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'expert anaylsis' from Marzano.. ha :)

And I'm not sure why Pat or Bobby should get a ton of criticism...but overall looks like a good piece to me.

Brian Startare(sp.?) is pretty good on the Phils overnight.

Wha? You don't like Johnny Marz? I like Johnny Marz. Did anyone see his piece on Comcast where he took Sal Fasano on a tour of South Philly?

marz is a knothead. whenever he gets pushed into a corner by a caller on his thoughts, he always plays the access card. he's an insider, so he knows better. gimme a break. i'm sick of hearing him rag on lieberthal like he's the worst catcher in baseball history. and whatever happened to his indictment of the organization for not making billy wagner its number one offseason priority? suddenly letting him walk was a great decision. convenient.

Whether I agree with his take or not is beside the point. I cannot recall anyone doing anything quite like what Marzano is doing with the Phillies. I like the personality and the point of view. He took Fasano to his childhood home to meet his mother. I thought it was fantastic.

That's kind of why I dislike Marz. He really plays up the Paisano thing, and I find it a little annoying, especially coming from a person that was largely a bum as a player. He has some insight, I guess, but nothing that any other former player couldn't give us.

Johnny Marz knows more about baseball than anyone on here (myself included), does that mean he should be worshipped or reviled? No, just deal with it.

Marz flip flops way too much. I caught Rhea's show that Saturday too, it was very good. She's got a good show on Saturday AM's. It's too bad that most of us are in bed or not near a radio when it is on.

Gee, I think Marzano is OK but I wouldn't put him up there with Didinger.

But I don't think he's a knothead, either. If you want someone who grabs an opinion and sticks with it come hell or highwater and will never, ever consider that things can change or there could be another legitimate viewpoint, WIP has just the guy for you in the drive-home time slot.

Drive-home time is my best chance to listen to talk radio and for baseball talk I always gravitate to Jody Mac on 950 or the two Noo Yawkers on WFAN. At least those guys can admit they were wrong about something when facts emerge that prove it, which to my mind is the first quality that a good analyst must have. Anybody who thinks he is right all the time is just an idiot. Or a moron. Or a geeeee-nius.

He's not as good as Didinger. I agree.

"Marz flip flops way too much"

And that would make him different than any of us how?

I like Marzano. Sometimes I think he just says what the callers want to hear but for the most part I like him, especially some of his stories.

I don't like our chances vs. Capuano tonight. Although one would think it's hard for a starter to beat the same twice in 2 weeks.

Interesting all these "flip-flop" comments, I could have sworn that term was being flung around about a week ago.

Nat, I agree with you. I can't stand WIP. Mike and the Mad Dog will talk about any team, anywhere. Jody Mac is always fair and pleasant. The cancer that's on between 3 and 7 on WIP makes me want to puke. He's always had it out for Abreu, probably because he got dissed by him at some point. He continues to point out how selfish Abreu is and how he "refuses" to lead off. It's bullshit and damn near yellow journalism. And his drunk, low life callers believe everything he says.

Wow. I don't know if I've ever been quoted before. I'll try not to let it go to my head.

Anyway, gr sort of hit it on the head. Most hosts seem to have this fear of looking bad on air. I don't think I've ever heard one of them admit they weren't sure of something, or that maybe a caller had a point that the host had never considered.

In the phlogosphere, we admit all the time we don't know it all. I don't try to be as analytical statistically as A Citizen's Blog, nor as witty as Balls, Sticks and Stuff, nor as comprehensive as Beerleaguer. Knowing and admitting whatever shortcomings I have allows me to focus on what I'm good at without feeling threatened by others' opinions.

Also, as I've said before, there's a lot of accountability on blogs. If I try to call into WIP and claim that a host has flip flopped, he can a) claim I misunderstood knowing there's little chance I recorded the show to call him on it, b) deliberately misunderstand my point and create a straw man out of my argument for him to knock down, or c) simply not take my call. As a caller, there's little I can do to hold the host accountable other than not listen.

However, as a phlogger whatever credibility I have is due to being consistent, admitting my errors, and having my opinions be rooted in fact and not fancy. Any time I try to use the tricks a host uses, I can immediately be called on it because all my opinions are archived and easily retrievable.

Just another area, IMHO, where the internet has lapped more traditional media in terms of generating knowledgeable debate.

It's ironic that Eskin rips Abreu since almost all his criticisms of Abreu were all applied to Eskin's buddy Schmidt in the 70s (with the exception of Abreu's defense). Schmitty wasn't run out of town and was allowed to prove that he was a winner. Hopefully, Gillick has a cool enough head to hold on to one of the greatest players in Phillies history (unless, or course, he gets an offer too good to refuse).

