The Phillies are winning the games they're supposed to win, but last night's unrelenting display proved they're no longer on equal footing with the cellar dwellers of the National League.
Here's what I liked most from last night. With the Phillies still in control, but the Nationals within striking distance, the Phils punched the Nationals squarely in the chops with a leadoff triple from Michael Bourn, followed by a two-run jack from Jimmy Rollins, putting the game out of reach 9-3. On a raw night for baseball, another team – possibly the Phils from a week ago – would have rushed to pack up and go home.
The last few nights have been good therapy as the Phillies continue to claw toward .500. Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins and Aaron Rowand are locked in. Pat Burrell is hitting balls he wouldn’t normally hit and driving in runs. As a team, they’re manufacturing runs better. And Jon Lieber showcased something we wouldn't have expected two months ago: dominance. The box score won’t reflect it, but aside from the 4th inning, which included a misplay by Rollins, Lieber worked ahead of hitters and painted the black all night.
How much is a byproduct of the opposition? The debate continues. Truthfully, Washington trotted an especially bad crop of pitchers to the mound, perticularly in relief. Rule 5 picks and Triple-A lifers abound. It’s a shame what’s happened to starter John Patterson; he’s a shadow of his former self.
Take nothing away from the Phils. They still need to win these games. They just happen to be doing so in convincing, inspired fashion.
Game chat: Hamels aims for series sweep
Preview: Cole Hamels (2-0, 2.57 ERA) is coming off the best start of his young career, a 15-strikeout shutout over the Reds, becoming the youngest pitcher to notch 15 strikeouts in a game since Mark Prior in 2003. Shawn Hill (1-2, 2.92 ERA) has been one of the few bright spots for Washington. He'll try to help the Nats avoid their first sweep against the Phillies since 2005. Aaron Rowand tries to extend his hitting streak to 14 games.




Jason, we should get some answers if things have really turned around starting next Monday in Atlanta.
Posted by: Dave Kingman | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Smith optioned to Ottawa, FABIO TO PHILLY!
Posted by: joe | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Its ironic that we (I included) were down on Rowland,Burrel,Alfonseca and Lieber and as of now they are doing extremely well. Maybe we can get on Howard more so he can get his stroke back. (just kidding) Nothing can help Nunez though. We were on Bourn the other day and he has gotten 2 hits since.
Posted by: fljerry | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 11:59 AM
and that would put Werth and Madson on the bubble.
Posted by: joe | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Madson isn't on the bubble, for two reasons. one, he has no options and would have to be waived. he would not pass through waivers. two, he hasn't given up a run in his last four appearances (5 2/3 innings), and since April 12 has a one ER, 8 H, 0 BB, and 2 SO in 7 2/3 IP, and his ERA has dropped more than 4.5 points (he did allow 2 of 3 inherited runners to score, but a bases-loaded 1-out situation is pretty tough).
he's not lights-out, but at the moment he's pitching like a perfectly acceptable 6th/7th inning guy.
Posted by: ae | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Can't believe the front office moved that fast on Smith. Bring out the Dictator...
We're goin' sweeping today.
Posted by: Mike H. | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:11 PM
you're right, i forgot that madson was out of options, and yes, his performance has been much better snce Brett went to the pen.
But Werth. Ugh.
Posted by: joe | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:12 PM
"Therapy" is a very interesting term to describe the Phils. No team in the majors has been more schizophrenic than the Phils to start the season.
Winning 5 games is not special but it is in context to where this team was after their 8-1 loss to the Mets last Tuesday. This team quit in that game and I am shocked at the Phils have a decent chance to finish the month at .500.
Instead of "Goose Bumps" as their marketing campaign slogan, I suggest "Motion Sickness" because this team looks like it will duplicate the wild ups and downs of last season.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM
I'd like to see "pedal to the metal" approach to today's game. Keep it going, boys.
It's clear this team is finding its identity. I'd like that identity to include beating teams into submission.
I hope for another strong game from Cole, and would love to see Ryan notch a couple/three hits.
Posted by: Bridoc10 | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Uncle Cholly and the Great Frisco Freak out!
