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Friday, February 19, 2010


From the end of last thread:

"I'm not big into WAR or VORP "

awh, I think that is the best thing you have ever said.

Regarding the rest of your post, you are exactly right. With the Mets you never know. They can be a good team or they can be pretty bad.

My whole point is keep a close eye on them in April when they usually jump off to fast starts. If they don't in 2010, similiar to 2009, it could be a long year in Queens.

In regards to the tailend of the last thread: It would be fantastic if KK is a huge pleasant surprise this year. I personally hope he is.

If he isn't, can we blame Halladay for not sufficiently helping him this spring? That goes both ways right?


A few threads ago - and pretty much a bunch of times littered through the offseason - people post Hamels' FIP and peripherial stats and come up with the conclusion that he was as good as he was in 2008 as 2009.

My general take from watching Hamels last year was that he couldn't finish hitters while getting ahead, and that led to him getting stuck in big innings which in 2008 he avoided. With that thought I went to fangraphs and saw his swing% stats.

out of the zone swing% from 08 to 09: -4%
in the zone swing% from 08 to 09: +2.1%

Thats a +6% jump in swings from 'out of the zone to 'into the zone' in a year where he had very similiar fastball/change/curve %s, total swing%, and in/out of the zone pitch %s.

To me, that explains why his BAA(and BABIP) took a huge jump in 2009 and made him much less effective. He had a much harder time fooling batters and putting them away outside of the zone.

besides him being a moron, the cutter is probably the worst thing that happened to Myers.

Isn't is a known fact that cutters generally take away from the 4 seamers velocity over the course of a season? If you can't get one to move like Mariano, then its probably not worth the effort into throwing.

I thought it was the splitter that took away from the velocity. Myers injury in 07 (thanks Barajas) may have been the main culprit as to why he phased it out. In the 06 season you could see he was effectively pitching inside against righties since he had that nice tail that would come back over the plate. But his cutter in 08 and 09 had much more sink.

Holy hell Moyer looks like he aged 10 years.

Re: Hagen - Kendrick also hid a groin injury, says he's OK now. Get ready for some Bulldog in the Headlights.

Cipper - I saw a shot of Moyer too on the news and man he looks old. Thought he was a coach at first since I had the TV on low.

KK's record in 2010:

35 GS, 24-4, 234 IP, 2.74 ERA.

Honestly, I think the only reason we even traded for Roy Halladay was so he could tutor Kyle Kendrick...otherwise, what was the point?

Moyer looked old in 2008 too...just a bit more gray than he already was.

Comment I got from my fiancee when we were watching the WS DVD "Wow, that guy looks like he's 50."

"Nope, only 46." -me

Thing I like about KK:
- He's 25
- He has 24 wins
- He has a career ERA of 4.66

I might not be the most intelligent person on this site, but I think that's pretty damn good.

NEPP, I'll be satisified with this:

Halladay 18-7, 220 IP, 3.10 ERA
Hamels 15-9, 205 IP, 3.45 ERA
Blanton 13-10, 195 IP, 4.15 ERA
Happ 12-10, 190 IP, 4.20 ERA
Kendrick/Moyer......if the top 4 guys do the above the 5th guy won't matter too much.

Well OK. I am just guessing about Roy and Kyle but I have been guessing right lately. And you're right UNI if you have DITHL as a budding analysis stat you must have BITHL.

Oh and he said Hi to me at Coca-Cola stadium when my room mate was playing DeSales. That was pretty cool.

awh: I will be thrilled with that output from our rotation as well.

But is that a prediction?


Will you be making one?

Because I know awh, "don't make no stinkin' predictions".

To piggyback off of AWH's post above. Worth noting, IF awh's not prediction, but "satisfied season" from our rotation, with saying the 5th starter pitches around 180 innings that means the bullpen will only be responsible for 468 innings in 2010.

2009: bullpen pitched 492.0 Innings
2008: bullpen pitched 483.0 Innings

And the awh numbers may be on the low end for Halladay (220 IP). Hallday can very easily pitch 230-240 IP, which he has done 4 times in the alst 8 seasons.

If the starters can handle 990 innings this season (6.11 IP/start), which is very very do-able with this staff, IMO.

This is why our bullpen will be better off than last year, they will not be burned out as much. 30+ IP less for the bullpen in a season WILL make a huge difference.

