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Wednesday, January 14, 2009


Interesting piece on how the percentage of black players equalled the percentage of players taking meds for their ADHD last season.

Since we're posting links to Phillies info, here's an interesting link with some decent info from the WS trophy tour. Park will have to "earn" his spot in the rotation, Drabek could be on the Phillies by the end of 09, etc etc...

Its interesting reading.

Disclaimer: I am in no way attempting to advertise another blog here, but rather post interesting info from a source I read regularly and respect.

Note: you have to scroll down a bit for the actual article as his formatting seems a bit messed up right now...

BTW, can anyone show me the formatting to post the actual link? instead of my archaic cut and paste link?

I know its been posted before but I can never remember it.

MLBTradeRumors has the Mets interested in Sheets...can't say I like that idea very much. If, and its a HUGE IF, he stays healthy, that would easily be the best rotation in the division...Sheets is a #1 when healthy, Santana is still the best pitcher in the NL and Maine/Pelfrey are passable as 3 and 4 guys...and of course they have a 1st Ballot HoFer in Cy Redding.

As for Jimmy Rollins not seeing sliders. I recall reading in Bill James 2007 handbook that Rollins had one of the NL's highest BA against breaking balls. Maybe other teams adjusted last year.

That would explain his dropoff abit...though I think the ankle sprain was the main culprit.

He's still a top SS in the NL just off his glove.

Another topic:
Now that the thermometer is close to zero, its time to discuss Clearwater. Who's going and when? I just purchased my tickets for March, 13, 15, and 17. Can't wait for the annual green jersey day game!!

Meet up at the tiki bar for anyone who's going.

NEPP, Rollins is a top shortstop in all of MLB. I can only think of a couple of guys I'd rather have at this point in their careers.

Rollins is a good hitter. Not always reflected in numbers like BA, but he can hit.

TO AWH: I agree with that statement completely...I was trying to avoid getting hammered by everyone. I'm waiting for the "But Reyes or H. Ramirez are better!!!" crowd.

I'll take Jimmy and his glove over any of them. He's poised to run the table on GGs for the next several years. If Vizquel hadn't been aroudn with his reputation, Rollins would already have 4 straight instead of 2.

Rollins is a Clutch hitter...his numbers with RISP and Men on and in High Leverage situations are very impressive.

This is the link the Rosethal's latest article:

The sentence that jumped off the page:

"Lackey, the next-best starter on the 2009-10 market might be the Phillies' Brett Myers."

If the above is true the Phillies either have extend Myers during the season, or take the draft picks. He'll get signed by some team, regardless if they lose the picks - pitching is just at that much of a premium.

Bye, bye Brett!

That should have read:

"After Lackey, the next-best starter on the 2009-10 market might be the Phillies' Brett Myers."

damn fingers.

Heck yeah Jimmy is a good hitter and likely has 5-7 more high quality years left in him and will have some very impressive career stats when his playing days wind down.


Pedro Feliz ≈ Abe Nunez

Who woulda thought that?


(You know, beyond clout, CJ, bap, etc. etc.)

NEPP, I agree with your statements as well.

Ramirez is the best of the three offensively, but not very good in the field. He may get moved to the OF eventually.

Reyes - well, he probably has the most potential, and is physically probably the most gifted, but he's the Mets version of Brett Myers without the criminal track record: That is, he has a $15MM body and a ten cent head.

The reality is that with the exception of one decent season by Bell, 3B has been a pretty gaping hole for the Phils.

One interesting about the numbers was that while Dobbs hit well last year in his limited time at 3B, he still posted a pretty mediocre OBP (.322 in 149 ABs). Combine that with the hack-machine Feliz and you get a ton of outs from 3B.

I will say that unless Feliz puts up his normal power numbers this year (my bet is that his bad back hurts his power and limits the numbers of games at 3B which might be a good thing), he is utterly useless. Even Nunez coaxed the occasional BB and had a bit more speed than lead-shoed Feliz does.

I bet we do see Donald at 3B this year a bit just because Feliz isn't going to be healthy/effective.

5-7 more years at his current production levels will bring him to a total of anywhere from 2400-2800 Hits. (Note: I figured on an average of 185 hits a year...slighly under his average season.

That said, I would like Feliz as a bench player who would come in a defensive substitute at 3B (maybe even 1B too) and as a RH-bat off the bench with some pop.