Posted by: John | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Not surprised on the quick move to send Smith down to Ottawa. Smith was almost desperate to throw a strike last night and practically aiming. It is going to be a while before he is up in Philly again. Maybe not even until Sept. 1 when the roster expands.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Let's hope the Dictator does a better job than Smith as our LOOGY. Let's also hope that Smith finds himself in Ottawa and can make his way back to the big team with some good stuff. I hope the best for both of these players.
Looking forward to Cole retaking the strikeout leadership in the NL today along with another win.
Posted by: Lake Fred | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:28 PM
quick jason, knock on wood: you just compared Cole to Mark Prior.
Posted by: mm | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Thee Model Dictator returns, women are swooning, Cubans are fleeing, and the Phils are going to keep winning!
Posted by: GM-Carson | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:37 PM
So much for my prediction that Brito rather than Castro would get the call...
Truth be told, it would be nice to have two lefthanders in the 'pen when it's time to face the Braves and Mets, but I guess that can't happen when nobody out there (I'm looking at you, Madson) has any options remaining.
Posted by: Alby | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:10 PM
I can't get the comment box to appear in the next thread about Fabio. I was looking at the photo and Fabio's face looks thinner than my bad memory remembered, so I went to Google Images and requested Fabio Castro. The second thing to pop up is Dr. Fabio Castro's Plastic Surgery site out of Florida. We can now also refer to the Model Dictator as the Plastic Surgeon! He can pitch surgically to cut up the opposing batters and make them look silly!
Posted by: Lake Fred | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:11 PM
Alright! Bay of Pigs back in the 'pen! Woooot!
Posted by: Malcolm | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:15 PM
By the way, Castro's out pitch should be called "The Bay of Pigs Invasion."
Posted by: Malcolm | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Didn't Roger "Rocket" Clemens nickname his out pitch the lame "Mr. Splitee"?
Boy of Pigs Invasion sounds much more menacing.
Posted by: GM-Carson | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:22 PM
Unfortunately, his spring training out pitch was generally called "Ball Four." Let's hope that's behind him.
Posted by: Alby | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:24 PM
Carson, you might be thinking of Randy Johnson, who called his slider "Mr. Snappy," I think.
Posted by: Alby | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:25 PM
Brito got hurt, pulled his groin i think, thats why he didnt get the call
Posted by: Tony | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:29 PM
Not close enough to Philly, so has my prediction that Cholly's run-in with "a local radio media personality" will be spun into firing this team up to win games, come true yet? He's either a moron or a genius, depending on whether its a win-streak or losing-streak. Got to love the media.
How *is* "unnamed local radio personality" handling the win-streak, anyway? No doubt he's taking credit for it.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:30 PM
alby -
well, it seems that mr. smith leared the "all four" pitch from him, then.
smith won't be back for a while. the erratic throw to 2nd is a major case of nerves.
Posted by: joe | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:31 PM
Smith reminded me of Gavin Floyd the way he looked this season.
Posted by: J. Weitzel | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:33 PM
The Phils visit San Francisco next weekend, after the Atlanta series. You can understand not wanting to visit Mr. Bonds' Neighborhood with only Matt Smith as a lefty relief option. Too bad we couldn't borrow Fultz back just for that series...
I still think that eventually the Phils will need both lefties in their bullpen. But I'm not sure who'd go in order to make room for the second one; no way Rosario would clear waivers. It would be a nice irony if the team suddenly found themselves with *too many* usable relief pitchers.
Posted by: dajafi | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:40 PM
How bad was Matt Smith..11 BB's, 1 K in 4 innings. Steve Blass, famous for losing the strike zone, had 93 BB's, 29 K's in 93 innings (73-74) And one of the all time wild guys, minor leaguer Steve Dalkowski, had 375 BB's, but 353K's in 180 innings (57-58). He gave up 75 hits in those 180 innings.
Posted by: martin | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:43 PM
I'm just concerned with having quality major league pitchers who can throw strikes, regardless of whether they're righty or lefty. Smith was pretty useless against everyone. I have doubts Castro will be much better, then again, Smith was shockingly futile. We'll see ...
Posted by: J. Weitzel | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:44 PM
Smith reminds me of that kid on your little league team right after tee ball that would walk 6 batters in a row and then the umpire would extend the strike zone from head to toes so the team could finaly get out of the inning. Sad thing is I really think the umpire last night gave him some gift strikes.
Over/under on Hamels K's tonight is 7 1/2.
