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Friday, July 25, 2008

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Still have a hope that the Tuesday game will be the one that's looked back on, along with the opener of the previous Mets series, when the Mets look back at another narrow division loss...

Thanks for that post Jason, a good one for this down-in-the-dumps bunch.

By the way, although I am in "panic mode" I refuse to give up on the season, because I made that mistake last year and we all know what happened.

Having awoken at 3 pm and missing the first thread of the day, I was hoping for at least one alarmist post. People need to be driven to despair over the season in attempting to invoke a giant reverse jinx. If everyone became a bruceg, then we'd prboably be a lock for the playoffs. Unfortunately, as Carson says, we experienced last year and people just can't give up to win.

Trade idea: Carlos Carrasco, Shane Victorino, Greg Golson, and a plate of savory brioche french toast smothered in Foie Grois, to the Blue Jays for Roy Halladay.

Gotta say - I think that stats such as "day games," or "Sundays" are among the most inane. What could possibly be a factor that would cause a team to, on an ongoing basis, play better either at night or during the day?

Same thing with similar individual stats - such as Hamels' record in day games. What, does he get cranky because he has to wake up early from his nap?

Useless.

How do the Mets and Marlins schedules compare to ours?

These next couple of series are must wins.

one factor would be that they like to stay up late and have a few drinks... i dont know how it works.. do they have a curfew?? ponson was out drinking til 2 am the day before he was supposed to start

Hangovers aren't as bad at 8 pm.

BAP: Add Marson, Savery, and Happ to your package and then the Blue Jays might do it.

But yeah, Halladay is the type of difference maker I'd love to see us get.

phlipper: It does seem like a pretty arbitrary statistic. But there might be something to it with Hamels. I've heard it said that the delivery on his change-up is easier to pick up in the sunlight than it is under the lights. On the other hand, his day game stats are much better this year -- though still not nearly on a par with his night game stats. It could certainly just be a statistical fluke.

BAP- Throw in Pete LaForest to give the deal some Canadian flavor and I think we have a deal.

Brian: I was being tongue in cheek. Based on PhillR's ebullient description, I was thinking the french toast would be the central piece of the trade.

flipper - I think there is a difference between night games and day games. There are psychological difference between preparing and playing at difference times of day as well as physiological differences, e.g. eye sight.

You could be right though. I think Hamels does have a problem with day games, however. Not sure about the Phillies on the whole. I bet the teams they play are better.

If what Buster Olney is claiming is true, the Phillies biggest move will be an "Arthur Rhodes" type. Neither Halladay, nor Holliday fall under that description. He also said it won't be a "big deal," which would also be prohibitive of acquiring those guys.

Olney may not be the end all of trade knowledge, but those prospects are bleak. Phils would be getting a LOOGY that is not even a LOOGY.

Ok, there might be some factors, in a general sense, that differentiate day games from night games. But, theoretically, they'd apply to both teams equally.

Unless you're saying that the Phillies are a bunch of drunks...wait a minute, maybe you're on to something.

" I've heard it said that the delivery on his change-up is easier to pick up in the sunlight than it is under the lights"

Seems dubious to me. What would make it easier to pick up Hamels change during the day than Santana's change?

Maybe it would apply to both teams equally. Seems funny to be defending the Phils' preparedness the year after the team's "MVP" is bench for showing up late to a day game.

"Seems funny to be defending the Phils' preparedness the year after the team's "MVP" is bench for showing up late to a day game."

Make that "Seems funny to be defending the Phils' preparedness for day games the day after the team's "MVP" is bench for showing up late to a day game.

Perhaps when players show up less than an hour before game time that may have something to do with on field performance in day games as well?

Maybe laid back style management doesn't lend itself to proper day game preparation?

Grasping at straws, I know, but there have to be some explanations for the huge disparity.

phlipper: I'm no scout, and I'm only speculating. But what makes Hamels' change-up effective is his ability to disguise his delivery so it looks no different than a fast ball. Still, even with Hamels, there are subtle differences between a fast ball delivery and a change up delivery. It wouldn't surprise me if it is considerably harder to pick up those subtle differences under the lights, where hitters' vision isn't going to be as good.