I would bet you any money that Feliz decent PH numbers are because Cholly used in primarily in an ideal situation - against a lefty reliever who throws hard (mainly fastballs).

Actually one matchup where I like Feliz's chances of doing something really positive with the bat.

You just can't call Feliz useless after the WS. I know that one at-bat doesn't normally matter in the grand scheme of things, but c'mon man, it was destiny! Would Nunez have gotten the game-winning World Series hit? I wager not.

Feliz future (if he has one beyond the next year or so) is as a utility guy. He plays just about everything, to varied degrees. (He's even caught.) And hits better than most of the utility guys out there.

Radical prescription: Get a real 3B and dump the Gnome.

"Jimmy is a good hitter and likely has 5-7 more high quality years left in him"

His OPS+ last year was 103. It was only 118 in his MVP season. He is entering the decline phase of his career (age 27 is still the peak age), when injuries, nagging and otherwise, probably will start to mount.

He has the potential for 5-7 more seasons at his current level, but I wouldn't say it's "likely."

Bruntlett is going no where. Not making $1M this year. Sadly, this year is going to make a ton of outs over the course of about 200-250 ABs this year and be lucky to post an OPS of .650. My bet is that he gives the Phils a line of around .230/.310/.300. That is a poor line even for a backup INF.

Besides the occasional BB or single, you aren't going to get an meaningful contributions from Bruntlett this year.

Going to be interesting to see how Bruntlett is with the glove. Some really like him at SS. I don't. Basically adequate but I bet he lost a step or two since he first came up.

So Phils have a guy who does nothing offensively and plays two defensive positions at an average (SS) or above average (2B) level. He is a below average OF (below average arm and range that gets hampered by poor routes to balls).

At this point, there really isn't going to be any real news on the Phils' front until closer to the arbitration hearing in a few weeks.

As for the roster moves, they are completely set too. I was hoping the Phils would try to pick up a few bargain bins discounts but it looks like plenty of other teams are taking the same tack this offseason. Hell, there are some really decent players out there yet and I wonder if they get signed at this point right before spring training.

Example - Hudson at 2B. Wanted 4 yrs/$40M. If he comes down to say 3 yrs/$18M do the Mets bite on him and upgrade over Castillo at 2B?

Last comment:

My bet is that the Mets have one decent move left this offseason. Likely going to be for a starting pitching but it wouldn't surprise me if they do with a guy like Hudson at 2B or a corner OF bat to play LF if the price comes down enough.

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I don't think a 103 OPS+ from Rollins last year is particularly convincing as a sign of decline. it is worse than his MVP campaign, but it's also better than every single other season he's had in the majors.

true, middle infielders as a rule don't age well. Rollins' top by-age comps Sandberg, Trammell, and Alomar all declined pretty quickly after age 33 or so. but even that's at least four more productive years.

I'm predicting a big bounceback year from Jimmy. He was far more valuable last year than his OPS+ alone would indicate. First off, he had the highest OBP of his career, and besides the fact that OPS inherently undervalues OBP, it especially does for a leadoff hitter with Chase Utley and Ryan Howard hitting behind him. Jimmy was 47 for 50 on steals, an absurdly successful season on the basepaths and worth quite a few extra runs. Finally, he played gold glove defense at a premium position.

Combine that with the fact that he missed all that time early in the season with the ankle injury, and the likely effect that had on his power, and I expect a fully healthy Rollins to post a .290/.350/.460 season with 40 steals, 15-20 homers, gold glove defense, and get back into the MVP conversation. The dude is a flat out great baseball player, and he's managed in the course of a couple years to go from overrated to underrated. In fact, many will disagree with me, but I think he's our 2nd best position player, behind Utley, and ahead of Howard.

Rollins is now 7th on the active steals list (assuming Bonds, Lofton, Vizquel and Reggie Sanders are now retired), with a success rate or 83%, the highest of any player. That's pretty impressive.

Rollins' increased OBP this past year was definitely a good sign (especially in terms of extending his career into his mid/late 30s). it will be interesting to see if he maintains his increased walk rate--he set a career high in walks despite playing in only 137 games. (he was also 6th in the NL in AB/SO, which is pretty impressive for a guy who struck out 324 times his first three years in Philly.)

"In fact, many will disagree with me, but I think he's our 2nd best position player, behind Utley, and ahead of Howard."

