first go ahead run in game 5B of the 2008 WS. He threw behind Corey Hart in the 2008 NLDS and picked him off at first base on a short fly ball. His huge HR in game 4 of the WS to really put a capper on that beating we gave the Rays. I loved him int eh playoffs the last two years, and I'll never forget what he's done for this team.

I just wish he would drive in some friggin' runs this year, that's all.

No ill will Sophist.

Hugh: I'm with you that Werth's performance with RISP is intolerable. I'm with you that his failures are feeding on themselves & that it's in his head now. But, if you're implying that Cholly should sit Werth for Brown (and it's not clear if you are, but it seems you might be), then you've lost me.

You've got a guy who has been an enormously productive hitter this year, but has failed only when runners are on base or in scoring position. The appropriate remedy, which would minimize the damage from Werth's failures, while still leaving his productive bat in the lineup, would be to move him to a spot in the order where he's less likely to come up with RISP. But that, of course, would mean moving our .245-hitting shortstop out of the leadoff spot, to which he is so perfectly suited.

BAP, you make probably the most cogent and persuasive argument. Werth is a good hitter who, this year at least, is being utilized incorrectly, which is leading to infighting amongst the BL commenters.

This can't go on any longer, for our sakes.

Generic Secretary - Excuse me, Mr. Amaro?

Amaro - Yes?

GS - This envelope just arrived?

Amaro - {shrugs} Can you just bring it with the rest of the mail?

GS - It says: "URGENT. SPECIAL DELIVERY."

Amaro - Who's it from?

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Amaro - {grabs it} Just let me see..."Nacho Boy NeMo?" Who's that?

GS - I don't know, sir. What's it say?

Amaro - {opening the envelope} Nothing...just "heh, heh, heh."


"The appropriate remedy, which would minimize the damage from Werth's failures, while still leaving his productive bat in the lineup, would be to move him to a spot in the order where he's less likely to come up with RISP. But that, of course, would mean moving our .245-hitting shortstop out of the leadoff spot, to which he is so perfectly suited."

So, in other words, what I'm reading is that you feel that UC is refusing to put his players in the position where they can best succeed? Why do you think that might be?

MG, big problem is that the Pirates stand to gain very little by spending more right now, esp. compared to, say, the Red Sox (whom they traded Bay to). Spending on the draft or find some market inefficiency (which the draft really is in a big way right now) is all they can do unless they want to be in the red.

Sophist - They can spend a bit more on player development especially overseas which was woefully underfunded. I know they did build a new baseball academy in the Dominician Republic in the last year or so and have started to send some more funds in the area.

It seems like the problem the Pirates have is not the amount of money they're spending, but that they haven't been spending it the right way. You can have a low budget payroll if you draft and develop well.

MG, right. that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

"So, in other words, what I'm reading is that you feel that UC is refusing to put his players in the position where they can best succeed? Why do you think that might be?"

Because he believes, in the course of a long season, that his players will succeed. Not really a crazy thought.

b_a_p: Not sure how it was ambiguous. I do not want to crap in my hat, ergo, I do not want Manuel to sit Werth today in favor of Brown.

Sitting Werth is stupid...so is batting him 5th. Bat him leadoff.

Either way, I'd still rather have him in the lineup than not have him in the lineup.

Heather: I think Cholly is too often blinded by the optimum scenario, and it never even enters his mind that the optimum scenario has little chance of actually happening. Last year, Brad Lidge was his closer because, when he's on, Brad Lidge is our best closer. Never mind that he had one of the worst seasons that any closer has ever had; eventually, they'd "get him right" and he'd be 2008 Lidge all over again & everyone would be happy.

Likewise, our offense is no doubt at its best when Rollins is hitting well, stealing bases, and getting tons of extra base hits. But, unfortunately, that version of Jimmy Rollins hasn't existed since 2008 -- and, even 2008 was a huge drop-off from what he'd been in 3 of the 4 previous seasons. In Cholly's mind, though, Rollins is still the same player he has always been & it's only a matter of time before he starts hitting like he did back in 2006 & 2007. Who knows? Maybe Cholly will eventually prove to be right & the current 1,036-PA sample size will be exposed as a statistical fluke.

I just don't have any confidence that they're going to win today's game. If a gem from Blanton, a great game from Hamels and Halladay don't get you wins at home against the Astros, then what reason should you have they'll get a win today when your fifth starter is facing off against a tough lefty?

Hugh: Well, intonation gets lost in Internet posting. You said that Werth's performance was intolerable, and then you brought up the subject of making a change & said it would never happen. It wasn't clear, but this could certainly be interpreted as an implied criticism of Cholly for not taking Werth out of the lineup.

Fatalotti - I'm enamored of their chances to win with Kendrick today in the same way that I think hte Chewbacca defense is a sure-fire path to acquittal from major felony charges.

b_a_p - obviously. that's why I clarified.

The start by Halladay was a weird one. He had absolutely filthy stuff and was just mowing down their lineup, as evidence by his 73 pitches through 7 innings of work. He made maybe 3 mistakes all night, and 2 of them were crushed for HRs, one by Michael Bourn of all people. Although Halladay deserves some of the blame for the L last night, he actually pitched better than his line of 7 IP and 3 ER indicates, and that's a good line by itself.

I guess that's just the way things are going for the Phillies right now.

I wonder if Tom McCarthy wears high pants like Eddie Wade? Has anyone ever seen him up close and noticed?

My ankles are already in bad shape from the previous times I jumped off the bandwagon this season.

Anyone else notice how giddy Wheels was when the replay showed Francisco as being out at 3rd? he can't wait until he is able to crow about what a tough job the umps have and reminding the fans that we are all quick-reacting morons who just don't appreciate the position these poor umps are in every game.

I cannot f**king believe we are harnaguing Jayson Werth, who is hitting .300/.390/.523 on the year and .321/.400/.512 in August. Jesus Christ people.

Hey Phylan, two numbers and a word in between:

7 FOR 108.

yeh, let's lay off of Werth. His key Leiberthal-esque blast in last night's game was key. Was there anyone on at the time?? And much thanks to the fan who loosened the railing over the section 145 flower bed to allow that ball to leave the park.....

So, is BL the home of hyperbolic vitriole, or vitriolic hyperbole?

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"And, oh yeah, BP Postseason odds drop again, now at 35%. Posted by: EastFallowfield | Thursday, August 26, 2010 at 08:19 AM"

Anyone else having doubts about the phillies reaching the post season? If they make it - will they be limping in? (Psychologically speaking)

Re: last night’s game, besides the Werth HR, the team has not hit worth a D****. IMO, the 3rd base pick-off of BenFran was equally as bad affect as the Werth pick-off.

It's an embarrassment to have pitching performances by H2O, & even Blanton – yet have nothing to show for it. To lose 3 crucial games to Meyers, Happ and Norris is a definition of embarrassment. Meyers sticking out his tongue after the Werth pick-off shows me how much he's grown up since leaving Philly.

Atlanta does not play today, but they play at home against a depleted FLA, so the time to gain ground on the Braves (phase1) is pretty much over and will have to wait for phase2 which starts with start of the next braves- phils series

To reiterate: I think H & U s/ have stayed on the DL to rehab a little longer to get their timing back and shake off the rust. Coming back early & playing like this isn't doing the team any favors.

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