Phillr makes some decent points, and certainly brings some objectivity to the site (some would say he's a closet Mets fan who hates the Phillies, but still), but his point on trading Rollins doesn't make much sense. As others have pointed out, Rollins is an incredibly rare commodity: a top 5-10 offensive and defensive SS signed for below-market value. His point about trading him for upgrades at other positions is valid, but the problem is, no one really has any sense of what Rollins would bring back. The market for SS in their prime signed to a decent contract doesn't really exist, because, um, TEAMS DON'T TRADE THEM.

Not just on the baseball side of things, but the Phillies would also be losing one of their most marketable stars, and one of the few African-American baseball stars in the game (along with Howard) in a city with a large African-American population. We may give the team crap for focusing too much on marketing, but this is a business and those things factor into decisions, as much as some people may wish they didn't.

Simply put, there isn't much of an argument to be made for trading Rollins, unless you can accurately gauge the market and lay out a scenario in which we'd receive compensation that would be of greater value to the organization. Use your head.

I know he's not really the whole answer for the team and you'd be hesitant to trade within the division but the Braves are apparently making Jeff Francoeur available. 24 years old. A cannon of an arm in right field and a guy who has a pretty fair amount of power.

He doesn't get on base as much as a guy like Holliday does (not even close) but he would be a nice bat to sit between Utley and Howard and with him in right and Victorino in left it would be almost impossible to have guys score from second on grounders to the outfield.

Does anyone know what the Phillies record was in day games last year or the year before that? I haven't been able to find it. Seems to me that this is pretty important information in assessing whether their 2008 day game record is meaningful, or merely a statistical fluke.

BAP: Why wouldn't that apply to any pitcher's change? The effectiveness of any pitcher's change lies in his ability to make it seem like a fastball. Why would Hamels' be any different?

So, let me see if I get this right, Sophist. You're suggesting that the reason that the Phils have a bad day game record is because they are lazier than other teams, and so they are less able to get prepared for a game when they have less time to do so?

JW: Even those series are not sure bets. Most of those teams are getting better right now, or are at least getting some players back soon.

Pittsburgh: May change significantly due to trades, but given the pitching matchups, it could be bad. If they face Maholm, and Gorzelany the offense is probably not scoring more than 2 runs in either of those games. They would probably have a good shot at hitting any of Pitt's RH starters.

Washington: Getting Lastings Milledge back today. John Lannon is the equivalent to the Ice Age for the Phillies bats. Tim Redding owns the Phillies. Jason Bergman has pitched well against the Phils. Odalis Perez is LH, and liable to K 12 Phillies.

The Phils usually play well against the Dodgers. However, Derrick Lowe is a problem. Chad Billingsly could shut the Phils down. Clayton Kershaw is a LH, so Utley and Howard are neutralized. I don't think the Phils have faced Kuroda, but I don't like the matchup.

San Diego: Jake Peavy is a nightmare. Chris Young should be off the DL by then, and he owns the Phils. Gregg Maddux and Clay Hensley are probably winnable.

Chicago: Zambrano is always tough. Lilly is kryptonite to the lineup. Rich Harden may throw a no-hitter. I wouldn't be so afraid of Marquis or Dempster (although more this year).

Milwaukee: C.C. Sabathia is a must lose game. Sheets is a nightmare. Manny Parra is likely to K 12 Phillies. Dave Bush would be winnable. Same would be true for Jeff Suppan. Seth McClung and Brian Shouse as LOOGY's. Bad news all around.

JW: Even those series are not sure bets. Most of those teams are getting better right now, or are at least getting some players back soon.

Pittsburgh: May change significantly due to trades, but given the pitching matchups, it could be bad. If they face Maholm, and Gorzelany the offense is probably not scoring more than 2 runs in either of those games. They would probably have a good shot at hitting any of Pitt's RH starters.