Actually, Jack, I happen to agree. Howard is a monster of run producer best suited for DH duty. He's "out of position", really.

IMO, for someone to be called a "position player" he should actually be able to play defense fairly well - that is, he has an all 'round game.

With that in mind, if Vic continues to play at the level he played last season - in the OF and at the plate - I think he will generate discussion on this board as to whether he's the third best position player on the team, behind Utley and Rollins.

Rollins is a good/very good player but for him to be considered an elite player he needs to have the power numbers like he did in '06 and '07.

I am very curious to see this year what kind of power Rollins has - more typically of his earlier career when he hit 15 or so HRs in a year or closer to 25 HRs a year. 8-10 HRs doesn't sound like a dramatic difference but for it has a big impact on his .SLG pct and is huge at a middle INF position.

It is kind of funny though how JRoll has turned into more of the hitter that Bowa always wanted him to be out of the leadoff spot. Carefully pick you spots when you steal a base and display a bit more patience at the plate that will likely lead to a slight bump in AVG and OBP.

When Rollins contract is up in 2011, he will likely have been the starter at SS for the Phils for the past 10 years. It would be interesting to see how many SS have started with the same team for at least 10 years or more.

Couple offhand come to mind right away (Smith, Trammell, Ripken, Larkin, Jeter, Vizquel Rizzuto, etc). Either way is a list of players who are either HOF or very good players.

My bet is that JRoll almost certainly ends up in the "very good players" list because he just won't put up the power numbers like in '07 or '08 to have the necessary offensive numbers or have enough Gold Glove either.

Numbers wise, if he were to have another 5-7 productive years, he would not be out of place on the list of HoF Shortstops.

I doubt it will happen as he will be compared offensively to guys like Jeter...which isn't very fair when you consider that Jeter is a joke defensively.

Feliz as a utility player is an idea I could really get behind. In fact, I wrote a post before last season, in which I posited that the Phillies didn't really need to keep a horrible bat like Eric Bruntlett on the bench since Feliz could play SS in a pinch. I was widely ridiculed for the post -- but, then again, that was back in the day when everyone was still in "Give Eric Bruntlett a chance" mode (in other words, before anyone ever saw him play).

So I'll say it again: the Phillies need Bruntlett even less this year than they did last year. If Rollins went down mid-game, Feliz could finish the game at SS and then Donald could be called up. The bigger issue is 2nd base. If Giles could somehow make the team -- which I'm rooting for him to do -- it would solve that problem and leave Bruntlett superfluous.

It's all well and good to have a guy who can play every position, but a utility infielder's main job over the course of the season is to pinch hit. Bruntlett does NOT adequately fill the bill.

The thing about 3B I'd like to point out is how many really good offensive players are there at that position full-time? You can't get out of the Top 10 before seeing a serious decline in offensive potential. A-Rod obviously heads the list, followed by David Wright, Aramis Ramirez, Evan Longoria, Chipper Jones (when healthy), Garrett Atkins, Ryan Zimmerman, Mike Lowell (again when healthy), and then you run into some difficulty finding a really good bat. Now I'm not saying you'd have difficulty improving upon Pete Happy as a starter. He's a hacker and offensively fairly poor. But signing a 3B as a free agent is not easy to do, especially when no one's available (like this year). You'd have to get a 3B by trade, and what GM in his right mind would trade any of the players I listed above to get fair value? Hell Casey Blake signed for 3 years at 17.5 mil with the Dodgers, and he's probably not worth even that.

Just a question on the Ibanez signing: yes, it's a problem because it puts all our power on the LH side. Statistically Ibanez is a worse offensive player over the course of a whole year. My question is, considering how awful Burrell's slumps were, is Ibanez in fact going to be a more consistent hitter?

Finally, the Lowe signing: it'll be good for 2 years, but by the end of the deal he'll be a shell of the guy they thought they were signing. That's what makes the 4th and 5th year on a contract for a guy like Lowe, always, always a mistake. I don't care if he's an ace pitcher, even a future Hall of Famer, with a guy that age, who's ability is only going to decline, signing him for that money till he's 39 or 40 is a bad thing.

I'm not arguing that Rollins isn't valuable. I'm arguing that even a relatively slight age-related decline puts him in average-shortstop territory, at least offensively. Projecting his recent numbers out for 7 years seems rather presumptuous to me. Three years, sure, barring injury. That also happens to be how long the Phillies have him under contract.

