Game chat: Phillies, Astros resume series; J-Roll out

Kyle Kendrick (1-1, 6.14 ERA) and Roy Oswalt (0-3, 9.00) lead their teams to battle tonight at 7:05 p.m. at Citizens Bank Park. Jimmy Rollins remains on the sidelines.

Preview: Tonight's game features two right-handers at interesting points in their career. Kendrick is trying to avoid a sophomore slump and prove he’s for real. Oswalt is trying to disprove critics who argue that his career has reached its apex and it’s all downhill from here. They’re both trying to rebound from terrible starts. Kendrick walked a career high six in just 2 1-3 innings. Oswalt was uncharacteristically bombarded for four home runs and eight runs against the Marlins.

Feliz bats second: Charlie Manuel’s two-hole hitter hokey pokey continues, as Pedro Feliz sticks his right foot in tonight.

Comments

[Jeltz For the Hall]

From last thread...

Another alternate lineup...

Utley
Werth
Howard
Burrell
Jenkins
Feliz
Ruiz
Bruntlett
Kendrick

Now I don't love it (too right-hand heavy at the bottom and I'm not thrilled about batting Ryno 3rd), but isn't this better than batting Pete Happy 2nd?

[J. Weitzel]

Originally, Manuel’s two-hole criteria appeared to hinge on a blend of speed and contact. Obviously, on-base prowess has never been a factor for Cholly up at the top. Dobbs, Werth, Bruntlett and Ruiz have taken turns. They all have "some" speed to justify the selection. So what's the deal here? Feliz doesn't have speed. What's the reason? Hottest-hitting Latino?

[MG]

Phils' overall stats out of the No. 2 hole:

BA - .259 (12th)
R - 6 (tied for 7th)
OBP - .328 (8th)
SLG - .431 (8th)
OPS - .759 (8th)

The real issue at the top of the lineup has actually been Howard out of the No. 4 hole:

BA - .180 (16th)
R - 7 (tied for 5th but Phils at 8th best)
OBP - .333 (10th)
SLG - .400 (15th)
OPS - .733 (13th)

This game though is on Kendrick. Banged up Astros lineup that really only has punch right now from the middle of the lineup (Berkman-Lee-Tejada). Kendrick just can't give up free passes tonight to either Bourn or Loretta. If he gives up 2 or 3 walks to these guys, he won't get through the lineup twice.

[clout]

JW: If Feliz's hits against Oswalt came in games in which Oswalt pitched well overall, then this move makes sense. Some hitters just own some pitchers.
If all of Feliz's hits came in games in which Oswalt was knocked out early, then the move may not be wise. I see that those 25 ABs vs. Oswalt came in 15 games over 6 years. That's not even 2 ABs per game, which makes me think they came in games in which Oswalt didn't last very long (i.e. EVERYONE was hitting him)

Dave X: Thanks for clarifying on your "Eaton will suck" prediction. I agree that his ERA+ will wind up around 85-90 and his ERA around 5.00. It should be noted that would be a substantial improvement over last season.

[clout]

MG: Note that Lee & Tejada are both righties. If KK stays true to form he should neutralize them while having his problems with Bourn & Berkman.

[MG]

Would be nice too to see the Phils' offense though give Kendrick some decent support early. Might help to keep Kendrick from nibbling some much if he knows he can make a mistake pitch and not put the Phils down a run or two.

[MG]

If Eaton ends up with an ERA around his career numbers (say 4.75 ERA) or so in 25-30 starts, Eaton will win 11-12 games. That will be just fine. Frankly, it will be better that what I expect from Moyer or Kendrick this season.

[J. Weitzel]

MG: Does Zito look as bad as they say he does? He lost again today ...

[CJ]

From last thread:

Mike Cunningham: That's a typo, right? You didn't actually mean Feliz in the 4 hole. That's crazier than the 2 hole. If you're desperate for a righty, you move up the red hot Pat Burrell into the 4 hole, move Howard down to 5th and suffer through Feliz in the 6 hole.

[Mike Cunningham]

I would move Burrell into the 4th hole while Howard is in his slump. And have Feliz bat 6th. But for tonight only (if Jenkins is batting 2nd in your scenario) I'd have Feliz bat 4th.

.900+ slugging is pretty good.

And Burrell has NEVER hit Oswalt.

[CJ]

Mike: Burrell has had all of NINE at bats against Oswalt. You really think that tonight Feliz is a better hitter than Burrell? Really??

[clout]

MG: He might win more than that. Despite the revisionist history on this board that says he won 10 games because of huge run support, in fact, Hamels, Kendrick and Moyer all had BETTER run support than Eaton's 5.62 per game and he won 10 games.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

KK's BB/K ratio is off the charts bad at the moment. 8/1!?! Wow. He needs to pitch well tonight.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

I predict Bourn will be on 2nd shortly.