Since CHoP hasn't signed with anyone yet does anyone think that the Phils could sign him to an incentive loaded contract?
Or is he just waiting to sign with a team that has a Spring injury?
I would like to hear others thought on this.

Rev: Ehh, I don't think so. I just finished reading Paul Hagan's live chat from Clearwater and he says the Phillies like what they see from Bastardo, Zagurski, Escalona and Mathieson.

So judging from that I think if they need an extra bullpen arm that they will use one of those guys on a limited basis.

Also, on the live chat Hagan was asked about whether Gload or Dobbs could be traded by the end of ST for another polished RH-bat.

To which, Hagan said Gload no, but Dobbs is available.

That is interesting and wonder if that happens....

Trade Dobbs? I guess I could see it. Though I dont know what we'd get for him in return.

I'd be surprised if we traded either.

to awh: Yeah, I'd be completely content with that result for our pitching staff.

Because Gload was signed as a free agent I don't think he can be traded before June. I do not know the exact rule but I think that is close.

****Because Gload was signed as a free agent I don't think he can be traded before June. I do not know the exact rule but I think that is close. ****

I believe its "60 days on active roster" so yeah...that would be correct I believe.

There's no reason to trade him...or Dobbs really. Both serve roles on the bench that are needed. Francisco is a good enough RH bat at the moment.

MVP: I was just thinking since the team keeps saying that they hope Contreras will be this years CHoP, why not bring him in on a low guaranteed deal with lots of incentives.
Plus they know what they are getting from him and from what I read he was liked in the clubhouse.
This is a win now team and I think it would make sense to at least explore the option.

NEPP: I agree. Just saying what Hagan said in response to the question.

Rev: Agree on the idea of signing CHoP, but I agree with the Phillies when they want to see what those 4 young guys can offer. Plus, the latest I read is that CHoP is gaining interest from the Cubbies and Yanks.

UC clearly had issues with Chan Ho...he's dropped enough hints about it this winter. I dont think they ever seriously considered bringing him back.

thephaithful: For reasons I don't fully understand Doobs does not appear to respect the curveball.

Myer's 12-6 yellow hammer was his best pitch, yet he threw it less often with the cutter replacing it to a certain extent. I assume this is because of Dubee. Happ also had a great yakker in the minors, but abandoned it when he went to the pen, I assume at Dubee's suggestion, and didn't try to get it back when he joined the rotation.

Personally, if a guy has a good cruve I wouldn't mess with it, I'd encourage it.

NEPP: That's exactly right.

Clout: Was Happ's Curve rated as a good curve? And doesn't it cause more stress on the elbow then a cutter or slider?

Rev: Yes and yes.

I don't know about anyone else, but Hamels has a terrible curveball that tends to become batting practice more often than not. He's better as a two pitch pitcher than trotting out that stinker of a curve.

It's always a good idea to learn another pitch. But Cole and the curveball are not a match made in heaven. His problem last year wasn't that he didn't have enough different pitches. It's where he threw those pitches in the zone. And since it's been established he was out of shape, and possibly pitching injured all last season, all that is needed is a healthy Hamels.

The last thing I ever want to see again is that looping, hittable Hamels curveball.

Clout - I never saw Happ pitch in the minors. But when he first came up to the majors a couple years ago and started, he threw his curve. It was barely adequate. In fact, it didn't even look much like a curve.

aksmith: There is more than one kind of changeup and I wonder if Hamels would be better served throwing 2 kinds of changeups (i.e. circle change and palmball) plus his fastball as opposed to a curve that he's never commanded. A good curveball is fairly rare. Most pitchers just can't throw them. Changeups, sliders and cutters are easier to command.

aksmith: Then your eyes saw something different than mine. Or he just didn't have it the day you saw him.

Hamels should start throwing a forkball and completely destroy his elbow.

In all seriousness, he might be better served by working on variations of his changeup like clout suggests...and perhaps work a bit more on his 2 seamer as well.

It is kind of hilarious how every spring you hear story after story before the actual games about how nearly every player looks great, etc.

Take whatever you here about Zagurksi, Escalona, Mathieson, KK, or even Hamels looks with a grain of salt.

Only thing to really take away form the first few days in camp is if a guy shows up on time and when pitchers had offseason surgery are set to actually take the mound again.

aksmith: Just to be clear, I'm not saying Happ's curve is his best pitch. It isn't. It's his 3rd best pitch, after his fastball and change. But when I saw him in the minors it was a good pitch and I was sorry to see him drop it last year.