Posted by: Tony | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:44 PM
Did you make that up Tony or is that an actual line? (I mean if betting were legal and of course it isn't, just curious)
Posted by: yt | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:48 PM
Hamels will have a 10+ K game today...total domination!
Castro can't do much worse than Smith did.
We should have signed Ricardo Rincon to a minor league deal.
Posted by: GM-Carson | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:49 PM
Cardinal sin of a reliever is walking guys and Smith grossly violated that by walking 10 in 3+ innings.
Posted by: MG | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:51 PM
Tony: Against the Nats, I'll take the over.
Hopefully Smith pitches well in Ottawa and get some confidence back. He'll be back; inevitably someone will go on the DL.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:51 PM
Put me down for the over also. He may not allow a hit either.
Posted by: JH2 | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:03 PM
I'll go 9 K for Cole in the over under. I dont know what the weather is like so, my prediction is not solid.
mm: fortunately (knock on wood): Hamels is not such a power pitcher like Prior. Additionally, if I'm not mistaken, Priors best pitch was a hard breaking curveball. From my understanding, throwing the curve is much rougher on the arm. It doesnt seem like pitchers that have a changeup as their dominant pitch end up getting hurt as much (At least with the arm). Look at Hoffman, he is still going strong (Except last night) over 40. Glavine is another good example of this, he has not had a long history of injury problems with his arm. It seems that power pitchers are much more prone to arm injuries than guys that get outs on changeups and the like. I think Clout or Kdon pointed this out a few weeks ago, and I agree with them.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:05 PM
Hey! I just got an idea. Rememeber "The Wolf Pack" Section with Wolfman Masks, and then the "The Padilla Flotila" Section with slightly drunken Philly Phans wearing Colorful Mexican Blankets and overly large Sombreros holding paper cut out boats at the Vet?
How about "The Fabulous Fabios!" sitting in one section next to "The Castro Cubans!" with the first section wearing Long Blonde Wigs, Silk Hawaiian Print Shirts Open Down to One Button Below The Navel, and each Holding Up a Harliquin Romance Paperback with a Fabio Type on the Cover; and the second section wearing Castro Green Army Caps, Plastic Groucho Marx Fake Black Plastic Eyeglasses - Big Plastic Noses - and Black Plastic Mustaches, and Long Black Fake Beards.
When our lights out lefty pitching hero comes into the game the Fabios begin CHANTING "TASTES GREAT!!! beers held high, followed by the Castros CHANTING "LESS FILLING!!!"
Posted by: siralden | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:09 PM
yt, I made it up.
What does everyone think of innings 4-6 when it's just Wheeler and Matthews commentating?
Posted by: Tony | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:14 PM
I honestly think that if the Phils are in contention after the break, Gillick moves to get a lefty arm for the bullpen. I think that if the Phils were to make the playoffs (Playoffs??, Playoffs??), then it would be wise to have at least 2 lefties in the pen.
Rosario: I've been very impressed with this guy so far. Aside from the 13 inning catastrophe, Rosario has been excellent thus far. I still cannot believe that we got this guy for cash. At this point, Alfonseca and Rosario make the Phils bullpen totally different than last year. Two power arms that were nonexistent last year (aside from Gordon). With Myers (think what you want about the move) in there this team is a lot differrent. I just hope Lieber can continue his good stuff.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:15 PM
Come June, they'll need to get an experienced lefty for the 'pen, if they're finished worrying about insurance for the back end.
So far the trade deadline needs are as follows:
1. Experienced lefty (and we used to have a damn good one.)
2. Bench player (preferably lefty OF) who can actually get the job done.
3. Possibly a long-innings eater. And that's not a necessity.
Posted by: Malcolm | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:25 PM
"What does everyone think of innings 4-6 when it's just Wheeler and Matthews commentating?"
I had it on mute for most of those innings yesterday.
Posted by: stjoehawk | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:27 PM
On a related note, Smith was definitely one of the players namedropped constantly by Pat Gillick this offseason as part of the young and promising nucleus. I wonder if Gillick has changed his mind about getting a veteran left-hander.
Posted by: J. Weitzel | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:28 PM
Lineups
Standard lineup for Phils with Barajas catching and batting 8th.
Nats go with Wilson at ss and Restovich in LF against the southpaw Hamels.