Washington: Getting Lastings Milledge back today. John Lannon is the equivalent to the Ice Age for the Phillies bats. Tim Redding owns the Phillies. Jason Bergman has pitched well against the Phils. Odalis Perez is LH, and liable to K 12 Phillies.

The Phils usually play well against the Dodgers. However, Derrick Lowe is a problem. Chad Billingsly could shut the Phils down. Clayton Kershaw is a LH, so Utley and Howard are neutralized. I don't think the Phils have faced Kuroda, but I don't like the matchup.

San Diego: Jake Peavy is a nightmare. Chris Young should be off the DL by then, and he owns the Phils. Gregg Maddux and Clay Hensley are probably winnable.

Chicago: Zambrano is always tough. Lilly is kryptonite to the lineup. Rich Harden may throw a no-hitter. I wouldn't be so afraid of Marquis or Dempster (although more this year).

Milwaukee: C.C. Sabathia is a must lose game. Sheets is a nightmare. Manny Parra is likely to K 12 Phillies. Dave Bush would be winnable. Same would be true for Jeff Suppan. Seth McClung and Brian Shouse as LOOGY's. Bad news all around.

I wonder, is Jimmy Rollins the only guy who has been late to a game this year? Is he the only one who has failed to hustle on a pop-up? (I know for a fact the answer is "no" on the second question, and I would be amazed if nobody else was late even one time all season so far.)

If I was not the only guy committing certain faux pas, but I was the only guy being called out in public for it, my attitude would go down the crapper in a big hurry. Especially if the guys who got away with it had something in common with the manager that I don't.

Everything I have ever read or heard about management says "Praise in public, punish in private".

My 2 cents, worth everything you paid for it.

Damn, double post.

I think I have figured it out: JRoll got to the ballpark late, had The Gut bench him, all so that BL posters would have someone else to talk about trading instead of Ryan Howard or Brett Myers. You see, he really is the team leader.

I'm not sure I got the count right there, Parker, but it looks like you're predicting a record of something like 6-19 against those teams?

Phillies

2008
Day : .240/.321/.401
Night : .264/.338/.459

2007
Day : .285/.366/.478
Night : .269/.348/.449

2006
Day : .265/.344/.439
Night : .268/.348/.451

2005
Day : .270/.351/.406
Night : .269/.347/.432

1) The Blue Jays are NOT trading Roy Halladay. They haven't even suggested he's on the block. Other teams have called them, but they've repeatedly said he wants to stay in Toronto, he's still got a couple years on his deal at a reasonable price and he's one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball. They're not trading him.

2) I heard the Phils are going to trade Some Dudes for pitching and hitting help.

phlipper: I don't know that they are lazier, but I think they are, on average, older--which might make it more difficult to recover from the game the night before (and any subsequent partying that may/may not occur) and then play in a day game without some side effects/slowness.

For whatever reason, the Phils don't hit during the day. And they've had a lot of day games over the last six weeks or so.

Has anyone checked the Phils' record on days that begin with the letter "T."

(Interestingly, I'm pretty sure that their record on days that end in "day" tracks almost precisely with their overall record).

Organization and fans stuckstick with Manager Manuel on this four year mountain climb, but the gimpy SS 100 games removed from new highs is getting swapped off the line?

Tough crowd.


Day has a sample size of a little over 2000 PAs, and night is a little over 4000 PAs. 3 out of the 4 years the offense is worse during the day, although this year the margin is bigger and last year the effect was reversed.

Hope Jimmmy Rollins is at the stadium early today.
We need this drama behind us.

FWIW Jody Mac was saying there are reports that the Jays are quietly calling teams regarding Hallady, specifically the Cardinals and Dodgers. Like everyone else, there are both reports that Halladay "Wants to stay" and others where he "asked to be traded".

Truth: I thought about mentioning Francoeur on here back when he was demoted since his value was probably at its lowest, but I wasn't sure if the Braves would be shopping him then and figured I would get slammed. He may be a change of scenery guy (even though he's only 24). The only thing I would be concerned about is that while he has better splits against righties this year, his career splits are Werthian and we might still have a semi-platoon situation in RF. If a deal like that would net us a solid #2 though, I'd seriously consider it.