Here's my 10 to watch list (written originally for a non-BL audience):

1. Cole Hamels - He supposedly worked on his curveball and will be working on it all spring training. He's also working on a slider so it should be interesting to see how hard he gets hammered the first couple of Grapefruit League starts as he uses them in game action.

2. J.A. Happ - Happ is working on a 2 seamer/sinker to compliment his current arsenal of various fastball iterations. He threw primarily 4 seamers and cutters last year to go with his slider and change. That should give him a different look and with his height, it could be a very effective pitch if he perfects it.

3. Placido Polanco - How well will he transition to fielding 3B again. He is a great fielder and he has the arm strength so it shouldn't be too rough of a transition. Should be fun the first couple times he gets a screamer down the line though.

4. Brad Lidge - If and when he's healthy again, it should be interesting to see where his velocity/control is at for his fastball as well as his pickoff move (something that was non-existent in 2009). He's about 2 weeks behind the other pitchers in camp for readiness. Odds are he won't be ready for Opening Day.

5. Antonio Bastardo - Antonio had an absolutely fantastic winter and fall. He pitched lights out in the Dominican League (equivalent of AA/AAA competition) and he's been fully converted to a relief role. He was able to sit 93-95 as a reliever at Reading last year and he was typically low 90s (89-91) as a starter at the MLB level. It will also be interesting to see where his changeup and slider were at. His change was supposedly his best pitch as a minor-leagure but he never really got comfortable using it in the Majors. Going into April, he'll likely be the only LH pitcher in the bullpen.

6. Scott Mathieson - Scott is coming back from his 2nd TJ surgery and might finally be healthy. He was regularly hitting 97mph in the Arizona Fall League and was pretty unhittable in limited action last year in the minors. He could be a sleeper to make the team out of the bullpen if Moyer, Lidge and Romero all aren't ready by Opening Day.

7. Phillippe Aumont - He got a Major League invite so we'll get at least a couple weeks of him against MLB hitters. While he's at least a full year or so away, this will be a good benchmark to see where he's at as a prospect.

8. John Mayberry Jr - Barring injury, he'll start the year in Lehigh. However, he had a strong winter in the Mexican League where he was sent to work on hitting breaking balls. He batted over .300 there so hopefully he can build on that success. He's not really a prospect anymore as he's into his Age 27 season but he might end up as a decent platoon OF. I wouldn't be stunned if he is traded after a strong Spring. Between Ben Francisco and Dewayne Wise, he's pretty unneccessary as an insurance piece and he might be a decent bargaining chip to pick up another pitcher.

9. Dom Brown - He's our last elite prospect. While he'll start the year in Reading, he's not that far away when its all said and done. His only chance of seeing the Majors will be as a Sept callup but it will be good to see how he does against advanced pitching. He hasn't had a breakout year yet but he's always been young for his league in the minors. Still, he's got the making of an All-Star RF.

10. Kyle Kendrick - This is it for Kyle. This will be his last chance to be an MLB pitcher. If he can't beat out a hobbled 47 year old Jamie Moyer and AAA retreads like Drew Carpenter and Ryan Vogelsong for the 5th starter position, I see no point in keeping him around. Hopefully he builds on his strong Sept last year and shows us something worth keeping.

My ST report: Everyone looks great, has lost weight, and is really excited to start the year.

I'll check back in when they start playing actual games.

MG: Tuffy Goosewurst says he's in the best shape he's ever been in his life.

The fact that a good portion of the team has been working out in Clearwater for a few weeks already and many are in great shape is not the norm for every baseball team.

There are teams out there where the players come to camp as late as possible, are out of shape, don't give a damn about it and aren't leading from the front.

The team is full of the right kind of player...we should all appreciate that.

Wow, NEPP says if KK doesn't win the 5th starter spot he should be cut. I can't imagine anyone picking him up if so, because as NEPP has noted, he can't possible succeed with that low K/9.

Say goodbye to KK. The experts have spoken.

I didn't say he should be cut...just that there's really no point if he can't even beat out Moyer at Age 47. The 5th position is his to lose at this point.