Phils
1. J Rollins, SS
2. S Victorino, RF
3. C Utley, 2B
4. R Howard, 1B
5. P Burrell, LF
6. W Helms, 3B
7. A Rowand, CF
8. R Barajas, C
9. C Hamels, P
Nats
1. J Wilson, SS
2. R Belliard, 2B
3. R Zimmerman, 3B
4. D Young, 1B .260
5. A Kearns, RF .275
6. R Church, CF .293
7. M Restovich, LF
8. B Schneider, C
9. S Hill, P
Posted by: Billy Mac | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:29 PM
Malcolm: You're right on about needing a bench player/pinch hitter. I'd try to trade Barajas (then call up Coste) and Werth for a 4th outfielder who's worth a damn. Hopefully somewhere a catcher gets hurt so Barajas will be of value to someone.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:29 PM
Shawn Hill has given the Phils problems in the past. I recall him shutting the Phils down last year. I am expecting a low scoring game today.
Posted by: Billy Mac | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:35 PM
I can't see getting much of equal value for Barajas and Werth. Yes, some teams may be in need of a backup backstop, but Werth ain't gonna get much.
I'd almost rather package Smith, who has more of a future, if the return is right.
Posted by: Malcolm | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:37 PM
great. as much as i recognize WHY barajas is starting this afternoon i just hate when hes in there PERIOD and i cant be stopped from complaining about it. but GO PHILS! sweep these natholes, take 2 of 3 this weekend and get jacked for the braves series!
Posted by: craig one | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:47 PM
Maybe they can send Barajas to Oakland, their backup catcher was optioned to the minors leaving Piazza as the only backup to Jason Kendall.
Posted by: Dave Kingman | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:50 PM
Don't think trading Barajas is an option yet, as he was a FA signee. That doesn't change the fact that the Phils still need more LH help in the 'pen and a bench player/PH.
Hate to say it, I may be driving the Burrell Bandwagon, but I don't see 7.5 K's from King Cole today. Usually, after an outing like the one he's coming off of, teams review a ton of tape to see how he's getting guys out and adjust accordingly. Nats are going to be sitting change-up today. Will probably be a souvenir ball or two in the left field stands. This one is going to come down to whether or not the Phils' bats stay hot.
Posted by: Willard Preacher | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:53 PM
Yeah, neither one of those guys is going to get other GMs to put the Phils on speed dial (which is pretty much why I'd try to dump them). But I think we gave up less for Conine last year which is the type of 4th OF/pinch hitter type guy I'd try to get.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:54 PM
I think the last game they were sitting change up and he was throwing fastballs by them, at least early in the count.
Posted by: JH2 | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:55 PM
Barajas isn't going anywhere. Free agent signees can't be dealt without their permission prior to June 1st.
Posted by: GM-Carson | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:55 PM
Who the heck would want Barjas AND Werth?
"unnamed radio personality" isn't taking credit for the Phils success. I'm not that big of a fan of his, but he wasn't in the wrong this time.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 02:59 PM
I'm not talking about today, I'm saying Barajas is a guy they should look to trade if they're contending in July. Or even if they're not contending. All he's doing is keeping Coste in Ottawa.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:01 PM
BB: Pat Gillick, that's who.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Good one Jeltz.
Personally: I don't care a whole lot about Barajas being on this team. He's got a 1 year deal(right?) and has little trade value anyway. Ruiz should be the go to guy. Werth is a waste of space.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:11 PM
Regarding the idea of naming Castro's out pitch the Bay of Pigs Invasion: Wasn't that invasion a failed mission? Perhaps he should call it the Cuban Missile... of course, that implies a "crisis" as well.
Posted by: Shiny Demon | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Maybe we should see if he has an out pitch.
Posted by: Bedrosian's Beard | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Going back to last night's game thread, I want to register agreement with ae's take on Burrell: "yes, he obviously doesn't have his power stroke yet. but to his credit, instead of forcing it and struggling at the plate (like, maybe, Howard?) he's doing a fine job at getting hits and getting on base."
This is a good point. I don't see Burrell swinging for the fences despite the low power totals. I'm seeing better swings, better contact, and even a little better idea of the strike zone. If he keeps with the approach he's been taking, the homers will come.