Wow, Parker. You just depressed the hell out of me. I'm going to two games next week in Washington and I think they're against Lannan and Redding. So far the Phils are something like 9-2 when I see them in DC. But an 0-2 week next week might just push me over the edge.

From the link above:

The Phillies as a team are 12-19 in day games, the worst record in the NL East and fifth-worst in the majors...

Lol! How strange is it that along with the Phils, the teams with the worst daytime records include Baltimore, Cleveland, Seattle, and the Rockies. Boy, that's a shock.

Phlipper: The Braves series seems to be the only one that looks imminently winnable.

Even then, if Jo-Jo Reyes shuts down the Phils things could get hairy.

Also a problem with the Braves: Mike Gonzales (LH) is their closer. If the Braves starters get them to the 7th in all these games then things get tough. Ryan Howard and Chase Utley wear the name "Ohman" on their backs when they face him. If the Braves can avoid using their RH relievers too much, it could be a problem. Absolutely essential that the Phils score some runs early against their starters.

Can't imagine the Braves trading Francouer to their division rival. He's 24, could go back to haunt them for awhile.

"...3 out of the 4 years the offense is worse during the day, although this year the margin is bigger and last year the effect was reversed. "

Dave - in at least two of the years, the difference wasn't statistically significant.

Parker:

If the Phils win only 1/4 of their games against those teams, I promise to call clout my daddy at the end of each and every one of my BL posts.

TK: I don't understand it, but Tim Redding looks like Cy Freaking Young against the Phillies. For some reason, baseballs he throws to most other teams look the size of Dmitri Young.

Not to mention... Francouer's defense seems to be slipping. He put on weight (perhaps just muscle, but still...) and word is that his range has diminished and his arm is not as accurate.

All those series are winnable save for maybe the Brewers series.

Parker, I get the impression you're the kind of person who likes to go around and tell kids Santa Claus isn't real.

Mets close out the season at home with 4 against the Cubs and 3 vs. the Marlins. That ain't easy. They appear to have a tougher final stretch.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nym/schedule?v=cal&m=09&y=2008

Phillr: The Padres are a whole new team since the Phils saw them last. New 2B, LF, C, CF.

Also Washington recently got Zimmerman (Philly killer), and Austin Kearns (on a tear recently) back. Lastings Milledge also off the DL as recently mentioned.

Cubs will have Soriano back, and Jim Edmonds is rejuvenized with the Cubs. Very different team than when the Phils took 2/3 from them earlier in the year.

I'll be thrilled if they don't get swept by MiL.

CJ, there are reports re: Halladay. Reported on MLBtraderumors.com

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/jays-quietly-di.html

Truth Injection: Santa clause is delivering more than this team right now.

It's more like realistic.

Here's what Jayson Stark said in a chat today:

"I talked to JP Ricciardi about this the other day in my Rumblings column. And he sure doesn't talk like a man who has any interest in trading Halladay. What I've been hearing from other teams is that, in theory, the Blue Jays are saying they'd "listen" on anybody, including Halladay. But when the conversation turns to Halladay, it doesn't get anywhere. It's worth monitoring in the next week. But that guy getting traded is a bigger long shot than Matt Holliday getting traded. Halladay is to that franchise what John Smoltz has been to the Braves -- the face of the franchise on and off the field. Tough to trade with two years left on his contract."

Soriano played in all three of the games we played earlier in the season--Zimmerman played in 2 series against Washington first half as well. Of course, the Phillies were a different team back then which is the real point here. They were playing much better baseball.

I don't care what time Jimmy shows up today. I do want him to average more than 2 pitches/AB tonight. If he can't do that, he can't be the leadoff hitter.

Why would the Jays trade Halladay? I can't believe that anyone had the gumption to even report that. If they won't get rid of Burnett, why in the heck would they get rid of Halladay? Maybe they just think it would be a good idea to make their team completely devoid of talent at every position. Ricchardi should also trade Shawn Marcum and Dustin McGowan. They probably don't need any of those cheap young relievers either. B.J. Ryan, who needs him.

