Game chat: Phils, Nats tonight; Feliz activated

Third baseman Pedro Feliz returns from the 15-day disabled list tonight when the two sides square off at 7:05 ET. To make room, left-hander Les Walrond was designated for assignment.

Feliz, who has been sidelined with lower back inflammation since July 29, is not in tonight’s starting lineup; Greg Dobbs gets the start instead. Feliz is hitting .256/.304/.424 with 12 home runs, his best numbers coming off left-handed pitching. Walrond departs to the tune of a 7.11 ERA in 6 1-3 innings.

On the mound, it’s Brett Myers (5-10, 5.02), who’s 2-1 with a 1.95 ERA in his last four outings. For Washington, Collin Balester (2-5, 5.06) makes his ninth start and second against the Phils. Lineups are posted, and it appears Charlie Manuel has seen enough Geoff Jenkins and Carlos Ruiz bringing down the Phillies’ offense. Jayson Werth gets another start against a right-hander. Chris Coste does the catching. Over the last few days, Manuel has suggested that it's become difficult to justify Ruiz's presence in a lineup that isn't producing.

Comments

[CJ]

Jayson Werth's OPS vs. RHP is now .759. Interestingly, his OBP is nearly identical vs righties and lefties, but his slugging is 200 points lower against righties. That said, Werth's slugging vs. RHP is just 4 points lower than Jenkins and his OBP is 40 points higher.

It's kinda hard to justify Jenkins spot in the lineup these days.

[Brian G]

CJ: Agreed. This is the second year in a row where Werth has had a higher OBP against righties than Jenkins. For an inept lineup that hits a lot of home runs, it helps to have a guy who works counts and gets on base.

[J. Weitzel]

Breaking slot was my choice for an afternoon post and Manuel's comments on Carlos Ruiz were a close second.

"His swing gets long at times, and it's slow," Manuel said of Ruiz. "Last year, it seemed like he had a quicker bat and he hit more balls hard. But if everyone was hitting, we wouldn't be talking about Ruiz."

As official spokesperson of the Chooch fan club, I don't sense any belief coming from management that Ruiz will improve, and I can't blame them.

[denny b.]

It took til mid August for Cholly to "have trouble justifying Ruiz's spot in the lineup"??? I guess you can only hit .210 for a few months, before it becomes an issue.

I actually was kinda impressed with Walrond's stuff. He was an actual "swing and miss" pitcher, on a staff that doesn't have many of those. He was a bit wild ad times, but he wasn't terrible. Hopefully, he signs back up with the Phils ala Condrey last year, each time he was "DFA'd".

Boy, that Jenkins signing, looks like the Adam Eaton signing of 2008. A ton of money, for very little. And, more money owed too.

Gillick should stick to the "Dobbs, Werth, Feliz, Durbin, Romero-type" signings in the future. The "Garcia's and Eaton's and Jenkins's FA signings/trades" (veterans getting a ton of money) have not gone well.

[CJ]

denny b: The Feliz signing has gone well?

[king myno]

CJ: When we have Eric Bruntlett as an alternative, yes. That was Gillick's evil plan in acquiring Bruntlett; he knew when Feliz went down, we'd all realize how much we miss him and how "awesome" he is.

[Sophist]

The justification for Jenkins over Werth are his career numbers against RHP and his higher BA against them this year. Clout put the question nicely. What's more likely: a veteran guy who batted .292/.365/.504 against RHP from 2005-07 returns to form or a young guy who batted .243/.350/.389 against RHP from 2005-07 learns how to hit them?

Jenkins is batting .260/.351/.420 since the AS break which is . . . better.

[CJ]

king myno: Riiiight... that's about the best argument possible in convincing anyone that this was a good signing. Simply living up to expectations isn't enough in my mind... if those expectations are so low the bar is on the ground.

[CJ]

Sophist: True... except that Werth is .243/.349/.514 since the break which, when compared to Jenkins, is... better.

[Sophist]

CJ - are those Werth's numbers against RHP since the break or his overall numbers?

[Sophist]

Werth is batting .255/.379/.532 against RHP since the AS break. That's excellent for him, though that is a small sample -- just 47 AB.

[CJ]

Overall... I can't find a way to break it down more. Although he's played more against righties recently.