Anyone see this little controversy about Gary Thorne claiming on the air that Curt Schilling's infamous 'bloody sock' from the '04 ALCS was actually *red paint*? Philadelphia Will Do has a fun account of this and the predictable outrage in its wake.
Posted by: RickSchuBlues | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:36 PM
Not to jump on a bandwagon, but hey! Barajas leads off the third! Awesome!
Posted by: JZ | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:37 PM
So that ends that.
Could Manuel bat him 9th and let Hamels turn over the lineup in the 8th spot? Not that the lineup isn't turning over this inning anyway. Just saying.
Posted by: JZ | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:38 PM
If Barajas and Nunez were in the lineup on the same day, I'd bat the pitcher 7th.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:45 PM
what's going on with Hamels here? I'm just listening on the radio, but this doesn't sound good.
Posted by: ae | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:46 PM
ae, he just left a couple of pitches up, he's not perfect. Even the best give up hits. And aside from those three pitches that were hit hard, they have hardly hit the ball out of the infield. 4 K's though 4. You must be listening to the Muts radio station.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:54 PM
As for Hill shutting down the Phillies, he has been pretty good the whole year. ERA under 3.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:56 PM
If Nunez and Barajas were in the lineup on the same day, I'd throw kdon, RickSchuBlues, Parker and Weitzel into the lineup just to see who'd get a hit first.
Posted by: JZ | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:57 PM
no Parker, I'm listening to the BIG TALKER. obviously guys aren't going to be perfect on every pitch, but I don't see how giving up three consecutive well-hit flyballs to the "heart" of the Nats order (yeah, after cruising up to that point) isn't a little alarming.
Posted by: ae | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:58 PM
Cole is not locating as well today, but it is not like Gavin Floyd out there.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 03:58 PM
JZ, I'd bet on RSB, he is more focused, especially with RISP. J/k RSB.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:01 PM
This game is flying - 4 1/2 innings played in under an hour.
Posted by: Jim | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:02 PM
Zimmerman, Young and Kearns are all legit talents, you know, it's not like suddenly they became scrubs by donning a Nats uniform. Our offense, though, needs to get going and at this rate we'll never even get to their bullpen.
Posted by: Tray | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:03 PM
If there were RISP, RSB would walk. Clout would tell him it's as good as a hit, but RSB would still feel bad for not coming through with the ribbies. Then Nunez would K, leaving the bases loaded.
Posted by: Steve Jeltz | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:07 PM
ae, what is the BIG TALKER. I was kidding about the Muts radio station, by the way. It just seemed that if they were making those three instances sound that bad then they didnt know what they were taling about. However, if they are bashing on Wes Helms baserunning, they would be right.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:07 PM
Jeltzie, sounds like a dream. I don't know why I would be pitched around, though, even to get to Nunez.
Posted by: RickSchuBlues | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:10 PM
They were not really talking about the pitches so much as they seemed to be back to back to back, perhaps because the radio guys get so bogged down in the discussions.
Basically, they hadn't finished talking about burrel's throw before the homer, and didn't finish talking about the homer before the shot off the top of the wall.
Were they actually on successive pitches, or we're they just behind on their play by play?
Posted by: yt | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:12 PM
RSB, I'd pitch around a sack of potatos to get to nunez.
Posted by: yt | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:14 PM
Parker, WPHT (via MLB.com). listening to Rush Limbaugh and Michael Smerconish ads is way more depressing than anything the Phillies have to offer.
Posted by: ae | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:14 PM
THey were consecutive pitches hit by Zimmerman, homer, hanging changeup (off the wall by Kearns). Good play by Helms, he didnt do much but at least he made the catch. Bases loaded now.
yt, what station is the BIG TALKER?
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:16 PM
yt, exactly. without watching it, that whole sequence seemed to happen in the space of like thirty seconds.
Posted by: ae | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:16 PM
Why walk Kearns to face Church, just a lefty/righty thing? Actually Church is just 4 for 23 against lefties this year, Kearns hitting .318 against them, I guess that makes sense... or not.
Posted by: Tray | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:19 PM
so who had the under today?
Posted by: ae | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:19 PM
Man, Church got lucky there. That barely flew over third. Wasn't well struck. Hope Cole can hold it to 3 and bats get hot.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:19 PM
Need a DP in the worst way.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:21 PM
What are they waiting for here with Hamels? He's lost it today. Get the pen up already!