NEPP - Good list. I would omit Aumont and Brown just because I don't really what their stats look like the first 2 weeks of games against split squads and a bunch of journeyman/bench players/minor leaguers.

I would move KK much further up the list, add Contreras (curious to see what he shows in spring training if he is used exclusively as a reliever), and add Escalona (don't think Romero will be ready to start the season he is the likely call up option if Bastardo gets hurt in the early going).

MG: I am sure I will get to see plenty of Tuffy as my godfather as season ticket to the RPhils and I have caught a fair amount of games at Municipal Stadium since moving back to the East Coast.

Oh, and FWIW, KK's SO/9 ratio last year was a respectable 5.1 (as a Phillie). That's more than good enough.

If you go through the last few years of comments, you'll see me say again and again, "In order to be an effective MLB starter, KK needs to develop a changeup." If his change really is improved, we'll see a rise in his SO rate and he'll be a decent back end starter. I've stayed consistent on that point since his rookie year. I have no vetted interest in seeing him fail. I'd love to have him succeed.

****Good list. I would omit Aumont and Brown just because I don't really what their stats look like the first 2 weeks of games against split squads and a bunch of journeyman/bench players/minor leaguers.

I would move KK much further up the list

I'm not so worried about the stats as much as seeing them pitch/play against teams with MLB talent on them. Dom Brown could hit .080 for all I care, I am curious to get a closer look at his approach at the plate and his fielding (routes, arm, etc). Same with Aumont and how he attacks hitters, pitch movement etc.

Oh, on the numbering, its not in any particular order...just 10 guys I feel are worth watching in Clearwater. #10 is no less interesting than #1 in my mind.

I think Hamels will bounce back regardless, but I do not have faith in his curveball. I would not mind seeing him try the cutter a little more.

I am as interested in seeing KK's slider as much as his changeup. One of the few guys I might actually try to watch on TV early in spring training to see how he looks.

****I am as interested in seeing KK's slider as much as his changeup.****

Yeah, me too. I will watch any and all ST games I can get. I'm ready for Baseball to be here.

Polanco isn't too much of a question for me. I think we know today that he will be an adequate but not great fielding 3B. And he will be an offensive upgrade over Feliz.

Ok so now that ST is here. We are going to start a new countdown right?

13 more days until the first ST game!

Cole Hamels should try a pitch that's a cross between a slider and a cutter.

He would be the first guy to try the 'slutter'.

Oh wait...I forgot about Tiger Woods.

"Yeah, me too. I will watch any and all ST games I can get."

Here is the ST schedule as of now:

March 4th vs.Yankees @ 1 -CSN
March 13th vs. Twins @ 1 - PHL 17
March 20th @ Tigers @ 1- PHL 17
March 21st vs Orioles @ 1- CSN
March 22nd vs. Yankees @ 1- ESPN
March 24th @ Braves @ 1- ESPN
March 28th vs. Pirates @ 1 - CSN (Split sqaud game)

Roy Halladay on On Scott Rolen giving him any advice on Philadelphia: "He actually said that I would love it. He said that you're going to love being there. I know that was probably tough for him based on the past few times back to Philadelphia, but I know he really enjoyed his time there. He seemed to think that I would, too."

Wha, wha, whaaaaaa?!?!?

(quote courtesy of Todd Zolecki Zo Zone)

hh, after Roy Halladay finished playing baseball whoever is president should nominate him for a high position in the diplomatic corps [ pronounced like "core"]. :)

espn insiders can go read Buster Olney's recent post about Cole Hamels.

From the looks of the first two or three paragraphs, it doesn't look to be anything different than we've see elsewhere.

NEPP: You must not have realized that you wrote this:

"This will be his last chance to be an MLB pitcher. If he can't beat out a hobbled 47 year old Jamie Moyer and AAA retreads like Drew Carpenter and Ryan Vogelsong for the 5th starter position, I see no point in keeping him around."

Buster Olney just regurgitated the Dubee quotes. Same stuff that was on all the Philly site yesterday.

Now that we have real baseball to talk about this might seem less interesting, but, the Hardball Times ranked the Phillies farm system dead last.

clout, again, if he can't beat out that fearsome threesome of candidates, he's just not a very good pitcher and that's that. I know you think he's the greatest prospect on earth but I'm a bit more realistic on the matter.

NEPP: I never said he's a great prospect. He isn't. He's a backender at best. His stuff is just average. He could easily end up as a middle-relief ROOGY type.