[Tray]

Clout, my conclusion would be that Feliz came off the bench in some of those games. I mean, wouldn't it be odd if, in the 15 games that Oswalt faced the Giants (and Feliz played in), Oswalt failed to make it through the lineup twice more often than not? What's his lifetime ERA against the Giants? Also, I think you have to be wrong about the 15 games, because b-ref says that Oswalt's faced the Giants just ten times in his career.

[Spitz]

4 strikes, 2 balls so far Jeltz.

Are you watching on ESPN gamecast? I got tired of ESPN, because I feel like they are slow / inaccurate. I watch on Phillies.com now

[Sophist]

How does Bourn run in that uniform? He looks like he's wearing pajama pants. . .

[CJ]

Hmmm... got Bourn on my fantasy team... how do I root... ;-)

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Even injured(?), Bourn can fly.

[CJ]

Damn, can't even throw him out in a pitch out.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Me too, CJ...I hope he steals a lot and gets stranded.

[Zach Morris]

Sucks to have a guy steal on you who looks so visibly pained.

[CJ]

Wow, fortunate K for KK.

[The Theory]

I like to see Bourn do well... so long as that doesn't lead to an Astros run.

[CJ]

I don't believe for a second that Bourn is hurt. At least, not his legs.

[clout]

Tray: I must be misreading BB-Ref. 10 games makes a lot more sense. Oswalt allowed 73 hits and 17 BB in 59 IP vs. SF, which isn't so hot. Maybe he's afraid of orange and black.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Carlos Lee is a beast. He hit it too hard for it to be a homerun.

That 1-2 pitch by KK was more of a strike than the one that Berkman got called out on.

[CJ]

If he's going inside like that on Lee, it's got to be way down. Bad pitch.

[CJ]

Boy, had KK hit that corner on ball 2 or ball 3 against Lee...

But, that's why they say this is a game of inches. We were close to getting out of the inning with no runs... but they were awfully close to getting 2 runs!

[Jack]

Kendrick has definitely replaced Eaton in both the "will be happy anytime we get a win in one of his starts" category and the "most likely to be demoted for Kris Benson" category. I know I'm more biased than most against him, but he just doesn't do anything for me as legit major league pitcher.

[Sophist]

Not a bad inning from Kendrick - he got some of the close calls he failed to get early on in Shea. Utley or Ruiz make a better throw and he may have gotten out cleanly.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Mixed bag of a first inning from KK. Two Ks, which is good; however, he gave up 1 single and 1 straight-up rocket. KK's pitching is like real-estate, it's all about location, location, location.

PS Pete Happy IS batting second. I thought it might be a belated April Fool's joke.

[Sophist]

Jeltz, the single was, to be fair, a ground ball that didn't get out of the infield.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Pete Happy = GIDP, if not for Werth's underrated speed.

[Jack]

Werth stays hot.

Pedro, no DP here. Come on dude.

[CJ]

Well, I guess Feliz didn't get his MONSTER numbers against Oswalt by being patient... if that at bat is any indication.

[CJ]

Jack: What Kendrick did for me was pitch great last year, something Eaton didn't do.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Absolutely, Sophist. If Chase makes that play, it's a 1-2-3 inning...but he didn't and then Lee hit an absolute cruise missile. Frankly, I'm surprised that ball didn't go through the fence.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

An absolute TON of empty seats at the Zen tonight...no giveaways?

[Spitz]

Come on Ryno - just take a walk to get to Pat the Bat.

Anyone else thinking that?

[clout]

Jack: What did he do for you last season?

[CJ]

That's the way to do it Ryno!

[Jack]

There we go Howard

[Spitz]

HA! Shows you what I know

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Bad pitch by Oswalt there. Wonder why he didn't pitch (unintentionally) around Ryno to go after a guy that he OWNS? Of course, this is a different Manchine than Oswalt is used to.

[CJ]

Geeeez-us... Burrell is locking in early on the count.

[RSB]

Nice AB, nice job by Howard. Terrible 3-2 pitch by Oswalt, though.

[Jack]

Clout: Came up big for us by pitching above his level and getting lucky. Got the most run support in the league which is why he got 10 wins. I'm not saying he wasn't real important for us last year; he was. But I have no expectations for him to be that successful again, because he hasn't indicated he has the talent for it.

[Jeltz For the Hall]

Wow...Manchine is just locked in at the plate right now, period.

[CJ]

No one seems to "OWN" Burrell this year. And, again, let me point out that Burrell has all of 9 ABs against Oswalt. Hardly a sample size to get excited about.

Burrell, 1-1 vs. Oswalt tonight
Feliz, 0-1 vs. Oswalt tonight

So much for trends...