Actually, I would try to trade B.J. Ryan to some sucker team. He is coming off elbow trouble and has lost something off his fastball.

Hyping up the Pirates or Nats? Please. Yeah the Phils have struggled recently but both of these teams are weak competition at best.

Cubs have some new kid bringing it at 99 mph.

You know times are hard when we're debating whether we can beat the Nats and Pirates.

Is Zimmerman actually back?

I hadn't heard that.

Phils seem to be missing Chipper, though.

Ricchardi has had an interesting tenure in Toronto. Assembled a team at first that had enough offense but didn't have the pitching. Now assembled a team with some decent pitching (one of the more underrated rotation in baseball) and they don't have enough offense. Blue Jays been jinxed by injuries and you need everything to break your way when competing against the Red Sox/Yanks.

One thing the Phils have been annoyed the last few years is the decline of the Braves and the up-and-down nature of the Mets. If the Phils were in the AL East instead, they would be also-rans just about every year.

Doubleh: But the Cubs didn't have Rich Harden or Jim Edmonds playing then.

Thus far the Phillies have won games (3/3) against the Nationals when Bergman starts twice (although one of those he gave up 1 run over 7, and was bested by Moyer and Lidge giving up 0). They have also won once against Matt Chico (Although they also lost one when he started).

Tim Redding is 2-0 (14 IP, 0 ER) v.s. Phillies.

It looks like they have some guy named Baelster going in the first game, followed by Redding and Lannon (Haven't faced this year, but LH)

i remember reading an article about hamels' day game troubles last year, and my recollection was that he struggles in day games because his whole pre-game ritual is thrown off. hamels, and most baseball players, are creatures of habit, and when you change the time of a start by 6-7 hours, their pre-game stuff gets thrown out of whack and that is why he struggles.

BJ Ryan is just off the PED's.

It's ridiculous to try and debate whether the Phillies can or can't win upcoming series. We have no idea of pitching match-ups and have no idea how teams will be during that time.

Enough with the "trade Rollins" talk.
You trade players to improve your team, not to punish someone for underperforming.

Truth Injection: Is it your new life mission to disagree with, or dismiss as ridiculous, everything I say. You are a vindictive little cuss aren't you. J-Stroll must be your favorite player or something. Previously you had been sort of amicable.(aside from your unprovoked blowup with GM-Carson).

Actually Utley is my favorite player.

Do I dislike you? No
Am I trying to intentionally disagree with you on everything? No. On the contrary up until the past few days I've actually agreed with you on a few things.

I just find the PED accusations, trade Rollins, and constant Donnie Downer attitude annoying.

Since the Phillies have been rumored to be interested in Fuentes still I wonder what it would take to get him. Not sure how true it was but the blockbuster for both Fuentes and Holliday, we’re still mentioned as a suitor for Fuentes. If we have to include a Victorino in a deal for Fuentes then that will hurt the offense to where it may not matter about how good our bullpen is. If we have to include one of them in the deal I wonder what it would take to expand the deal somehow to include Ryan Spilborghs, I know it’s not likely but it would give us a hitter who gets on base.
Here are his splits: Away: .282/.400/.437/.837
Home: .354/.444/.573/1.017
Vs. RHP .299/.406/.449/.855
Vs. LHP .345/.449/.603/1.052

Again know it’s not likely but if were trading Victorino this year for pitching, somewhere we’re going to need another hitter. If the rumored deal was Happ/Carrasco/Vic/Marson for Fuentes/Holliday, wonder if Victorino/and either Marson or Carrasco could get us Fuentes/Spilborghs. Or Vic/Happ/Golson? I’m not real good at making up deals that would never happen. But I like this idea better than trading for David Eckstein.

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True, other teams could be slumping when the Phils play them--but I guess it ultimately doesn't matter if the Phils bats are still asleep.