I'm simply making fun of you and the others who say he can't possibly succeed at the major league level because of his K/9. And, of course, the idiotic notion that if he has a bad spring and doesn't win the 5th starter job he should be cut because "this will be his last chance to be an MLB pitcher."

I usually don't jump on posts unless they're really, really stupid. Yours qualifies.

Will probably need a 6th starter, if not a 7th or more this year, so perhaps Kendrick will slide into one of those roles?

NEPP: the point is that your sense of urgency is entirely yours alone. The Phillies, being rational, have no reason to "discard" Kendrick--whatever that such reason exists. They control Kendrick well into the future, and a mere 5 weeks of leisure time baseball doesn't override that.

Admittedly, they did make the mistake last year of keeping Happ after Chan Ho demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that Happ sucked--isn't that what his winning the 5th starter job necessarily implied?--costing the Phillies dearly. So on second thought, I do see your point...

BobbyD: I'm curious why you think Polanco's ceiling on defense at 3B is "adequate"?

Is 3B a harder position to play than 2B? Is the footwork trickier? Does it require more range?

Why is it that Klaus can make the same point I do in response to a stupid post, but it reads so much better and sounds more sensible?

From now on, I step aside for Klaus.

Clout - 2b may be a tick harder than third, but they do require different skills.

3B you need a strong arm obviously and need better reaction time.

2B is basically range.

People who have played both positions would tell you that. And many would prefer to play 2B over 3B because you get much more time to react the the ball and throw it.

So yes, one could go from a good 2b to an adequate 3b.

CY: Agree with your first point because 3B plays closer to the hitter, but 2B is a lot more than range. Turning the DP, for instance.

And you appear to have missed my point. Obviously someone could go from good 2b to adequate 3b. But why would you think that "adequate" is the best you could do in making the switch?

Morosi has a piece up on the Mets titled "Mets are confident but deluded".

There are a few references to out Phils.

A couple of my favorites"

"The Mets aren’t going to beat the Phillies in 2010. No one in the league has the talent or the guts to do that. "

"There are maybe two lineups in the NL that are capable of pressuring Halladay -- and one of them is the team he plays for, the Phillies. "


cliff lee is the sunday conversation on espn. make it go away.

Clout and Tommy are more alike than they'd like to believe. They both have irrational man-crushes that lead them to defend things which, statistically, have no defense.

I'd like to see this board after Kendrick no-hitter in which Mayberry hits four home runs.

Clout - understood on your point. Ceiling was the wrong term to use I suppose.

Turning that DP at second is a lot easier than charging a slow hit ball or bunt, barehanding it and throwing across your body.

2B is only more important because you have your hands on the ball more. It isn't "harder" imo.

Oh, wow most BLers are going to LOVE this:

Sarge Matthews on 610 and said 2 somewhat crazy yet interesting points:

1.) Says "I think Happ can be the #2 pitcher this seaosn, with Cole moving to #3"

2.) When asked who is going to replace Werth in RF, Sarge says "There are alot of guys in the system with potential, but if you had to ask me now, I would have to say Mayberry has the potential to take over in RF in 2011"...


I liked this quote from that piece awh posted a link to:

"More recently, the Phillies have done more than just catch and pass the Mets in the East, they’ve become the league’s most fearless team."

The league's most fearless team. Sounds tough, intimidating even!

I played second base, when I was a little leaguer/ CYO ball, then moved over to shortstop in high school and then they tried to put me at third because I had a good enough arm. I hated third base. It is not like the middle infield in any meaningful way. I didn't wear a cup unless I played third. It's like playing goalie.

As usual, I get more information, knowledge and entertainment from reading the comments in a BL thread than I do from anything in the Inqy or DN or ESPN.

That's what you get for listening to 610. Sarge is the Brian Fellows of player evaluation.

'Tell that goat to stop staring at me!'

Also, every team needs 7+ starters EVERY year. As long as KK has options, he has value to this team.

RodeoJones: I know. I am not taking him seriously, that's why I posted the Cole comment as well.

I just knew that any quotes involving Mayberry must be posted.

tommy, if that is true, then Sarge obviously has a much higher opinion of Happ than anyone else I've heard or read.

I wonder what precipitated those comments?