Also, Zone Rating may be a bit unfair to Abreu since it is based on plays made. All the other NL East parks have waaay bigger outfields than CB and thus the opportunity to make more plays. Not in anyway saying he deserved the Gold Glove, just that he may not be the worst fielder either.

PK--

You missed one of the talk show host's options which is:

d) Yell at you, call you a name and then hang up.

It's the old media model: "I have the microphone and everybody else can either put up or shut up."

The give and take of opinion is what makes for interesting, and sometimes enlightening, dialogue, and that's what I get from the blogs. Enlightened talk show hosts understand that, too; the ones with huge but fragile egos don't.

kdon--

Didn't some people rag on Schmidt because he didn't dive into the stands for foul balls or something like that? That's along the same line as the current criticisms of Abreu's defensive play. Anyway, your point is well taken.


People seemed to have missed the biggest reason why WIP is talking about the Phils this spring. Not really about what the Phils have done (except for during the winning streak) but that Sixers and Flyers didn't do anything this spring.

Sixers absolutely folded down the stretch and look they are about to enter another long rebuilding period. For all of the flak Ed Wade took about handing out long contracts, Billy King has handed out some of the worst long-term contracts in the NBA. Billy King has given away money like he was running the US Mint in Philly.

Flyers also looked abysmal this year in the playoffs and were embarassed by an underrated Sabres team. They had alot of injuries but Bobby Clarke made alot of bad signings last year (Rathje, Hatcher, etc).

And that would make him different than any of us how?

Well... he is getting paid for this.

Food for thought . . .

Since the wildcard was introduced in 1996, the NL wildcard has averaged 92.3 wins (lowest was the 2005 Astros with 89 wins; highest was the 1999 Mets with 97 wins).

Maybe I am a bit skeptical, but we are have a pretty good idea of what this Phils team will do. Unless something dramatic happens, this Phils team looks like an 85-87 win team and not good enough for the wildcard.

Marzano is an idiot. On his blog last year, right after the HR derby, Marzano proclaimed Abreu to be the next big star in the NL. Not 3 months later on DNL, Marcus Hayes took 'Marz' to task because Marzano was seriously bashing Abreu and calling him a dog, neglecting the fact that Abreu was basically playing hurt the last 6 weeks or so of the season. I even wrote about this "flip-flop" on the philliesphans phorum the day it happened:

Marcus Hayes and John Marzano going at it on DNL

Abreu is not a great defensive outfielder and his gold glove last year was a joke, but he does have a strong arm and makes most of the plays. I appreciate the "run through the wall" ethic of Rowand and Victorino, but I also appreciate the fact that Abreu, arguably the team's best offensive player, avoids injury and plays everyday.

I hate to be negative as well, but I think Marzano is terrible at his job. He has such an obvious axe to grind with Bobby Abreu it isn't even funny - how else do you explain his declaring, live on the air that Abreu didn't run hard on balls hit in to the gap because he wanted to "pad his doubles stats."

Marzano has also (and I paraphrase) said something along the lines of, "I don't want to hear about statistics and numbers - I WATCH THE GAMES!" Being a crappy backup catcher (Marzano was 1000x the player I every was, for the record) does not make somebody qualified to talk about baseball.

Finally, I thought the Marzano-Fasano tour of South Philly was extremely contrived, awkward, self-serving, and, worst of all, boring to watch.

I think the reason the Phillies are getting a little attention is because they are, if nothing else, an interesting team. Maybe not so much in the way they play the game on the field, but the organizational soap opera, the ongoing sagas of Wade/Bowa/Montgomery/Manuel/Gillick, is pretty fertile territory for the media, not to mention players like Abreu, Rollins, Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, the Cole Hamels phenomenon. The fortunes of the Phillies are ever-changing...I know it's a factor in keeping me coming to this blog site daily.

Eskin probably hates Abreu because he stiffed him on an autograph request. In the spring of '92 I was an intern with the 76ers and there was a rule that media were not allowed to get autgraphs. Eskin would wait until everyone left and pull out a manilla envelope with pictures trying to get autos. Then thos guys that stiffed him he would be down on during his radio stint. What a loser.

I heard that Abreu is suddenly willing to leadoff but Chollie is not interested. Is this true? Has anyone else heard this? BA would be a fantastic leadoff hitter!

I'll take your word that WIP is changing. I used to be a listener, but seveal years ago when they brought back Eskin, it was clear that WIP had no desire to be a serious sports station. That coupled with the loss of Jody Mac made it so there was no compelling reason to tune in whatsoever.

I know Missinelli gets a lot of pople's goats. I never had much of an issue with him. The Morning Show is unlistenable.

For those of us with the 9-5 rotation, WIP presents us with Cataldi and Eskin. For normal thinking adults, that is not a selection that gets 610 on the dial.

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