Are the Rollins fans saying the front office should tack another four years onto his existing contract?

Here's the thing Alby, its mid January, we're over a month away till pitchers/catchers report, and we're bored out of our minds.

I hope Jroll is still productive in 3 years and that they resign him to make him a career Phillie. I doubt it'll happen but I think he's got a shot to have a big statue outside CBP if everything goes well. He could also hit the wall at 33 or 34 and be out of baseball by never know.


PH v RHP: 6 PA, 2-6, all singles, 2 RBI, 1 SO.
PH v LHP: 11 PA, 5-10, 3 RBI, .500/.545/.900

"Are the Rollins fans saying the front office should tack another four years onto his existing contract?"

I think it pretty clearly depends on his 2009 season. It also depends on what they decide to do with Jason Donald, and on whether Freddie Galvis shows any improvement at the plate. If the plan is to move Donald to third base (which I hope), and if Galvis again hits .240 at Single A, then you'd have a hard time convincing me that the Phillies could do better than a .270-hitting, Gold Glove winning SS, over the next 5 or 6 years.

Galvis has shown very slow but steady improvement so far. His SO rate is very are his numbers against leftys.

Give him time, he's still VERY young.

NEPP- Not to be nit-picky- but it's a month to the day when pitchers and catchers report.
The light at the end of the tunnel is FLA sunshine!

BAP: I hope the Donald-to-3B experiment works out, but I wonder if they would accept someone without HR power there. After all, they could have played Polanco at 3B but didn't like his lack of punch. If that's the case, provided he's really good enough to become a major-league regular, I think they'll put him at 2B and Utley at 1B after Howard leaves as a FA.

A month away...I can't freaking wait.

NEPP: Actually, I'd say Galvis's improvement has been pretty fast. Problem is, he started out from absolute zero and his offense has now improved to merely terrible.

Who said anything about giving up on him, though? To the contrary, I'm pretty optimistic that he'll keep improving. The question is: how much? His offense would have to improve pretty radically before I'd be willing to bank on him to take over as our starting shortstop after Rollins' contract expires.

Rollins would become a FA after 2011, which means we really don't have to think about extending him until about mid-2010 at the earliest. That gives Galvis about 1 1/2 years to show some offensive competency. If he is still hitting for anemic batting average, surely you would agree that it would be foolish to bank on Galvis to take over as our SS after 2011.

****I think they'll put him at 2B and Utley at 1B after Howard leaves as a FA.****

Why in the hell would you move the best 2B in the game to another position? He's the best offensive and best defensive 2B in baseball right now...his value goes down significantly if you waste him at 1B.

"To the Rollins fans... Should the front office tack on 4 years to Rollins contract?"

Jimmy Rollins is the greatest SS in franchise history. If he maintains his current level of production through 2011, the front office should do whatever it takes to make him retire as a Phillie.

****If he is still hitting for anemic batting average, surely you would agree that it would be foolish to bank on Galvis to take over as our SS after 2011.****

Oh definitely. I think Galvis is a good 4 years away from playing at the MLB level...figure at least a full year at each remaining level at best. That's if he pans out.

alby: I never understand statements like, "He doesn't have enough power for third base." Homeruns are fungible. They don't count any more when they come from a third baseman than when they come from a middle infielder. The Phillies' lineup already hits plenty of homeruns; they can easily afford to have a high-average hitter who doesn't hit as many homeruns as most players at his position. Besides, if you want a power-hitting third baseman, you have to pay big money to get him -- which means less money to spend in other areas. Personally, I'd be perfectly satisfied to have a high OBP third baseman with middling power, who costs next to nothing.

Godfather: Kevin Brown, a similar if superior pitcher compared with Derek Lowe, signed a 7-year contract at age 34. He had five very good seasons, one injury-marred lousy one, until finally falling off the cliff at age 40, the final year of his contract. Lowe will be 39 during the final season on this contract.

What complicates the picture is Lowe's career path -- a reliever until age 30, a high-inning starter after 30. Most of his player comps are part-time starters who were on their last legs by age 35.

In other words, it's not beyond reason to think he might pitch well through the life of this contract. I wouldn't bet on it, just as I wouldn't bet on any pitcher to go through any four-year stretch without missing time due to injury, but I'd rather bet on an older, uninjured arm like Lowe's holding up than either Burnett or Sheets oft-injured arms.

