Just a few notes before game time. Left-hander
Scott Eyre writes on his blog that the mild ankle sprain he suffered last night won’t keep him out of action this afternoon. Reports from Coors Field observed Eyre walking without a limp, and trainer Scott Sheridan gave a thumbs up after a morning workout, according to the team. Left-handers have played a significant role in the Phillies' strategy this series. ... Lineups have been issued with no surprises, although the Rockies will have Seth Smith starting in right field. ... Temperatures are expected in the mid-40s for the first pitch and will dip to 38 degrees by the end of the game. ... The Phillies are hoping to avoid a Game 5, which has been slated for 8:07 p.m. tomorrow night at Citizens Bank Park.
(Reposted from previous thread)
Possible good news ...
(via Zolecki on Twitter): "No update on Scott Eyre, although Manuel said Eyre didn't appear to be limping this morning."
(via Lauber on Twitter): "Awaiting an official medical update on Scott Eyre, but Charlie Manuel said there's been no talk of replacing him on roster."
Posted by: G-Town Dave | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 03:58 PM
When he went down, it looked like he was shot.
Good to see!
So did Brad Hawpe get caught with Jim Tracy's daughter or something?
Posted by: NEPP | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:00 PM
Let's go with a complete game from Cliff to make this moot, shall we?
Posted by: keith | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:04 PM
I'm a bit worried about Lee tonight. Last week he had a few days worth of stubble. Now he's clean-shaven. Not nearly as intimidating.
Ballplayers should adopt the NHL tradition of playoff beards.
Posted by: ozark | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Playoff beards, certainly if any cold weather teams are possible venues.
Posted by: joe l | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:18 PM
clout: I saw your comparison of the Dodgers' staff to other playoff staffs, but I think this is one area where single-season stats don't really capture the essence of the argument. Yes, Randy Wolf has had a fine year. But do you really think he's better than Josh Beckett, Jered Weaver, and John Lackey, and nearly equal to CC Sabathia & Ubaldo Jimenez (as their 2009 ERA+ would indicate)? Do you really think Jon Garland and AJ Burnett are equals? Do you really think Cole Hamels is worse than Jason Hammel, Jon Garland, and Chad Billingsley? And does Billingsley (a fine pitcher) even belong in the discussion, since the Dodgers themselves don't even seem sure that he's in their rotation?
Whatever his 2009 numbers, Randy Wolf has been a league average pitcher over his career. He does not have playoff experience &, in a playoff matchup against the likes of Sabathia, Burnett, Lee, Hamels, Jimenez, Lester, Beckett, or Lackey, I think most people would bet against Randy Wolf more often than not.
I would call the Dodgers' starting rotation deep, but not particularly strong at the top. Kershaw is tremendous, but there's no telling how a 21-year old with less-than-stellar command is going to respond as he goes through the post-season and the pressure increases. Billingsley is also a high-ceiling starter, but he really struggled in September & it's not clear what the Dodgers can expect to get from him in the post-season. If those 2 both perform to potential, yes, the Dodgers' rotation can match up with anyone's. But those are some big question marks -- particularly Billingsley.
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:21 PM
I wouldn't worry about the clean shaven Lee, I mean, he is still 6'3", so i'm not worried about it.
Posted by: joe | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:21 PM
But if you're tall AND have facial hair, look out!
Posted by: Old Phan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:24 PM
I guess the true barometer of your fanhood is when you're holding tickets for NLDS Game 5 (the only possible playoff game that you'd be able to attend, due to geographic proximity complexities) and you hope that you don't have to use them...
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:24 PM
Height is obviously a factor in determining skill, and when you add in facial hair, it definitely increases one's skill. However, facial hair should never be used a sole barometer of skills, otherwise the Gnome would be in the Hall of Fame already...
then again, technically, isn't he "in" the hall already with his jersey or something from last WS?...
Posted by: Cipper | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:33 PM
Beerleaguers are in a good, if not giddy, mood. Smell of victory in the air perhaps?
Posted by: limoguy | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Gnome is in the HoF twice for both the WS and his triple play.
Posted by: loctastic | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:35 PM
How the hell does a guy with a .903 OPS get left on the bench in 3 of the first 4 playoff games? Am I the only one who finds that utterly incomprehensible and downright bizarre?
Posted by: bay_area_phan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:39 PM
Hopefully the Phils watched a lot of video on what they did the second / third time through the lineup in Game 1 to get to Jiminez. They've generally fared better against each of these Rox pitchers when they have had a turn through the lineup. Hopefully that translates to seeing a guy a second time in quick succession.
Posted by: Spitz | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:39 PM
What was Lidge's "Brand new pitch" mentioned in the previous post?
Posted by: euphronius | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:40 PM
clout: i agree with your argument that the majority's opinion of a weak dodgers rotation is being overstated - which we all know is how you get your jollies - but listing a bunch of 2009 ERA+ numbers and indicating that Randy Wolf is on the same ground as CC Sabathia is not a very responsible peice of evidence.