One, he may actually think that Happ is metally tougher/more mature than Cole and as a result will pass him. (Translation: Lake Fred's 'Heidi & Cole' conversations are dead accurate.)

Two, maybe he just thinks Happ has more 'talent' because of a greater repetoire of pitches and thinks he'll develop into a better pitcher.

Three, maybe he thinks Happ has better "pitchability" - whatever that is?

Lastly, and this is the conspiracy theorist in me coming out, maybe Sarge was put up to it by his employers in the FO because they expect it to get back to Cole and hope it will light a fire under him.

Who knows?

Rodeo - Using the transitive property, I think you just called mvptommy Brian Fellows.

A Fan: Another post by you that shows that, in addition to being a coward, you don't read the board. Calling a guy mediocre is not a "mancrush."

tommy - I know. I got the sarcasm of your WOW at the end. It was more of a comment on listening to 610. 97.5 FTW (except during the morning, there is no sports talk anywhere in the morning)

CY: "Turning that DP at second is a lot easier than charging a slow hit ball or bunt, barehanding it and throwing across your body."

Are you serious?


Sarge must be working with Mayberry in the offseason. So far, Mayberry has eating and hat wearing down.

aksmith: Two important MLB skills.

Sarge largely doesn't add much as a color guy but he has grown on me. Frankly if he gave more BBQ tips I would enjoy his broadcast time even more.

MG: When it comes to BBQ, Sarge is no Garry Maddox.

"Frankly if he gave more BBQ tips I would enjoy his broadcast time even more."

This is beerleaguer. Awesome.

Sarge. Just looking at him makes me chuckle.

ESPN has got a bunch of Halladay coverage up right now with a Stark article and a interview with Ravech. I am getting incredibly psyched to watch this guy pitch. I've not seen him a lot before, but from what I've heard and what I've read I couldn't be more excited. Everything about this guy seems like a great fit and, assuming he stays healthy, he's going to own this league.

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but being a Phils fan is absolutely great, at least right now. This season should be a ton of fun to watch.

I see from reading Mr. Zolecki that Chad Durbin is joining Roy, Kyle and Cole at the pre-dawn workout. 'Through another steak on the barbie Brandy, Chad's coming over with Kyle and Cole'.

Clout - Honestly I was younger when Maddox was on. It is funny how animated Sarge gets when they either bring food into the booth or start discussing it especially BBQ.

Couple points: While I admit I didn't really see either of them in the minors, from what I've seen at the major league level (and given how rarely they both throw it, it's not much), Hamels' curve > Happ's curve.

Also, while 2B is certainly harder than 3B, that doesn't mean someone who's good at 2B will automatically be good at 3B. The skillsets are different enough that while being good at 2B is certainly a good indicator of being good at 3B, I certainly don't think it guarantees it.

I'll be very interested to see Polanco's defense this year.

As long as Polanco pretends he's at bat with two strikes he should at least make contact with the ball, given his range, 109/110 times.

Jack: So you would agree that a good fielding secondbaseman isn't limited to being simply adequate at 3B?

The only question for Polly is his arm and the FO says that's not a problem.

I am impressed that you now realize 2B is a tougher position requiring more skill than 3B. It's generally considered one of the top 4 most important defensive spots (along with SS, CF and C) on the field, although I realize that is not true for posters here who consider 3B the most or second most important position.

Third basemen just need to be tall. Polly's only 5'10". I don't think there's been a Beerleaguer analysis of how vertical leap can overcome being vertically challenged.

Clout: I've always recognized that 2B is one of the most important defensive positions. It's why I've claimed Chase Utley is one of the top 3 players in all of baseball, because of his offensive and defensive dominance at a key position, one where defense is important and offense scarce.

What I said about 3B was that, while not as important a defensive position, defense still matters there. A run saved is a run saved, no matter where it happens, and I recognized that Feliz had value because he saved runs as a plus defender at 3B. You thought sticking Dobbs and Helms out at 3B was fine because apparently runs given up by bad defensive 3B don't count.

Jack: Please don't put words in my mouth. I was very much in favor of the Phillies upgrading from Dobbs/Helms. I just didn't think Feliz was much of an upgrade because of hos bad he was on offense. You argued that 3B was so important that it didn't matter what Feliz did at bat because he was a "gold glove" fielder.

Somebody penned that Halladay would go 18-7. Anything less than 34-0 is a disappointment.

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