BAP: So would I (rather have a middling-power, high-OBP 3B). I'm trying to gauge the thinking of the Phillies' front office (and they're not the only ones) who think a 3B should fit a specific mold.

Likewise, NEPP, I'm not saying I'd move Utley, though I wouldn't be as opposed to it as you seem to be. Playing 2B takes more out of a player that most positions. Between serving as the pivot man on the DP and running into the OF on pop-ups, 2B are exposed to an above-average injury risk. And, given the patterns of thinking the FO has demonstrated in the past, they're probably thinking that Utley, who will be in his age 33 season when Howard is gone, will be at the age where you want to preserve his bat by saving his legs.

Moving Utley hurts him significantly when it comes to things like the HOF. As a 2B, he could be that level...if he moves off 2B too early in his career, he'll forever be in the Hall of Very Good.

That's part of my objection. I'd keep him at 2B as long as he's still at least average.

Don't panic. It's not a definite plan. I'd feel a lot better if they'd draft a slugging 1B, though, to groom for 2012.

Utley should not move off 2B for many years. He's currently the best 2B in the league.

The issue with the lack of power at 3rd base, as has been pointed out before, is positional scarcity. 3rd base is a position where a lot of guys have good power. MI is not. So just because we have power coming from MI now does not mean we should be ok with having little power from 3rd, for multiple reasons. A) you should be able to get power from that position IN ADDITION to the MI power (obviously the Phils haven't been able to do this) and B) it's entirely possible that Rollins and Utley decline in a couple of years, losing their power, and if you've committed to a lack of power at 3rd, all of a sudden youre missing a lot from your lineup.

The thing about 3rd base is that, as Clout and many have pointed out, it's not the most important defensive position. Thus, if a guy isn't giving you offensive power from that position, you're not getting much value out of it. Obviously, that's the case right now with the Phillies. Again, I understand that we have great 2B and SS production right now, and that we can thus afford less offensive production from 3B. But we should be trying to maximize our production at every position, not just settling for mediocrity or worse because we can afford to.

****Utley should not move off 2B for many years. He's currently the best 2B in the league.****

By a very good margin too. Its not even close. He's a superior offensive 2B compared even to guys like Pedroia and Kinsler and by most any fielding metric he's a good jump above everyone as well. He's ridiculously good when you combine the two.

bap/Jack: The issue isn't accepting less power from third bc we have it in the MI, what it comes down to is if the best we can do at 3b is Donald, then that's what we should do. Look at our 3bmen of the past however many years... awful. If we had a power hitting 3bmen I'd say of course we go with him over Donald. But we don't. Our best option for the next few years is to give Donald a shot there. He'll be dirt cheap, so if the "commitment" to him there doesn't work out then the divorce, if a better option shows up, won't be painful.

It's funny how Kevin Brown is often held up as an example of all-time bad contracts. Seems to me the Dodgers got about what they could have reasonably expected out of a 34-year old pitcher -- 3 1/2 years of brilliance, another solid season, and some missed time due to injury. He didn't really break down and become useless until the final year of his 7-year contract.

alby/nepp: If Howard is traded before he's eligible for free agency -- as I believe he will be -- I would guess that Utley would stay at second and Ibanez would move to first base.

A couple of thoughts:

I believe the FO looks at Galvis as a potential replacement for Rollins, and a much less expensive one. Remember, Galvis only turned 19 in November. Besides, he may be viewed a a future Ozzie Smith type, where the team will accept lower production offensively for vastly superior defensive play. His BP scouting report from July '08:

"Freddy Galvis, an 18-year-old Venezuelan shortstop, is batting just .225/.289/.257, but one scout who recent saw him couldn’t help but be impressed. “Defensively, he’s what I call an extreme defender—he’s just a magician out there,” said the scout. “Every day you see him, he’ll make at least one play that a lot of big-league shortstops wouldn’t have a chance at. And he’s not just flash, all the routine plays are made as well.” As for his non-existent offense, the scout did see enough room for improvement to tag him as an everyday player. “Look, he’s definitely a bottom of the lineup guy, but he slaps the ball around and keeps his hands inside well. I think that small-ball situational hitting will be there for him in the end, as there are some offensive instincts there.”