Posted by: thephaithful | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:42 PM
Soo, then Pedro must play better with his 3 day scruff than when he is clean shaven. No only if he was 3 inches taller...
Posted by: Cipper | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:42 PM
euphronius - his cutter, he just started using it recently.
Posted by: loctastic | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:43 PM
They'll have Eyre wearing the high ankle style of cleats on that bad ankle. Their hats have earmuffs, Erye's shoes will have anklemuffs.
Posted by: Lake Fred | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:43 PM
euphronius - Lidge supposedly threw a cutter last night.
Mitch Williams said on WIP that if it was a cutter, it didn't cut in the same way he threw a fast ball to Joe Carter that wasn't fast.
Posted by: limoguy | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Anybody heard what the travel plans are if there is no Game 5? Wouldn't it make sense for the team to just fly from Denver to LA late tomorrow and get a couple days of SoCal R&R, rather than squeezing in two cross-country flights between tonight and Thursday?
Posted by: Sam Fan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Anyone else kind of think that Eyre wasn't even close to the bunt BEFORE he fell over? At first, I almost thought the fall on the ground was to hide some embarassment of simply being an overweight reliever who can't even field his own position.
Posted by: thephaithful | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:48 PM
To BAP: I dont get the benching of Hawpe either but I'm not complaining. It is a lesson of when "playing percentages" goes wrong.
Posted by: NEPP | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:54 PM
I've been out for a few hours and I hate that everyone working for/interviewed by MLBonXM seems to think Utley was out. The article on mlb.com even thinks he should have been called out for running inside the baseline for too long. Now that I've watched the video on mlb.com, I can see that the play is really, really close - It's difficult to tell whether Helton had the ball in his glove and his foot on the bag before Utley touched the base.
In my opinion, if the call was bad, that's a shame, but it happens. It was a close play, not an obvious error by the umpire. Is it my imagination, or is it being talked about as though Utley got away with something egregious?
Now, as far as the "hit" goes, I think that's obviously a bad call. Again, probably tough for the umpires to tell. But it's clear on the replay, whereas the play at 1B isn't clear to me on the replay, either.
Is this being treated as more of a big deal than it is? Or am I just supremely biased in favor of the Phils? It gives me a bad taste to think the mistakes are the only reason the Phils won. (Although I still maintain that the Rockies probably didn't have a problem with it in '07, when a bad call allowed them to advance to postseason.)
Posted by: GBrettfan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:54 PM
BTW, I liked Dave Murphy's blog about last night's game and Charlie Manuel. It's on High Cheese today.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:56 PM
At least Utley touched the bag...better than Holliday did in 2007.
Posted by: NEPP | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 04:56 PM
BAP: Since you can't win the argument on who's been better this season, you resort to who's had a better career.
By that logic, Brad Lidge is the best closer in the playoffs.
Posted by: clout | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:02 PM
I think Lidge's new pitch is fictitious. He or Dubee has created this "cutter" to play with the minds of hitters. They have mentioned it to the media and Lidge has talked about it with reporters. Why would you let that secret out? Because it's BS, hitters weren't being fooled by the slider anymore and they were sitting on it. Then there was the mention on BBT last month that he was tipping pitches. I don't buy that, he is just predictable.
Lidge told reporters last night that he got Jason Giambi out with his new cutter last night. Great tale, whatever works but I don't buy it.
Posted by: vegas | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:08 PM
GBrettfan: They were whining about it on ESPN SportsNation, too, but they also brought up other blown calls during this postseason so far as well (Twins/Yanks). If the Rockies or their fans seriously think that's the only reason they lost yesterday's game, they are seriously deluded.
Twins didn't lose that game to the Yankees solely based on that one blown call.
How do you know if Utley's out there that Howard doesn't come up and hit a 2 run HR? Just because Utley's called out there doesn't mean the rest of the game goes the same way. Plus, the Rox walked, what, 8 Phillies? I think 3 of those 8 scored. I think that has more to do with the loss than one blown call at first in the 9th inning.
Posted by: doubleh | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:08 PM
Good point Clout. Mo Rivera and his 0.74 playoff ERA doesn't hold a candle to Brad Lidge's perfection from last year.
In all seriousness, I think I would rather have Lidge on the mound than Joe Nathan or Houston Street. The evil you know is better than the evil you don't know, and those two guys have been bad in the post season. What say you?
Posted by: Spitz | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Sam, according to Scott Lauber's blog, they haven't yet decided whether they will fly directly to LA or come home first - IF they win tonight. Which we all hope they will.
Posted by: GBrettfan | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Yo, new thread.
Posted by: limoguy | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:11 PM
thephaithful: ERA+ is probably the best single measure of how a pitcher is performing. Wolf has had a better year than Sabathia.
Posted by: clout | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:13 PM
Murpy tweeted that the team is traveling back to Philly no matter what: "nobody packed for 5 days, let alone 10."
Posted by: pblunts | Monday, October 12, 2009 at 05:17 PM