Posted by: RickSchuBlues | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:22 PM
Yup Big talker on MLB.com
Posted by: yt | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:24 PM
Jason: You're absolutely right about Gillick and Smith, but to be absolutely fair we should note that Smith last year and through the offseason was hailed as a great young star by nearly every poster on here. When I raised questions about his lack of experience and scouting reports that projected him as no better than average, I was mauled to pieces. Now everyone acts like they never had a kind word to say.
Posted by: clout | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:27 PM
RSB, I wouldn't say Cole had lost it, better location on two or three pitches, a little luck here and there and the Nats have no runs on the board. Thats the way it works sometimes, but he definitely didnt have his best control today, if that is your point RSB. The thing is, Cole has bad control he gives up 4 runs. A guy like Lieber or Moyer and it is 8 or 9. Not bashing them, but Cole can get away with a lot more location mistakes than those guys.
Gas Can looks like it was recently refilled. (He needs this out bad).
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:31 PM
I have no stats at my disposal to back this up, but doesn't Cole seem to struggle in day games?
Please reply.
Posted by: Bridoc10 | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:31 PM
Hamels and the Phils were due for one. And I think Hill is an emerging talent. Enjoy the rest of the afternoon.
Posted by: J. Weitzel | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:33 PM
oh please, not all of us were in love with a 27-year-old loogy as a "great young star." some of us were skeptical from the get-go. in fact, there were probably a good number here who didn't know the difference between matt j smith and matt w smith from last year. i think you're overstating it just a bit.
in other news, looks like geary's logging some plate time this year.
Posted by: gr | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:33 PM
Parker, I wonder if the bases-loaded walk finally convinced you. Hamels lost his command entirely. He was getting behind in the count and getting hit hard. The 2-run single was a chip shot, but if you want to talk about "luck", just prior to that Dmitri Young had ripped a liner right at Helms. Manuel stayed with him a little too long, in my opinion.
Posted by: RickSchuBlues | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:35 PM
I'm glad they pulled Hamels. He's been over 100 pitches every start I think and was up to 92 today, a cold day. The last thing we need is to wear him out early.
Posted by: clout | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:35 PM
Bridoc:
Hamels: 2-4 6.00 ERA. (Day games) (Career)
7-4, 3.09 ERA (Night Games) (career)
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:35 PM
Kearns doesn't look pretty out there, but that was a good catch.
Posted by: clout | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:35 PM
gr: Go back and look at the threads.
Posted by: clout | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:36 PM
Just when I'm back to being excited about watching/listening to a Phils game and they have momentum, they go and turn in a crappy effort like so far today. I know it's not over, but the outcome doesn't look good.
Posted by: GM-Carson | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:37 PM
Hill looks like he belongs on the Braves, not the Nationals. Phillies just can't adjust and keep trying to pull.
Posted by: RickSchuBlues | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:37 PM
clout: all of them? how about you be more specific, sicne you're charging you got mauled to pieces. in any case, since i don't really care, i'd just offer that i never bought in to him being anything other than a possibility. if gillick mentioend him as a "rising star" i suspect it was more PR due to the lopsidedness of the trade than his being the second coming of terry mulholland in his prime. every one who liked him seemed to base their projections on the fact that he should have gotten a called third strike against lance berkmann in september.
also, gameday was slow. it was bourne, not geary.
Posted by: gr | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:42 PM
RSB, if you read my whole comment, I said that he didn't have his best control, but he wasn't horrible. Didnt look as good as other day but, not horrible.
Clout: I dont think anybody thought that Smith was great. I know I didn't, but he did pitch well last year, even if he didn't pitch a lot of innings. I dont think he is great, but I also dont think he is as bad as he showed at the beginning of this year. I think he will probably be back up soon, assuming he gets his control back, Castro is wild, and we dont deal for a lefty reliever.
Posted by: Parker | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:43 PM
I think most of us felt Smith was going to be able to competently fill the role of left-handed spot reliever. I don't think *anyone* thought of him as a rising star.
Posted by: RickSchuBlues | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:45 PM
gr: I'm not saying every single occasional poster on Beerleaguer talked about him. Just what the consensus was. Despite the fact he only had 20 big league innings. anyway, sending him back was the right thing to do.
Posted by: clout | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 04:46 PM