[CJ]

Is it just me, or could Howard have stretched a little more for that throw from Dobbs?

[CJ]

Why do they keep running on our outfielders?

[redbeard]

pat the arm

[Brian G]

Someone mentioned the Sabathia trade as a possible impetus for ownership realizing the importance of farm system depth. I would say a more likely impetus was them realizing that they're paying Jenkins/Eaton/Feliz, three below average players, over $20 million next year, and that if they had a few more Kyle Kendricks or Jason Donalds to plug in their places, they'd be saving themselves a ton of money.

[Sophist]

CJ - Werth's overall numbers are relatively meaningless since he does most of his damage against LHP. Both of these players have severe splits in their careers. The question is who will be more successful against RHP from now til the season ends. Werth's overall numbers aren't responsive to that question.

[doubleh]

How can division rivals continue to run on Burrell? It still amazes me that they underestimate his arm and accuracy?

[redbeard]

jimmy still swinging for the fences. sigh.

[CJ]

The other advantage Werth offers is allowing us to bat Victornio lower in the order, bringing much better balance, IMO.

[Sophist]

Rollins' HR/FB has really plummeted this year relative to 06 and 07 (almost half.)

[Sophist]

That's true, CJ, and not something I'd considered. Good thing Werth maintains his high OBP against even RHP.

[AFish]

I love Harry, but he can't see.

[CJ]

Sophist: I understand your point. Are you suggesting we're better off letting Jenkins try to work his way out of his funk? I guess at this point I'm in favor of making Werth the every day right fielder with Jenkins getting spot starts against righties.

[Jack]

Are you kidding me Pat

[doubleh]

Please tell me this isn't going to be one of those 4 error games...

[Sophist]

CJ - I don't have a strong opinion about it.

[curt]

Last thing Myers needs is a bunch of bad play behind him.

[Sophist]

Myers getting lots of GB early.

Thank you, pitcher.

[doubleh]

Now all Myers needs is for his defense to wake up. We know how he loses his mind when they screw up behind him.

[CJ]

Sophist: Fair enough. I wouldn't call mine strong either. It's more of a undefinable subjective feeling that I'm more confident with Werth at the plate than Jenkins at the plate, regardless of who's pitching. And I'm the kind of guy who hates that kind of rationalizing!!

[Jack]

CJ: I would agree. Werth should play like 5 out of 7 or so. With this lineup I'll take the consistent OBP over the power. We need baserunners, especially out of the 2 hole.

[Sophist]

Yeah, CJ. That's usually why I bother to post his splits. My memory, anyway, isn't so strong when it comes to recalling who his hits ahve come against. He's not awful against RHP anyway.

[doubleh]

Why do they swing for the fences every single at bat?

[timr]

Looks like the Phils are playing with their usual fire. Two errors already. Go get 'em, boys!

[Sophist]

Rollins hit a deep FB. Werth SO swinging. Utley hit a deep FB. Howard and Burrell hit deep FB.

Someone want to try for a line drive or something?

[curt]

Nice, the whole team has warning track power.

[doubleh]

The punchless gNats already have 3 hits and the Phils have none. WTF?

[mb]

Mets up 5-0 on the braves in the 1st inning. Still 2-on, 2-out.

[curt]

The Nats seem to think it is OK to look at a couple of pitches before swinging at one. Wierd.

[curt]

Mutts have already scored more runs than we are likely to score all night.

[B-RadPhilly]

5-0 Mets after 1 inning. WTF. What is with that team raking in the 1st inning every game. Jurjens pitchout is already high..may be a blowout at Shea tonight. Gotta beat the nats boys.

[curt]

Nice hook by Myers.

[Brian G]

Curt: It's looking like more runs than we'll have HITS all night.

[Sophist]

Both teams are playing bottom-dwellers. Can't really expect to make up ground today or tomorrow.

[mvptommyd]

Curt: yea because they need to give their bullpen at least a 10 run lead so they won't blow the game for them.

[curt]

The former black hole goes to work.

[Jack]

Mets are looking really good right now. Let's just hope they implode in September again. The way we're playing now, we're gonna need that.

[joe l]

Are the fans blowing kisses to Jimmy yet?

[doubleh]

Pure luck gets us a run there. Thank you, Rookie SS.