I'll translate that for you: He is probably better defensively than a lot of MLB SS right now. If he improves enough to hit .240 - .250 at the MLB level, and his defense improves as his body develops, then the Phillies are going to have a very tough decision to make: extend Rollins at eight figures per year, or bring up Galvis and spend the Rollins dough elsewhere - particularly on pitching.

As far as the 3B power debate is concerned, remember....the 2008 Phillies are not the only team to win the WS with substandard offensive production from 3B.

The 2004 Red Sox (Bill Mueller), the '01 Dbacks (Matt Williams), the '98 - '00 Yankees (Brosius), are all examples of teams that didn't have a stud at 3B.

As long as the production is coming from somewhere in the lineup, and/or the pitching is good enough, teams can win.

There's an interesting thought.. who really was the worst pitcher vs. the contract they received? The homer in me thinks Eaton should be in the running, but Pavano probably tops my list.

Can't imagine Uts changing position while he can still walk. Like the idea of trading Howard because it's hard to imagine the Phillies signing him long term, and it'd be nice if we could get more than 2 draft picks when we lose him. Anyone have an opinion on what would be fair value for him?

****then the Phillies are going to have a very tough decision to make: extend Rollins at eight figures per year, or bring up Galvis and spend the Rollins dough elsewhere - particularly on pitching.****

Easy solution. Just move Rollins to 3B. ;)

The hot stove has officially grown cold when roster moves 3, 4 or 5 years down the road have taken center stage.

Lol Nepp if Rollins moved to third I can only imagine where he'd rank defensively at that position.

Lazarus, Pavano is definitely the poster boy, but, so far, Zito is making a case.

One of the sports websites (ESPN or SI) had an article a couple of months ago about bad LT pitching contracts.

The Phillies, despite the frustration with Eaton, have gotten way more from him than the Yankees got from Pavano, who, I believe, only won 5 games in a Yankees uniform.

The difference is that the Yankees have the financial wherewithal to eat a contract that size without if affecting their ability to compete. The 9 mil Eaton is owed next season is a significant chunk of the Phils revenue, nevermind their payroll.

Mueller's OPS+/OPS in 04 was 106/.811. The AL average that year for 3B was 100/.796. Just glancing at the roster, that BOS team probably got league average or better production from every roster spot but two and this was more than compensated for by Ortiz (145 OPS+) and Manny (152 OPS+) and a rotation of, by ERA+, 150/125/121/100/90. And that 90 ERA+ belonged to the guy who's getting $60M from the Braves.

I wonder what the idiots who say Dobbs shouldn't start vs. RHP because he's such a good pinch hitter will say now that we know Feliz is such a good pinch hitter?

as usual, when good third baseman are discussed, Adrian Beltre's nowhere to be found. even though he has never and almost certainly will never sniffed his 2004 production since moving to Seattle, he's been pretty damn good the last three years. kind of a rich man's Pedro Feliz--poor OBP, but he hits around .270 with 25 HR and 30-40 doubles, he's good on the bases, and he's excellent defensively.

obviously not in the same discussion as Rodriguez or Wright or Jones, but I'd love to have him on the Phillies (as was rumored a couple years ago).

In that scouting report that AWH refrenced, it sounds like you could substitute the name Bowa for Galvis. Most here aren't old enough to remember Bowa as a rookie, but I just barely am. He was an extreme slap hitter when he came up. All he could do was slap or punch the ball the other way. The one advantage he had was that he was a switch hitter. I don't know if Galvis is or not. But the guy was one of the best fielding shortstops in the bigs the minute he stepped on a field. As we all know, he worked his tail off and became a decent if never feared hitter. He even hit .300 one year. I know its pure speculation, but that is what immediately came into my head when I read that scouting report.

big difference between Bowa and Galvis is this:




the first is what NL shortstops hit in 1975, when Bowa hit (a career best) .305/.334/.377, and the second is what NL shortstops hit in 2008.

in the 1970s, Bowa was actually a good hitter for a shortstop. in 2008, his numbers would just be average. not the end of the world to have an average-hitting, great-fielding shortstop, but so far Galvis hasn't been that.

Yo, new thread.

I know people love to look at numbrs and want to say this is how a player is.

But in reality the fact of the matter is that Pedro Feliz numbers might not look good on paper but if you go to his game log the guy came through on some big hits when it mattered. I'm not talking about RISP type stats I'm talking to put the team in the lead for good or bringing them back into the game.

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