It is funny that the (disclaimer: completely speculative, not one ounce of truth to it) trade possibility I through out, (Rollins for Burnett, Eckstein, and a pitching prospect) somehow lost all but one player during translation. It went from three players to David Eckstein. I'm not sure how that happened.

This scares me, there is no easiest part of the season. These are the type of games the Phillies can't win.

I hope time proves me wrong on this. The Phils are only 1 game out, I am not in panic mode yet as We Should Be GM's are, but if they fall 5 games back, then I go into immediate panic mode!


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I believe I posted about a week ago that Utley better step it up. I also posted his monthly batting averages which have been declining a stagering rate since May....I no longer see him as a potential .300+ career hitter as many of us thought he was. I just hope last year and the first two months of year year do not represent the peak of his career, but given his age it might just be that he's in a decline to a respectful .270 with 20 hr hitter. But its not what we all thought of from Utley given the past few years.

I've been saying for so long now that my head is ready to explode but the OFFENSE is and has been DYSFUNCTIONAL for years.

This all started when Thome was brought in and the lineup was focused on Abreu, Thome and Burrell. THe problem back then was that these were the guys who were constantly on base and lacked the speed to keep innings going and get easy runs scored. Things seemed to get clogged down and if they weren't hitting homers and only walking or hitting singles then you had to get 3 or 4 straight hits to get a run home/

This has continued to the current regime of Utley, Howard and Burrell. There just isn't enough speed and not enough contact hitters throughout the lineup to allow for consistent rallies. I know this seems crazy but Burrell hitting 5th is killing this team because he walks too much. If you take away his 25 hrs then he's only scored 29 runs after reaching base. If you add his hits (other than hrs) and walks he's been on base over 140 times and only scored 29 times. That is pathetic. This clearly demonstrates that our 6-8 hitters have been inept. Burrell needs to hit higher in the lineup so he's on base when guys like Utley and Howard are up.

Jimmy's attitude is absolutely ludicrious. The team's hands are tied because they have no other SS option. I would love to bat him 8th for a week to send him a message.

Its apparent Charlie has lost his team. I really don't like the idea of getting rid of the Manager for this collapse but it might need to be done for this team to get back to winning games. I would much rather set a precedence and get rid of the player but we all know that won't happen.

As I've said before the lineup has to be changed dramatically and something has got to give within the current management's thinking process when it comes to putting together a starting 8 that can compete. Baseball has changed the focus is back on pitching and fundamentally sound hitting. The # of hrs are declining and we continue to be a team built around the long ball.

They need to go back to a NL mentality and stop trying to put together a team that will mash the ball just because of the ballpark we play in. For years Boston & Cubs tried to put teams together based upon their parks and recently they've shifted their thinking to putting together teams that make consistent contact/do the little things and have the ability to succeed against good pitchers. Just my 2 cents feel free to rip my opinions as usual. Oh btw the loss of Rowand in this lineup is immense.

J-Roll, J-Ro or whatever the hell he wants to be called has made it quite clear over the years that he has a great desire to eventually play for his hometown Oak. Well Adios Jimmy. Time for you to go! Bye wish your head doesn't explode from all the publicity your stupid quote from last year brought including that MVP award that you didn't deserve.

The Phils are facing Hampton tomorrow?!?

What are the odds that he actually makes it through 5 innings?

doubleh: Could be Mark Mulder all over again.

I mean, really, this is a guy who hurt himself during warm-ups for his first start of the season...

Actually, we just need to hit better. Last year we were 2nd in OPS and 2nd in runs. This year we're 7th in OPS and actually 5th in runs. In June we were about 20th in each, that's why we stunk. Rollins and Utley need to hit better, and it wouldn't kill our catchers to knock one every once in awhile. It's pretty simple.

Rollins excuse that he hit traffic is deplorable. We all know he's constantly the last guy to the park and likes to sleep late. And he purposely wanted to sleep in so he took his own car up to NY just so he wouldn't have to take the team bus to Shea yesterday. Poor little Boy Jimmy hit traffic. WHo would've ever thought that there would be traffic in NYC.

I work in center city and my job starts a 9am. I can't afford to pay $15 a day for parking in the city. So I have to drive 20 minutes to the local speedline then take PATCO into the city another 25 minutes. FOr me to get to work by 9am I need to factor in things like traffic on my drive to the speedline and train delay issues. To compensate for this I give myself extra time and often I'm actually early to work. Its sad that a guy making as much as Rollins can't figure it out. THe more I read about today's athletes the more I begin to wonder why i even waste my time and hard earned $ on this $hit anymore.

Brian G - Thank you for your expert analysis. I think you have struck on something that nobody else has mentioned this year. You clearly are brillant and should be hired by ESPN to work alongside those other dillards like Olney and Kurkijan.

Where is this collapse that some people have referred to? The Phils haven't played well overall the past 5 weeks but to say they "collapsed" or that Cholly has lost this team are just a bit of a stretch.

You can't technically collapse until it's all over. If the Phils still win the division, this will just have been a swoon.

Two words: Mark Cuban

CJ - Exactly or if they go below .500 which is pretty hard to see happening unless they suddenly get the injury bug.

What's a dillard? Is that someone who doesn't give a detailed explanation of their commute when trying to identify the Phillies problems?

Unless something changes, they'll be below .500 soon enough.

Mark Cuban wants to buy the Cubs. I would love it if he wanted to buy the Phils. The Cubs are lovable losers, the Phils are just losers. There's more cachet that comes with owning the Cubs.

Ultimately, though, do you think Cuban would change the culture of baseball ownership if he ends up owning the Cubs?

Thats my point- Cuban won't buy the Cubs. The group consisting of Hank Aaron/Jack Kemp/$$$$ will get them. After not getting the Cubs, Cuban will want a team even more. The Cubs bids are between $650-800 million and the Phils were recently appraised at $481 million. Cuban could buy a big media market ballclub for much less than the Cubs will go for...If he offered 600 mil, they'd probably take it in a second.

He'd get plenty of attention here in Philly.

Jason should draft a letter to Mark Cuban imploring him to buy this club and then we all sign it and send it to him. Once he saw the passion of the Beerleaguers he might be swayed into making an offer.

I'm only half kidding about this.

Yes Cuban buying a baseball team would chance the landscape- at least in the National League. He proved with the Mavericks he is wiling to spend to bring in talent and then spend to make the talent comfortable in the locker rooms and everything.

Flipper: I must say that I find it hilarious that on the one hand you dismiss the day/night stat split as "inane," but on the other hand believe with all your heart that a player's position dictates how he'll hit.

I saw a report today that Cuban is the highest bidder to buy the Cubs at $1.3 billion.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3503599

I fully endorse that idea with utmost sincerity. We should all include personal pleas to him with our signatures. Cuban is the opposite of our owners...He gets fined for arguing calls, while ours don't even like baseball: "stopped watching after the strike".

We'd enter the upper echelon of clubs...our salary would be in the top 5, instead of middle of the pack...Cuban would solve all our problems.

So I guess we should include a sales pitch: "At up to 70% off your normal price, you can't afford not to invest in this enormous market with legendary fan support."

Of course, you might have to put in that the Phils are something of a "fixer-upper," at least with regard to their farm system, scouting dept, rotation, etc.

Hi there phill fans...Mets fan here from N.Y. just checkin out your blog and also just wanted to remind you what a fluke last year was...you will never again win OUR division..so i hope you enjoyed last year.

Quote of the year: Billy Wagner on facing pinchhitter jimmy "overrated" rollins...
Q: Where you excited??
A: "Not really...its jimmy rollins not barry bonds"...and the reporters laughed..priceless!!

Best things about the Mets:
1. The Money
2. The Class
3. The Theme Song

Wow, clout.

You really are pathological about claiming people said things that they never said, aren't you?

Do you lie pathologically about other things as well?

edward: The Mets are up by ONE game, not 20. And winning the division once in 16 years hardly qualifies it as being the Mets' division.

He might have been nervous had he been facing Pat Burrell, though...

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